From prolepsis at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 00:08:19 2016
From: prolepsis at gmail.com (Al Matthews)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 05:08:19 +0000
Subject: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
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Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm barely
paying my own bill.

But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody else
got a spare cycle this week?

https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.

Al

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup in
> the next day or so.
>
> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud service/space
> to
> > donate?
> > //p
> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere here,
> but
> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
> collaborative
> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login info on
> the
> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
> >> Cheers,
> >> l.
> >>
> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has tweaked
> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of scripts.
> They
> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever they took
> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the problem
> is
> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am still
> >> hopeful it is not the case.
> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
> >> //p
> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <marcus at wrango.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi!
> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to large for
> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
> >>> All the best
> >>> /marcus.
> >>>
> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still actively
> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
> >>> //p
> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> All,
> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to apply
> the
> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site. This is
> causing
> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am working with
> them
> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note to
> everyone
> >>>> once this is sorted out.
> >>>> //p
> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so we need
> >>>>> to extend the deadline
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until Paulo has
> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
> >>>>>
> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload or see
> >>>>> the files on the project page
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> microsound mailing list
> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> microsound mailing list
> >>> microsound at microsound.org
> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------
> >>> Marcus Wrang?
> >>> marcus at wrango.com
> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
> >>> ---------------------------------------------
> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
> >>> music, art and research.
> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
> >>> ---------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> microsound mailing list
> >> microsound at microsound.org
> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >>
> >> laurens.
> >> ____
> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> microsound mailing list
> >> microsound at microsound.org
> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
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From prolepsis at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 06:32:13 2016
From: prolepsis at gmail.com (Al Matthews)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:32:13 +0000
Subject: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
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Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.

I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need to
be there in 20-40 .. years (?)

Al

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:

> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>
> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>
> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it strikes
> me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
> unappreciated.
>
> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>
> By ease I mean strengthen.
>
> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position to
> assist.
>
> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine, the
> list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the .txt
> archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>
> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>
> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>
> Al
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm barely
>> paying my own bill.
>>
>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>
>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup in
>>> the next day or so.
>>>
>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>> service/space to
>>> > donate?
>>> > //p
>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>> here, but
>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>> collaborative
>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login info
>>> on the
>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> l.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>> tweaked
>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>> scripts. They
>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever they
>>> took
>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>> problem is
>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>> still
>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>> >> //p
>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <marcus at wrango.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi!
>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to large
>>> for
>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>> >>> All the best
>>> >>> /marcus.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still actively
>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>> >>> //p
>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> All,
>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to apply
>>> the
>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site. This
>>> is causing
>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am working
>>> with them
>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note to
>>> everyone
>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>> >>>> //p
>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com
>>> >
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so we
>>> need
>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until Paulo
>>> has
>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload or
>>> see
>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>> >>
>>> >> laurens.
>>> >> ____
>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > microsound mailing list
>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>> >
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing list
>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>
>> --
>
> Al Matthews
>
> Appressorium
> http://www.appressorium.com
>
>
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From cyborgk at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 06:45:50 2016
From: cyborgk at gmail.com (David A. Powers)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:45:50 +0000
Subject: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
In-Reply-To: <CALEf-YnN-ugvtZPZRcxzBdq4ng_=D1mWQxk_MvKhcmw9fXGSQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=nvPpcHWvWmNxwxGzd1c=qo5Kjz-S257jvDqZ_@mail.gmail.com>
 <4214DC15-A571-4992-A31D-3643AB24BE59@wrango.com>
 <AANLkTikTDNKpM_=WfGMd+YGKHmpekVDz3KCE450c8LTq@mail.gmail.com>
 <CD11BC08-7BA6-4B5A-8165-C6083EEAB3C2@gmail.com>
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 <CALEf-Yn=sOGJ87eiL+XdhNvyFwp6tCp_RGnCBt45hTk52w4G+w@mail.gmail.com>
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I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.

Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?

It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability to
create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does not
meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.

