[microsound] Ang: microsound Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15

Tue Feb 15 07:12:22 EST 2011

You mean the Princeton one?
Yesterday he gave a lecture in Utrecht, NL, which consisted of showing that specific video on Vimeo (takes 1h07m) and playing cheesy keyboard songs along with it...

On 10 feb 2011, at 17:18, Kim Frøsnapper wrote:

> Probably the most coherent lecture there is with him - others tend to be more performance minded. But for once his thoughts seem quite clear; bring back utopia in music. Do this by making "music" for a yet to be seen intelligence... or something like that.
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> Den tor, 10 feb. 2011 05:10 CET skrev microsound-request at or8.net:
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>>  1. Re: radical computer music (David Powers)
>>  2. Re: radical computer music (Jeffrey Melton)
>>  3. Re: radical computer music (Laurens van der Wee)
>>  4. Re: radical computer music (Phillip Thomas)
>>  5. Re: twitter (Malte Steiner)
>>  6. Re: radical computer music (Boris Klompus)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:34:20 -0600
>> From: David Powers <cyborgk at gmail.com>
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
>> Message-ID:
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>> I read the Wikipedia article about "Radical Computer Music" first...
>> and it sounded like it could be interesting.
>> 
>> However, after watching the video, I was completely confused about
>> what it had to do with music, computers, or indeed anything
>> "radical"... The guy just seems like some second rate
>> conceptual/performance artist, whose ideas look better on paper then
>> they do when you actually see or hear the work.
>> 
>> I also couldn't really get any kind of coherent idea of what "Radical
>> Computer Music" was supposed to be about or why it is needed... no
>> doubt there's plenty of room to critique academic computer music, but
>> this video just left me completely bewildered as to what was going on.
>> 
>> ~David
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM, flemming lyst <flemminglyst at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> let's read your thoughts about this:
>>> 
>>> http://vimeo.com/19593647
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:19:29 -0500
>> From: Jeffrey Melton <jeffreymelton at gmail.com>
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
>> Message-ID:
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>> I don't get it, myself. The Wikipedia article reads like a cross between
>> Hakim Bey, KLF and Psychick TV, but the video feels for the most part like a
>> mockumentary. Is it a stunt, like a Danish Die Antwoord? I dunno.
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:34 PM, David Powers <cyborgk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I read the Wikipedia article about "Radical Computer Music" first...
>>> and it sounded like it could be interesting.
>>> 
>>> However, after watching the video, I was completely confused about
>>> what it had to do with music, computers, or indeed anything
>>> "radical"... The guy just seems like some second rate
>>> conceptual/performance artist, whose ideas look better on paper then
>>> they do when you actually see or hear the work.
>>> 
>>> I also couldn't really get any kind of coherent idea of what "Radical
>>> Computer Music" was supposed to be about or why it is needed... no
>>> doubt there's plenty of room to critique academic computer music, but
>>> this video just left me completely bewildered as to what was going on.
>>> 
>>> ~David
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM, flemming lyst <flemminglyst at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> let's read your thoughts about this:
>>>> 
>>>> http://vimeo.com/19593647
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>> 
>> -- 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:31:58 +0200
>> From: Laurens van der Wee <l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
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>> snappidagg! #kimcascone
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>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Jeffrey Melton <jeffreymelton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't get it, myself. The Wikipedia article reads like a cross between
>>> Hakim Bey, KLF and Psychick TV, but the video feels for the most part like a
>>> mockumentary. Is it a stunt, like a Danish Die Antwoord? I dunno.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:34 PM, David Powers <cyborgk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I read the Wikipedia article about "Radical Computer Music" first...
>>>> and it sounded like it could be interesting.
>>>> 
>>>> However, after watching the video, I was completely confused about
>>>> what it had to do with music, computers, or indeed anything
>>>> "radical"... The guy just seems like some second rate
>>>> conceptual/performance artist, whose ideas look better on paper then
>>>> they do when you actually see or hear the work.
>>>> 
>>>> I also couldn't really get any kind of coherent idea of what "Radical
>>>> Computer Music" was supposed to be about or why it is needed... no
>>>> doubt there's plenty of room to critique academic computer music, but
>>>> this video just left me completely bewildered as to what was going on.
>>>> 
>>>> ~David
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM, flemming lyst <flemminglyst at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> let's read your thoughts about this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://vimeo.com/19593647
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:41:04 +0000
>> From: Phillip Thomas <phillipthomas at hotmail.com>
>> To: <microsound at microsound.org>
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
>> Message-ID: <SNT128-W28E83C5FEC5BB0A6AA212EABED0 at phx.gbl>
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>> 
>> I guess to describe yourself as 'radical' to begin with seems presumptuous...
>> I did see this chap at the Brainwashed festival in Boston a few years ago and he was engaging if a bit bonkers!
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:19:29 -0500
>> From: jeffreymelton at gmail.com
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
>> 
>> I don't get it, myself. The Wikipedia article reads like a cross between Hakim Bey, KLF and Psychick TV, but the video feels for the most part like a mockumentary. Is it a stunt, like a Danish Die Antwoord? I dunno.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:34 PM, David Powers <cyborgk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I read the Wikipedia article about "Radical Computer Music" first...
>> 
>> and it sounded like it could be interesting.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, after watching the video, I was completely confused about
>> 
>> what it had to do with music, computers, or indeed anything
>> 
>> "radical"... The guy just seems like some second rate
>> 
>> conceptual/performance artist, whose ideas look better on paper then
>> 
>> they do when you actually see or hear the work.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I also couldn't really get any kind of coherent idea of what "Radical
>> 
>> Computer Music" was supposed to be about or why it is needed... no
>> 
>> doubt there's plenty of room to critique academic computer music, but
>> 
>> this video just left me completely bewildered as to what was going on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ~David
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM, flemming lyst <flemminglyst at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> let's read your thoughts about this:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> http://vimeo.com/19593647
>> 
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>> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:46:36 +0100
>> From: Malte Steiner <steiner at block4.com>
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>> @herrsteiner
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>> Cheers,
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>> Malte
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:09:14 -0500
>> From: Boris Klompus <boris.klompus at gmail.com>
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
>> Message-ID:
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>> I saw Goodiepal last year in New York. These are a few quotes of his I
>> jotted down:
>> 
>> "media art has a sell point of it holds a hell of a lot of technology."
>> 
>> [him giving an example of a well received piece of media art] "These birds
>> here, flying, they aren't birds. They're connected to the stock market
>> through the *web*. And them fighting here, that's the economic collapse in
>> Mogadishu."
>> 
>> [on documentation] "the point is to notate what happens between musical
>> objects when not in the music."
>> 
>> Later in his talk, and I don't think he directly connected it with the
>> previous quote, but he showed off a book he made "to challenge the
>> composer": it  was a book of mostly of blank white pages.
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