[microsound] Ang: microsound Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15

Thu Feb 10 10:18:58 EST 2011

Probably the most coherent lecture there is with him - others tend to be more performance minded. But for once his thoughts seem quite clear; bring back utopia in music. Do this by making "music" for a yet to be seen intelligence... or something like that.

Den tor, 10 feb. 2011 05:10 CET skrev microsound-request at or8.net:

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>   1. Re: radical computer music (David Powers)
>   2. Re: radical computer music (Jeffrey Melton)
>   3. Re: radical computer music (Laurens van der Wee)
>   4. Re: radical computer music (Phillip Thomas)
>   5. Re: twitter (Malte Steiner)
>   6. Re: radical computer music (Boris Klompus)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:34:20 -0600
>From: David Powers <cyborgk at gmail.com>
>To: microsound at microsound.org
>Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
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>I read the Wikipedia article about "Radical Computer Music" first...
>and it sounded like it could be interesting.
>
>However, after watching the video, I was completely confused about
>what it had to do with music, computers, or indeed anything
>"radical"... The guy just seems like some second rate
>conceptual/performance artist, whose ideas look better on paper then
>they do when you actually see or hear the work.
>
>I also couldn't really get any kind of coherent idea of what "Radical
>Computer Music" was supposed to be about or why it is needed... no
>doubt there's plenty of room to critique academic computer music, but
>this video just left me completely bewildered as to what was going on.
>
>~David
>
>On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM, flemming lyst <flemminglyst at gmail.com> wrote:
>> let's read your thoughts about this:
>>
>> http://vimeo.com/19593647
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>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:19:29 -0500
>From: Jeffrey Melton <jeffreymelton at gmail.com>
>To: microsound at microsound.org
>Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
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>I don't get it, myself. The Wikipedia article reads like a cross between
>Hakim Bey, KLF and Psychick TV, but the video feels for the most part like a
>mockumentary. Is it a stunt, like a Danish Die Antwoord? I dunno.
>
>On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:34 PM, David Powers <cyborgk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I read the Wikipedia article about "Radical Computer Music" first...
>> and it sounded like it could be interesting.
>>
>> However, after watching the video, I was completely confused about
>> what it had to do with music, computers, or indeed anything
>> "radical"... The guy just seems like some second rate
>> conceptual/performance artist, whose ideas look better on paper then
>> they do when you actually see or hear the work.
>>
>> I also couldn't really get any kind of coherent idea of what "Radical
>> Computer Music" was supposed to be about or why it is needed... no
>> doubt there's plenty of room to critique academic computer music, but
>> this video just left me completely bewildered as to what was going on.
>>
>> ~David
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM, flemming lyst <flemminglyst at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > let's read your thoughts about this:
>> >
>> > http://vimeo.com/19593647
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:31:58 +0200
>From: Laurens van der Wee <l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>To: microsound at microsound.org
>Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
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>snappidagg! #kimcascone
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>On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Jeffrey Melton <jeffreymelton at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't get it, myself. The Wikipedia article reads like a cross between
>> Hakim Bey, KLF and Psychick TV, but the video feels for the most part like a
>> mockumentary. Is it a stunt, like a Danish Die Antwoord? I dunno.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:34 PM, David Powers <cyborgk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I read the Wikipedia article about "Radical Computer Music" first...
>>> and it sounded like it could be interesting.
>>>
>>> However, after watching the video, I was completely confused about
>>> what it had to do with music, computers, or indeed anything
>>> "radical"... The guy just seems like some second rate
>>> conceptual/performance artist, whose ideas look better on paper then
>>> they do when you actually see or hear the work.
>>>
>>> I also couldn't really get any kind of coherent idea of what "Radical
>>> Computer Music" was supposed to be about or why it is needed... no
>>> doubt there's plenty of room to critique academic computer music, but
>>> this video just left me completely bewildered as to what was going on.
>>>
>>> ~David
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM, flemming lyst <flemminglyst at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > let's read your thoughts about this:
>>> >
>>> > http://vimeo.com/19593647
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > microsound mailing list
>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
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>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing list
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>>
>>
>> --
>> jeffrey melton | p.o.box 10231 | fort wayne, IN | 46851-0231 | USA
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>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:41:04 +0000
>From: Phillip Thomas <phillipthomas at hotmail.com>
>To: <microsound at microsound.org>
>Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
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>I guess to describe yourself as 'radical' to begin with seems presumptuous...
>I did see this chap at the Brainwashed festival in Boston a few years ago and he was engaging if a bit bonkers!
>
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:19:29 -0500
>From: jeffreymelton at gmail.com
>To: microsound at microsound.org
>Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
>
>I don't get it, myself. The Wikipedia article reads like a cross between Hakim Bey, KLF and Psychick TV, but the video feels for the most part like a mockumentary. Is it a stunt, like a Danish Die Antwoord? I dunno.
>
>
>On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:34 PM, David Powers <cyborgk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I read the Wikipedia article about "Radical Computer Music" first...
>
>and it sounded like it could be interesting.
>
>
>
>However, after watching the video, I was completely confused about
>
>what it had to do with music, computers, or indeed anything
>
>"radical"... The guy just seems like some second rate
>
>conceptual/performance artist, whose ideas look better on paper then
>
>they do when you actually see or hear the work.
>
>
>
>I also couldn't really get any kind of coherent idea of what "Radical
>
>Computer Music" was supposed to be about or why it is needed... no
>
>doubt there's plenty of room to critique academic computer music, but
>
>this video just left me completely bewildered as to what was going on.
>
>
>
>~David
>
>
>
>On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM, flemming lyst <flemminglyst at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> let's read your thoughts about this:
>
>>
>
>> http://vimeo.com/19593647
>
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>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:46:36 +0100
>From: Malte Steiner <steiner at block4.com>
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>Cheers,
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>Malte
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>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:09:14 -0500
>From: Boris Klompus <boris.klompus at gmail.com>
>To: microsound at microsound.org
>Subject: Re: [microsound] radical computer music
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>I saw Goodiepal last year in New York. These are a few quotes of his I
>jotted down:
>
>"media art has a sell point of it holds a hell of a lot of technology."
>
>[him giving an example of a well received piece of media art] "These birds
>here, flying, they aren't birds. They're connected to the stock market
>through the *web*. And them fighting here, that's the economic collapse in
>Mogadishu."
>
>[on documentation] "the point is to notate what happens between musical
>objects when not in the music."
>
>Later in his talk, and I don't think he directly connected it with the
>previous quote, but he showed off a book he made "to challenge the
>composer": it  was a book of mostly of blank white pages.
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