[microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
Lorenzo Sutton
lsutton at libero.it
Thu Oct 6 06:44:28 EDT 2011
On 06/10/2011 11:42, Laura Mello wrote:
> Hi peoples,
>
> A bit late in the whole discussion, but I read this just 2 days ago:
>
> http://www.taz.de/Ausbeutung-in-neuer-Apple-Fabrik/!79254/
>
> Unfortunately, only in german, but the title means:
Here in English:
http://sacom.hk/archives/898
Lorenzo.
> "Exploitation in the new Apple fabric in China" - Islaves produce Iphones.
>
> So I wish next breaking news will cheer the death of some big person who dedicated his life to fairness.
>
> Best
> Laura
>
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> 1. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (Michael Mantra)
> 2. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (beatthefinalboss at gmail.com)
> 3. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (norhal el halwagy)
> 4. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (beatthefinalboss at gmail.com)
> 5. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (yugen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 21:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Michael Mantra<michael_mantra at yahoo.com>
> To: microsound at or8.net, microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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> Hey You All,
>
> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well. Steve Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my students a One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist. But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe. And the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed they worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go back to lurking.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:27:22 -0400
> From: beatthefinalboss at gmail.com
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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> You have a point, there :)
>
> But, quoting shakespeare: "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" :P
>
> --Stelpa
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:21 AM, yugen<david at yugen-art.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Granular Synthesis and other Microsound techniques are quite a bit older
>> than the Macintosh computer :P
>>
>>
>> that's surely right.
>> but the term microsound was coined by Curtis Roads in his 2001 book, in
>> full-on apple era ;-)
>>
>> ps : i think..........
>>
>> d.
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> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 00:29:49 -0400
> From: norhal el halwagy<cntrl.alt.del at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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> and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
> twice. i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write
> them. back into the background for me.
>
>
>
> On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>> Hey You All,
>>
>> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well. Steve Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my students a One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist. But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe. And the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed they worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go back to lurking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael
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> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:38:54 -0400
> From: beatthefinalboss at gmail.com
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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> It's fine, lurking is an art form, I would know ;)
>
> --Stelpa
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:29 AM, norhal el halwagy
> <cntrl.alt.del at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted twice.
>> i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write them. back into
>> the background for me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>>
>>> Hey You All,
>>>
>>> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a huge
>>> fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his brain.
>>> The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable marketing
>>> skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well. Steve
>>> Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my students a
>>> One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I
>>> have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist.
>>> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not need
>>> us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then this
>>> year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups. Since
>>> the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe. And
>>> the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed they
>>> worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>>> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional and
>>> the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go back to
>>> lurking.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
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> From: yugen<david at yugen-art.org>
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> hey guys, no problem about that.
> i have already sorted out everything with Norhal in private. i just
> can suggest that you motivate your thinking, as you both did in your
> second emails.
> that may help better understand your point and enrich the discussion
> too. ;-)
>
> take care,
>
> david.
>
>
>> and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
>> twice. i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write
>> them. back into the background for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>>> Hey You All,
>>>
>>> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be
>>> a huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer
>>> rotted his brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had
>>> some remarkable marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad
>>> marketing moves as well. Steve Wozniak was the true electronics
>>> whiz. I always advocated to my students a One Mac and One PC
>>> philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I have been
>>> using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist.
>>> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did
>>> not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any
>>> more. And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it
>>> to the FCP user groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user
>>> group is going Avid or with Adobe. And the straw that broke the
>>> camels back was meeting people who claimed they worked directly
>>> with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>>> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and
>>> unprofessional and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get
>>> off my soap box and go back to lurking.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing list
>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
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