[microsound] mcgill-mailing list

[Paulo Mouat]

I was an engaged participant on a number of mailing lists when antiorp
joined (mainly emusic-l) and accompanied the phenomenon from beginning to
end. I always found antiorp to be a civil, even if sometimes abrasive when
ruffled, netizen. The cryptic posts never bothered me and were in fact very
interesting in multiple levels. I never understood or agreed with the purity
of communication advocated by some of the netiquette/english language
zealots, but they got what they wanted in the end. When antiorp morphed into
NN some of the "spirit" was lost, primarily because it clearly became a
collective with a more diffuse voice. I still prize the copies of the two
A9FF releases I helped finance.

//p
http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:22 AM, bryan garcia <brymoxine at yahoo.com> wrote:

> i've always loved this story of nezvenova.
>
> her/he/their websites were really incredible - and the work was often
> equally creative.
>
> is this stuff preserved somewhere ?
>
> was anyone around for all the drama ?   i'de love to hear personal
> accounts.
>
> anyone know what happened to her/him/them ?
>
> maybe the mystery is better left obscured.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 5/27/10, Trond Lossius <trond.lossius at bek.no>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Trond Lossius <trond.lossius at bek.no>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 6:52 AM
>
>
> > who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which
> was initiated by christopher murtagh?
>
>
> It was run on a McGill server, and administered by Chris Murtagh. Following
> controversies related to antiorp/Netochka Nezvanova he/she/it was voted out
> of the list ca. 1999. Later on Cycling'74 set up a new list replacing the
> first one as an attempt at a compromise. On the C74 list subscribers could
> choose to ignore and not receive posts from select subscribers. Following
> threats from NN towards C74 for copyright infringements in Jitter versus
> Nato+0.55 NN was again banned from the list in 2001. BEK then opened the 55
> mailing list as an alternative channel, that would remain uncensored. This
> became a productive scene for discussions in particular related to NN,
> Nato.0+55 and real time video processing for a period until Jitter, in
> particular with the switch from OS9 to OSX, evolved as the preferred
> solution for video processing in the Max community.
>
> The 55 list remains live, but have been void of traffic for several years
> now. Archives can be found at:
>
> https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/55
>
> When C74 turned from integrated forum and mailing list to a forum only
> solution, BEK was again asked from various holds to set up an alternative
> Max mailing list. This mailing list is fairly low traffic, but I find it
> high quality in terms of replies to questions, often from long-term and
> seasoned Max users (aka the dinosaurs):
>
> https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/max
>
> If you want to get in touch with Chris directly, you might get hold of him
> here:
>
> http://www.ombu.ca/en/christopher/
>
> I don't know if the archive of the list is still available anywhere, but I
> have local copies of the mails from my signing up sometime in 1998 until the
> end of it.
>
> Salon.com did a quite thorough feature on NN in 2002:
>
> http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2002/03/01/netochka
>
>
> Best,
> Trond
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