<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">not really, i'm fairly often in the geekery department myself, doesn't bother me, it's not about virtuoisity here.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>that's not what i meant actually. it's more about added value. if i see a performance i somehow want to see that the performers thought about things. in this case it looks more like they're doing the same thing, but with a different interface, without taking advantage of the new device. or they do not succeed in making a point, at least not for me.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>it's more about marketing and how you position yourself.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>got that now. and i agree.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>this act was seemingly trying to say "I don't only play violin, I'll also play on my shiny iPhone. Look at how unconventional and innovative I am. Furthermore I'm stylish and design-sensitive"</div><div>ok I'm exaggerating, but that's what it does to me. </div><div>you know now in restaurants here they start to state the brand of oven your food is cooked in.</div><div>I don't give a rat's ass, just make it tasty!</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>that must be a joke. right?</div><div><br></div><div>laurens.</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><br><div><div>On 13 Apr 2011, at 18:38, Laurens van der Wee wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type="cite">Now, how about this: <a href="http://www.ataut.net/site/Adam-Atau-4-Hands-iPhone">http://www.ataut.net/site/Adam-Atau-4-Hands-iPhone</a>. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing, but I wonder if in this case the iPhone (or mobile or smartphone or ...) enables the performers to actually be expressive or gestural or whatever word you wanna use for it. Watching the video, I couldn't detach from the feeling that I was still looking at a bunch of geeks (nothing wrong with that) struggling with their technology (also fine, but it seems they're pretending a bit more), rather than people expressing themselves in a musical performance.</div><div><br></div><div>I know this statement is a bit off-subject, however, I can imagine this comes close to isjtar's doubts, but that's something I do not know for sure of course.</div><div><br></div><div>laurens.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div><div>./MiS<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:52 AM, isjtar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:list@isjtar.org">list@isjtar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>I'm a Mac user and an Apple customer, but supposedly critical minded people who go flaunting Apple products like that, i dunno, it's just wrong...</div>
<div>if it would be any other megacorporation, people would frown upon it, but Apple gets a free pass in some circles and even gets used to obtain an image of "state of the art" or "cutting edge".</div>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On 13 Apr 2011, at 14:49, Michal Seta wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:27 AM, isjtar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:list@isjtar.org" target="_blank">list@isjtar.org</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div>that said, was at a festival for contemporary music and in the program was one person who put as instruments: violin, iPhone.</div><div>I felt dirty after reading that.</div><div>
<div></div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>that's interesting! How dirty did you feel. And why?</div><div><br></div><div>./MiS </div></div>
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