[microsound] 'that's edutainment'

[David Eng]

I'm going to jump in here and suggest "Noise: The Political Economy of
Music" by Jacques Attali.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Paulo Raposo <sirr at sirr-ecords.com> wrote:

> really perplexing that a politics graduate claims politics as a poor
> way to discuss sound/music.
> and more intriguing that someone that is, we hope, interested in
> politics, cannot find a way within it
> to discuss and think about sound (activity).
> Is sound and music separable from political realm and its ruling
> paradigms?
> what is an author (like Foucault asked)? where does he come from? what
> is made of?
> or  are we in such an oblivious condition that we tend to aestheticize
> sound and music as the fascist attempted to aestheticize politics?
> the great living philosopher Giorgio Agamben wrote:
> "politics is the sphere neither of an end in itself nor of means
> subordinated to an end; rather, it is the sphere of a pure mediality
> without end intended as the field of human action and of human thought"
>
> and speaking of Agamben, for those interested there's great stuff here
> http://v2v.cc/v2v/The_Power_and_the_Glory
> and a lot more easy to find in yotube on paradigm and contemporaneity.
>
> paulo raposo
> http://www.sirr-ecords.com
>
> On Jan 20, 2009, at 8:19 PM, guiver ben wrote:
>
> > i think politics (and im a politics graduate) are often a poor way
> > to discuss sound/music.
> >
> > i like authors / people who are a bit more emotionally literate: i
> > think the alt indie scene (well the more mainstream alt indie
> > scene ) in the 90's was compared by someone to going to church,
> > which i found quite amusing. it was the straight faced ness of it
> > which i think appealed to the joker...sometimes things are so
> > wooden, it bores the shit out of me and kills the life in things.
> >
> > satire might be a good place to start. pisses of all those pofaced
> > types to begin with, and brings in humour, which is surely an under-
> > rated quality in any kind of communication.
> >
> > that said i wouldnt wish to dismiss anyone who wanted to discuss
> > something they found very serious, i just think there's a danger of
> > taking some things too seriously. and russell brands a situationist,
> > apparently...
> >
> > can anyone think of a good article / paper they read on music that
> > made them laugh? i'd be most interested.
> >
> > best
> >
> > ben
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, CraqueMat <craque at craque.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: CraqueMat <craque at craque.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [microsound] 'that's edutainment'
> >> To: microsound at microsound.org
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 8:07 PM
> >> Is there a way to talk about music without using ism's?
> >>
> >> I'm not being an ass, this is genuine curiosity.
> >>
> >> Sometimes I'm bothered by the way I can't be a part
> >> of a conversation
> >> just because I haven't had time to read a book (and I
> >> read a lot).
> >>
> >> Damian Stewart wrote:
> >>> Stephen Hastings-King wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 2. these days, everyone's a situationist.
> >>>
> >>> could you explain this a little? i only came across
> >> the situationists quite
> >>> recently...
> >>>
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