~David

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
> we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>
> I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need to
> be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>
> Al
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>>
>> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>>
>> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it strikes
>> me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
>> unappreciated.
>>
>> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
>> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>>
>> By ease I mean strengthen.
>>
>> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position to
>> assist.
>>
>> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine, the
>> list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the .txt
>> archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>>
>> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>>
>> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>>
>> Al
>>
>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm barely
>>> paying my own bill.
>>>
>>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>>
>>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup in
>>>> the next day or so.
>>>>
>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>>> service/space to
>>>> > donate?
>>>> > //p
>>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>>> here, but
>>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>>> collaborative
>>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login info
>>>> on the
>>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>> >> l.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>>> tweaked
>>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>>> scripts. They
>>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever they
>>>> took
>>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>>> problem is
>>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>>> still
>>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>>> >> //p
>>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <marcus at wrango.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hi!
>>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to large
>>>> for
>>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>>> >>> All the best
>>>> >>> /marcus.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still actively
>>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>>> >>> //p
>>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> All,
>>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to
>>>> apply the
>>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site. This
>>>> is causing
>>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am working
>>>> with them
>>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note to
>>>> everyone
>>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>>> >>>> //p
>>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <
>>>> kim at anechoicmedia.com>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so we
>>>> need
>>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until Paulo
>>>> has
>>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload or
>>>> see
>>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>> >>
>>>> >> laurens.
>>>> >> ____
>>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > microsound mailing list
>>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Al Matthews
>>
>> Appressorium
>> http://www.appressorium.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
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From eva at moolab.net  Wed Feb 10 07:29:15 2016
From: eva at moolab.net (eva sjuve)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:29:15 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
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I second that!
-Eva

