[microsound] microsound Digest, Vol 1, Issue 8

David Powers cyborgk at gmail.com
Tue Jan 20 15:33:44 EST 2009


Are you sure you are playing the soundfile 'unwarped' and raw? Live
tends to try and warp files if you just drop them in, which certainly
will add artifacts to the sound.

Anyway the granular synth engine is in some ways the point, it's those
very artifacts that make it an interesting tool for more experimental
or microsound works. You can do an insane amount of repitching and
stretching.

I like to use Live with Pure Data, as a VST host mostly, sometimes
triggering little audio files too. This works nice for generative
stuff where I'm not doing raw DSP but just using various synthesizers
and fx (raw DSP isn't my forte)...

~David

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Marinos Koutsomichalis
<marinos at agxivatein.com> wrote:
> I was wandering,
>
> what about sound ??
>
> The whole convertation regarding Live focuses on certain features and
> capabilities of this DAW in comparison with others available. Ok, but
> what about its sound??
>
> Just try this: take a soundfile open in with logic, or with DP or
> with .. and with Live and just play it back... Do you hear the same
> thing ?? I don' t !
>
> I was curious of what do you think about Live' s engine... Because I
> don' t think that (at least up to version 7) it is as good as (let' s
> see) Logic, DP, cubase, Nuedo, or Wavelab to name a few.... Let aside
> version 6 ....... Well I have to admit that it is not that bad in
> version 7 as in version 6, but when you just want to do some basic
> collages or mixing or sth that can easily be done with any of the
> aforementioned DAWs, why stick with Live since its sound-engine is
> (at least to my ears) inferior ??
>
> On 20 Ιαν 2009, at 9:02 ΜΜ, Neil Clopton wrote:
>
>> Graham Miller wrote:
>> >
>> > there's really no point to using live if
>> > you are going to constrain yourself to the arrange window only.
>> might as
>> > well use logic, etc.  the whole (revolutionary) point of ableton
>> is the
>> > session view, imho.
>>
>>
>> Session view is a huge distinguishing feature, but I wouldn't say
>> there is no point to the rest of Live.  I use warping from the
>> arrangement view all the time.  SFAIK there isn't anything quite
>> like warp markers in other software.
>>
>> -Neil
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