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thanks a lot... for what BEK stands for?<br><br>steff<br><br>> From: trond.lossius@bek.no<br>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:52:32 +0200<br>> To: microsound@microsound.org<br>> Subject: Re: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list<br>> <br>> > who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which was initiated by christopher murtagh?<br>> <br>> <br>> It was run on a McGill server, and administered by Chris Murtagh. Following controversies related to antiorp/Netochka Nezvanova he/she/it was voted out of the list ca. 1999. Later on Cycling'74 set up a new list replacing the first one as an attempt at a compromise. On the C74 list subscribers could choose to ignore and not receive posts from select subscribers. Following threats from NN towards C74 for copyright infringements in Jitter versus Nato+0.55 NN was again banned from the list in 2001. BEK then opened the 55 mailing list as an alternative channel, that would remain uncensored. This became a productive scene for discussions in particular related to NN, Nato.0+55 and real time video processing for a period until Jitter, in particular with the switch from OS9 to OSX, evolved as the preferred solution for video processing in the Max community.<br>> <br>> The 55 list remains live, but have been void of traffic for several years now. Archives can be found at:<br>> <br>> https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/55<br>> <br>> When C74 turned from integrated forum and mailing list to a forum only solution, BEK was again asked from various holds to set up an alternative Max mailing list. This mailing list is fairly low traffic, but I find it high quality in terms of replies to questions, often from long-term and seasoned Max users (aka the dinosaurs):<br>> <br>> https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/max<br>> <br>> If you want to get in touch with Chris directly, you might get hold of him here:<br>> <br>> http://www.ombu.ca/en/christopher/<br>> <br>> I don't know if the archive of the list is still available anywhere, but I have local copies of the mails from my signing up sometime in 1998 until the end of it.<br>> <br>> Salon.com did a quite thorough feature on NN in 2002:<br>> <br>> http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2002/03/01/netochka<br>> <br>> <br>> Best,<br>> Trond<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> microsound mailing list<br>> microsound@microsound.org<br>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound<br>                                            <br /><hr />Sicher und anonym surfen? <a href='http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1005IE8' target='_new'>Der Internet Explorer 8 macht es möglich!</a></body>
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