On 2/10/16 12:45 PM, David A. Powers wrote:
> I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
>
> Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
>
> It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our 
> ability to create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social 
> media does not meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate 
> with like minded musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing 
> something, it's like the battle for the internet is already over, and 
> artists have lost.
>
> ~David
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com 
> <mailto:prolepsis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since
>     surely we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>
>     I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2)
>     need to be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>
>     Al
>
>
>     On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com
>     <mailto:info at appressorium.com>> wrote:
>
>         Sorry, tweaking tone.
>
>         .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much
>         .microsound-announce.
>
>         I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and
>         it strikes me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both
>         instrumental and unappreciated.
>
>         Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease
>         the infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>
>         By ease I mean strengthen.
>
>         If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in
>         position to assist.
>
>         I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to
>         imagine, the list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your
>         contributions, the .txt archive, and heated exchanges long
>         before I clued in.
>
>         As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>
>         Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>
>         Al
>
>
>         On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com
>         <mailto:prolepsis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy
>             please, I'm barely paying my own bill.
>
>             But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but,
>             no. Anybody else got a spare cycle this week?
>
>             https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>             https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>
>             Al
>
>             https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>
>             On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com
>             <mailto:htheriault at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of
>                 bandwidth to
>                 spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads.
>                 My schedule is a
>                 bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to
>                 get one setup in
>                 the next day or so.
>
>                 http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>
>                 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat
>                 <paulo.mouat at gmail.com <mailto:paulo.mouat at gmail.com>>
>                 wrote:
>                 > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a
>                 cloud service/space to
>                 > donate?
>                 > //p
>                 > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>                 >
>                 > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee
>                 <l.vanderwee at gmail.com <mailto:l.vanderwee at gmail.com>>
>                 > wrote:
>                 >>
>                 >> Hi,
>                 >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should
>                 not interfere here, but
>                 >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can
>                 make that collaborative
>                 >> and let others share files on the same page (or you
>                 share login info on the
>                 >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very
>                 one server issue?
>                 >> Cheers,
>                 >> l.
>                 >>
>                 >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>                 >>
>                 >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the
>                 hosting company has tweaked
>                 >> some configuration files and it broke the normal
>                 processing of scripts. They
>                 >> are currently investigating the issue.
>                 Unfortunately, whenever they took
>                 >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually
>                 meant that the problem is
>                 >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to
>                 mind), but I am still
>                 >> hopeful it is not the case.
>                 >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>                 >> //p
>                 >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>                 >>
>                 >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang?
>                 <marcus at wrango.com <mailto:marcus at wrango.com>> wrote:
>                 >>>
>                 >>> Hi!
>                 >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>                 >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it
>                 is also to large for
>                 >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>                 >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>                 >>> All the best
>                 >>> /marcus.
>                 >>>
>                 >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>                 >>>
>                 >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company
>                 is still actively
>                 >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files
>                 is still broken.
>                 >>> //p
>                 >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>                 >>>
>                 >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat
>                 <paulo.mouat at gmail.com <mailto:paulo.mouat at gmail.com>>
>                 >>> wrote:
>                 >>>>
>                 >>>> All,
>                 >>>> It turns out that the hosting company
>                 unilaterally decided to apply the
>                 >>>> default limits for file uploads on the
>                 microsound.org <http://microsound.org> site. This is
>                 causing
>                 >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently
>                 fail. I am working with them
>                 >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I
>                 will send a note to everyone
>                 >>>> once this is sorted out.
>                 >>>> //p
>                 >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>                 >>>>
>                 >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone
>                 <kim at anechoicmedia.com <mailto:kim at anechoicmedia.com>>
>                 >>>> wrote:
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with
>                 the server so we need
>                 >>>>> to extend the deadline
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to
>                 wait until Paulo has
>                 >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still
>                 can't upload or see
>                 >>>>> the files on the project page
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>> _______________________________________________
>                 >>>>> microsound mailing list
>                 >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>                 <mailto:microsound at microsound.org>
>                 >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>                 >>>>>
>                 >>>>
>                 >>>
>                 >>> _______________________________________________
>                 >>> microsound mailing list
>                 >>> microsound at microsound.org
>                 <mailto:microsound at microsound.org>
>                 >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>                 >>>
>                 >>> ---------------------------------------------
>                 >>> Marcus Wrang?
>                 >>> marcus at wrango.com <mailto:marcus at wrango.com>
>                 >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>                 >>> ---------------------------------------------
>                 >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>                 >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>                 >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>                 >>> music, art and research.
>                 >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>                 >>> ---------------------------------------------
>                 >>>
>                 >>>
>                 >>
>                 >> _______________________________________________
>                 >> microsound mailing list
>                 >> microsound at microsound.org
>                 <mailto:microsound at microsound.org>
>                 >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>                 >>
>                 >> laurens.
>                 >> ____
>                 >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>                 >> e: l.vanderwee at gmail.com <mailto:l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>                 >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>                 <http://www.laurensvanderwee.nl>
>                 >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>                 >>
>                 >> _______________________________________________
>                 >> microsound mailing list
>                 >> microsound at microsound.org
>                 <mailto:microsound at microsound.org>
>                 >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>                 >>
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > _______________________________________________
>                 > microsound mailing list
>                 > microsound at microsound.org
>                 <mailto:microsound at microsound.org>
>                 > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>                 >
>                 >
>                 _______________________________________________
>                 microsound mailing list
>                 microsound at microsound.org
>                 <mailto:microsound at microsound.org>
>                 http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>         -- 
>
>         Al Matthews
>
>         Appressorium
>         http://www.appressorium.com
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     microsound mailing list
>     microsound at microsound.org <mailto:microsound at microsound.org>
>     http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
>
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From prolepsis at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 07:37:14 2016
From: prolepsis at gmail.com (Al Matthews)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:37:14 +0000
Subject: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
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Second second! All in favor?

