[microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
Chris Gregory
chris at chrisgregory.com
Thu Oct 6 07:20:04 EDT 2011
Lazy, mean-spirited, self-righteous, vapid, narcissistic moralising.
Bloated, self-important hypocrisy. If I wasn't in a good mood I'd tell
you what I really think.
Chris
On 6 October 2011 21:44, Lorenzo Sutton <lsutton at libero.it> wrote:
> On 06/10/2011 11:42, Laura Mello wrote:
>>
>> Hi peoples,
>>
>> A bit late in the whole discussion, but I read this just 2 days ago:
>>
>> http://www.taz.de/Ausbeutung-in-neuer-Apple-Fabrik/!79254/
>>
>> Unfortunately, only in german, but the title means:
>
> Here in English:
> http://sacom.hk/archives/898
>
> Lorenzo.
>
>> "Exploitation in the new Apple fabric in China" - Islaves produce Iphones.
>>
>> So I wish next breaking news will cheer the death of some big person who
>> dedicated his life to fairness.
>>
>> Best
>> Laura
>>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (Michael Mantra)
>> 2. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (beatthefinalboss at gmail.com)
>> 3. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (norhal el halwagy)
>> 4. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (beatthefinalboss at gmail.com)
>> 5. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (yugen)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 21:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Michael Mantra<michael_mantra at yahoo.com>
>> To: microsound at or8.net, microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hey You All,
>>
>> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a huge
>> fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his brain.
>> The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable marketing
>> skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well. Steve
>> Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my students a
>> One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I
>> have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist.
>> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not need
>> us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then this
>> year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups. Since
>> the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe. And
>> the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed they
>> worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional and
>> the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go back to
>> lurking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:27:22 -0400
>> From: beatthefinalboss at gmail.com
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <CADT=jH2Fodtew8Ayjjc0LkCjXsBm6EGhPnJs-wRbmB6+indMRQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> You have a point, there :)
>>
>> But, quoting shakespeare: "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"
>> :P
>>
>> --Stelpa
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:21 AM, yugen<david at yugen-art.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Granular Synthesis and other Microsound techniques are quite a bit older
>>> than the Macintosh computer :P
>>>
>>>
>>> that's surely right.
>>> but the term microsound was coined by Curtis Roads in his 2001 book, in
>>> full-on apple era ;-)
>>>
>>> ps : i think..........
>>>
>>> d.
>>>
>>> *
>>> http://www.yugen-art.org
>>> twitter : @YugenArt
>>> facebook : http://tinyurl.com/YugenArt
>>> *
>>>
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>> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 00:29:49 -0400
>> From: norhal el halwagy<cntrl.alt.del at gmail.com>
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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>> and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
>> twice. i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write
>> them. back into the background for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey You All,
>>>
>>> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a
>>> huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his
>>> brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable
>>> marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well.
>>> Steve Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my
>>> students a One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both
>>> worlds. I have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP
>>> Evangelist. But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he
>>> did not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more.
>>> And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user
>>> groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or
>>> with Adobe. And the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who
>>> claimed they worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they
>>> told
>>> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional
>>> and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go
>>> back to lurking.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing list
>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:38:54 -0400
>> From: beatthefinalboss at gmail.com
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <CADT=jH2KGESMoB_VK66LcHt57FOGvSJhVKW4G_mfW5XFCp3dsQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> It's fine, lurking is an art form, I would know ;)
>>
>> --Stelpa
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:29 AM, norhal el halwagy
>> <cntrl.alt.del at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
>>> twice.
>>> i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write them. back
>>> into
>>> the background for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey You All,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a
>>>> huge
>>>> fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his brain.
>>>> The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable
>>>> marketing
>>>> skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well.
>>>> Steve
>>>> Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my
>>>> students a
>>>> One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I
>>>> have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP
>>>> Evangelist.
>>>> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not
>>>> need
>>>> us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then
>>>> this
>>>> year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups.
>>>> Since
>>>> the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe.
>>>> And
>>>> the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed they
>>>> worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>>>> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional
>>>> and
>>>> the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go
>>>> back to
>>>> lurking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:44:54 +0200
>> From: yugen<david at yugen-art.org>
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
>> Message-ID:<D98A6CF9-B321-4C40-9F9C-08FE13A51CD4 at yugen-art.org>
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>> hey guys, no problem about that.
>> i have already sorted out everything with Norhal in private. i just
>> can suggest that you motivate your thinking, as you both did in your
>> second emails.
>> that may help better understand your point and enrich the discussion
>> too. ;-)
>>
>> take care,
>>
>> david.
>>
>>
>>> and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
>>> twice. i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write
>>> them. back into the background for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey You All,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be
>>>> a huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer
>>>> rotted his brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had
>>>> some remarkable marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad
>>>> marketing moves as well. Steve Wozniak was the true electronics
>>>> whiz. I always advocated to my students a One Mac and One PC
>>>> philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I have been
>>>> using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist.
>>>> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did
>>>> not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any
>>>> more. And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it
>>>> to the FCP user groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user
>>>> group is going Avid or with Adobe. And the straw that broke the
>>>> camels back was meeting people who claimed they worked directly
>>>> with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>>>> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and
>>>> unprofessional and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get
>>>> off my soap box and go back to lurking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> twitter : @YugenArt
>> facebook : http://tinyurl.com/YugenArt
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