I'm going to jump in here and suggest "Noise: The Political Economy of Music" by Jacques Attali.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Paulo Raposo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sirr@sirr-ecords.com">sirr@sirr-ecords.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">really perplexing that a politics graduate claims politics as a poor<br>
way to discuss sound/music.<br>
and more intriguing that someone that is, we hope, interested in<br>
politics, cannot find a way within it<br>
to discuss and think about sound (activity).<br>
Is sound and music separable from political realm and its ruling<br>
paradigms?<br>
what is an author (like Foucault asked)? where does he come from? what<br>
is made of?<br>
or are we in such an oblivious condition that we tend to aestheticize<br>
sound and music as the fascist attempted to aestheticize politics?<br>
the great living philosopher Giorgio Agamben wrote:<br>
"politics is the sphere neither of an end in itself nor of means<br>
subordinated to an end; rather, it is the sphere of a pure mediality<br>
without end intended as the field of human action and of human thought"<br>
<br>
and speaking of Agamben, for those interested there's great stuff here<br>
<a href="http://v2v.cc/v2v/The_Power_and_the_Glory" target="_blank">http://v2v.cc/v2v/The_Power_and_the_Glory</a><br>
and a lot more easy to find in yotube on paradigm and contemporaneity.<br>
<br>
paulo raposo<br>
<a href="http://www.sirr-ecords.com" target="_blank">http://www.sirr-ecords.com</a><br>
<br>
On Jan 20, 2009, at 8:19 PM, guiver ben wrote:<br>
<br>
> i think politics (and im a politics graduate) are often a poor way<br>
> to discuss sound/music.<br>
><br>
> i like authors / people who are a bit more emotionally literate: i<br>
> think the alt indie scene (well the more mainstream alt indie<br>
> scene ) in the 90's was compared by someone to going to church,<br>
> which i found quite amusing. it was the straight faced ness of it<br>
> which i think appealed to the joker...sometimes things are so<br>
> wooden, it bores the shit out of me and kills the life in things.<br>
><br>
> satire might be a good place to start. pisses of all those pofaced<br>
> types to begin with, and brings in humour, which is surely an under-<br>
> rated quality in any kind of communication.<br>
><br>
> that said i wouldnt wish to dismiss anyone who wanted to discuss<br>
> something they found very serious, i just think there's a danger of<br>
> taking some things too seriously. and russell brands a situationist,<br>
> apparently...<br>
><br>
> can anyone think of a good article / paper they read on music that<br>
> made them laugh? i'd be most interested.<br>
><br>
> best<br>
><br>
> ben<br>
><br>
><br>
> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, CraqueMat <<a href="mailto:craque@craque.net">craque@craque.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> From: CraqueMat <<a href="mailto:craque@craque.net">craque@craque.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] 'that's edutainment'<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:microsound@microsound.org">microsound@microsound.org</a><br>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 8:07 PM<br>
>> Is there a way to talk about music without using ism's?<br>
>><br>
>> I'm not being an ass, this is genuine curiosity.<br>
>><br>
>> Sometimes I'm bothered by the way I can't be a part<br>
>> of a conversation<br>
>> just because I haven't had time to read a book (and I<br>
>> read a lot).<br>
>><br>
>> Damian Stewart wrote:<br>
>>> Stephen Hastings-King wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> 2. these days, everyone's a situationist.<br>
>>><br>
>>> could you explain this a little? i only came across<br>
>> the situationists quite<br>
>>> recently...<br>
>>><br>
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