Hi.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:30 eva sjuve <eva at moolab.net> wrote:

> I second that!
>
> -Eva
>
>
> On 2/10/16 12:45 PM, David A. Powers wrote:
>
> I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
>
> Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
>
> It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability
> to create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does
> not meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
> musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
> for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
>
> ~David
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
>> we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>>
>> I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need to
>> be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>>
>> Al
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>>>
>>> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>>>
>>> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it strikes
>>> me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
>>> unappreciated.
>>>
>>> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
>>> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>>>
>>> By ease I mean strengthen.
>>>
>>> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position
>>> to assist.
>>>
>>> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine, the
>>> list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the .txt
>>> archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>>>
>>> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>>>
>>> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm
>>>> barely paying my own bill.
>>>>
>>>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>>>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>>>
>>>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>>>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup in
>>>>> the next day or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>>>> service/space to
>>>>> > donate?
>>>>> > //p
>>>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>>>> here, but
>>>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>>>> collaborative
>>>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login
>>>>> info on the
>>>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>> >> l.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>>>> tweaked
>>>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>>>> scripts. They
>>>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever they
>>>>> took
>>>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>>>> problem is
>>>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>>>> still
>>>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>>>> >> //p
>>>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <marcus at wrango.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hi!
>>>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to
>>>>> large for
>>>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>>>> >>> All the best
>>>>> >>> /marcus.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still
>>>>> actively
>>>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>>>> >>> //p
>>>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <
>>>>> paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> All,
>>>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to
>>>>> apply the
>>>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site. This
>>>>> is causing
>>>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am working
>>>>> with them
>>>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note
>>>>> to everyone
>>>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>>>> >>>> //p
>>>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <
>>>>> kim at anechoicmedia.com>
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so we
>>>>> need
>>>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until
>>>>> Paulo has
>>>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload or
>>>>> see
>>>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> laurens.
>>>>> >> ____
>>>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > microsound mailing list
>>>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Al Matthews
>>>
>>> Appressorium
>>> http://www.appressorium.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
>
>
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From prolepsis at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 07:37:14 2016
From: prolepsis at gmail.com (Al Matthews)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:37:14 +0000
Subject: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
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Second second! All in favor?

Hi.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:30 eva sjuve <eva at moolab.net> wrote:

> I second that!
>
> -Eva
>
>
> On 2/10/16 12:45 PM, David A. Powers wrote:
>
> I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
>
> Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
>
> It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability
> to create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does
> not meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
> musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
> for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
>
> ~David
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
>> we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>>
>> I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need to
>> be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>>
>> Al
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>>>
>>> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>>>
>>> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it strikes
>>> me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
>>> unappreciated.
>>>
>>> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
>>> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>>>
>>> By ease I mean strengthen.
>>>
>>> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position
>>> to assist.
>>>
>>> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine, the
>>> list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the .txt
>>> archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>>>
>>> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>>>
>>> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm
>>>> barely paying my own bill.
>>>>
>>>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>>>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>>>
>>>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>>>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup in
>>>>> the next day or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>>>> service/space to
>>>>> > donate?
>>>>> > //p
>>>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>>>> here, but
>>>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>>>> collaborative
>>>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login
>>>>> info on the
>>>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>> >> l.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>>>> tweaked
>>>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>>>> scripts. They
>>>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever they
>>>>> took
>>>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>>>> problem is
>>>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>>>> still
>>>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>>>> >> //p
>>>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <marcus at wrango.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hi!
>>>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to
>>>>> large for
>>>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>>>> >>> All the best
>>>>> >>> /marcus.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still
>>>>> actively
>>>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>>>> >>> //p
>>>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <
>>>>> paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> All,
>>>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to
>>>>> apply the
>>>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site. This
>>>>> is causing
>>>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am working
>>>>> with them
>>>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note
>>>>> to everyone
>>>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>>>> >>>> //p
>>>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <
>>>>> kim at anechoicmedia.com>
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so we
>>>>> need
>>>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until
>>>>> Paulo has
>>>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload or
>>>>> see
>>>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> laurens.
>>>>> >> ____
>>>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > microsound mailing list
>>>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Al Matthews
>>>
>>> Appressorium
>>> http://www.appressorium.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:38:35 +0000
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David, does that mean you're in charge of Pi Day .

314159265 .  when do we hit 16?

Use that number.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:37 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Second second! All in favor?
>
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:30 eva sjuve <eva at moolab.net> wrote:
>
>> I second that!
>>
>> -Eva
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/16 12:45 PM, David A. Powers wrote:
>>
>> I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
>>
>> Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
>>
>> It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability
>> to create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does
>> not meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
>> musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
>> for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
>>
>> ~David
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
>>> we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>>>
>>> I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need
>>> to be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>>>>
>>>> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it
>>>> strikes me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
>>>> unappreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
>>>> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>>>>
>>>> By ease I mean strengthen.
>>>>
>>>> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position
>>>> to assist.
>>>>
>>>> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine, the
>>>> list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the .txt
>>>> archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>>>>
>>>> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>>>>
>>>> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm
>>>>> barely paying my own bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>>>>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>>>>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>>>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>>>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup in
>>>>>> the next day or so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>>>>> service/space to
>>>>>> > donate?
>>>>>> > //p
>>>>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>>>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>>>>> here, but
>>>>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>>>>> collaborative
>>>>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login
>>>>>> info on the
>>>>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>> >> l.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>>>>> tweaked
>>>>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>>>>> scripts. They
>>>>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever
>>>>>> they took
>>>>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>>>>> problem is
>>>>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>>>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>>>>> >> //p
>>>>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <marcus at wrango.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Hi!
>>>>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>>>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to
>>>>>> large for
>>>>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>>>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>>>>> >>> All the best
>>>>>> >>> /marcus.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still
>>>>>> actively
>>>>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>>>>> >>> //p
>>>>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <
>>>>>> paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> All,
>>>>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to
>>>>>> apply the
>>>>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site.
>>>>>> This is causing
>>>>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am working
>>>>>> with them
>>>>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note
>>>>>> to everyone
>>>>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>>>>> >>>> //p
>>>>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <
>>>>>> kim at anechoicmedia.com>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so
>>>>>> we need
>>>>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until
>>>>>> Paulo has
>>>>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload
>>>>>> or see
>>>>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>>>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>>>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>>>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>>>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>>>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>>>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> laurens.
>>>>>> >> ____
>>>>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>>>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>>>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>>>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>> > microsound mailing list
>>>>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Al Matthews
>>>>
>>>> Appressorium
>>>> http://www.appressorium.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing list
>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing listmicrosound at microsound.orghttp://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:38:35 +0000
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David, does that mean you're in charge of Pi Day .

314159265 .  when do we hit 16?

Use that number.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:37 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Second second! All in favor?
>
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:30 eva sjuve <eva at moolab.net> wrote:
>
>> I second that!
>>
>> -Eva
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/16 12:45 PM, David A. Powers wrote:
>>
>> I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
>>
>> Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
>>
>> It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability
>> to create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does
>> not meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
>> musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
>> for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
>>
>> ~David
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
>>> we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>>>
>>> I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need
>>> to be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>>>>
>>>> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it
>>>> strikes me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
>>>> unappreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
>>>> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>>>>
>>>> By ease I mean strengthen.
>>>>
>>>> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position
>>>> to assist.
>>>>
>>>> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine, the
>>>> list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the .txt
>>>> archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>>>>
>>>> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>>>>
>>>> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm
>>>>> barely paying my own bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>>>>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>>>>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>>>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>>>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup in
>>>>>> the next day or so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>>>>> service/space to
>>>>>> > donate?
>>>>>> > //p
>>>>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>>>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>>>>> here, but
>>>>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>>>>> collaborative
>>>>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login
>>>>>> info on the
>>>>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>> >> l.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>>>>> tweaked
>>>>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>>>>> scripts. They
>>>>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever
>>>>>> they took
>>>>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>>>>> problem is
>>>>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>>>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>>>>> >> //p
>>>>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <marcus at wrango.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Hi!
>>>>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>>>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to
>>>>>> large for
>>>>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>>>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>>>>> >>> All the best
>>>>>> >>> /marcus.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still
>>>>>> actively
>>>>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>>>>> >>> //p
>>>>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <
>>>>>> paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> All,
>>>>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to
>>>>>> apply the
>>>>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site.
>>>>>> This is causing
>>>>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am working
>>>>>> with them
>>>>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note
>>>>>> to everyone
>>>>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>>>>> >>>> //p
>>>>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <
>>>>>> kim at anechoicmedia.com>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so
>>>>>> we need
>>>>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until
>>>>>> Paulo has
>>>>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload
>>>>>> or see
>>>>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>>>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>>>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>>>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>>>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>>>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>>>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> laurens.
>>>>>> >> ____
>>>>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>>>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>>>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>>>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>> > microsound mailing list
>>>>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Al Matthews
>>>>
>>>> Appressorium
>>>> http://www.appressorium.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing list
>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing listmicrosound at microsound.orghttp://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
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Sorry, David???? Miskeyed. David!

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:38 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:

> David, does that mean you're in charge of Pi Day .
>
> 314159265 .  when do we hit 16?
>
> Use that number.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:37 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Second second! All in favor?
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:30 eva sjuve <eva at moolab.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I second that!
>>>
>>> -Eva
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/10/16 12:45 PM, David A. Powers wrote:
>>>
>>> I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
>>>
>>> Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
>>>
>>> It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability
>>> to create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does
>>> not meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
>>> musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
>>> for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
>>>
>>> ~David
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since
>>>> surely we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need
>>>> to be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>>>>>
>>>>> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it
>>>>> strikes me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
>>>>> unappreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
>>>>> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>>>>>
>>>>> By ease I mean strengthen.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position
>>>>> to assist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine,
>>>>> the list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the
>>>>> .txt archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm
>>>>>> barely paying my own bill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>>>>>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>>>>>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>>>>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>>>>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the next day or so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>>>>>> service/space to
>>>>>>> > donate?
>>>>>>> > //p
>>>>>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>>>>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>>>>>> here, but
>>>>>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>>>>>> collaborative
>>>>>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login
>>>>>>> info on the
>>>>>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>> >> l.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>>>>>> tweaked
>>>>>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>>>>>> scripts. They
>>>>>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever
>>>>>>> they took
>>>>>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>>>>>> problem is
>>>>>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>>>>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>>>>>> >> //p
>>>>>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <
>>>>>>> marcus at wrango.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Hi!
>>>>>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>>>>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to
>>>>>>> large for
>>>>>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>>>>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>>>>>> >>> All the best
>>>>>>> >>> /marcus.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still
>>>>>>> actively
>>>>>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>>>>>> >>> //p
>>>>>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <
>>>>>>> paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> All,
>>>>>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to
>>>>>>> apply the
>>>>>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site.
>>>>>>> This is causing
>>>>>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am
>>>>>>> working with them
>>>>>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note
>>>>>>> to everyone
>>>>>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>>>>>> >>>> //p
>>>>>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <
>>>>>>> kim at anechoicmedia.com>
>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so
>>>>>>> we need
>>>>>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until
>>>>>>> Paulo has
>>>>>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload
>>>>>>> or see
>>>>>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>>>>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>>>>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>>>>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>>>>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>>>>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>>>>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> laurens.
>>>>>>> >> ____
>>>>>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>>>>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>>>>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> > microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Al Matthews
>>>>>
>>>>> Appressorium
>>>>> http://www.appressorium.com
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing listmicrosound at microsound.orghttp://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing list
>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>
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Sorry, David???? Miskeyed. David!

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:38 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:

> David, does that mean you're in charge of Pi Day .
>
> 314159265 .  when do we hit 16?
>
> Use that number.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:37 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Second second! All in favor?
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 07:30 eva sjuve <eva at moolab.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I second that!
>>>
>>> -Eva
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/10/16 12:45 PM, David A. Powers wrote:
>>>
>>> I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
>>>
>>> Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
>>>
>>> It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability
>>> to create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does
>>> not meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
>>> musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
>>> for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
>>>
>>> ~David
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since
>>>> surely we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need
>>>> to be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>>>>>
>>>>> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it
>>>>> strikes me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
>>>>> unappreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
>>>>> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>>>>>
>>>>> By ease I mean strengthen.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position
>>>>> to assist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine,
>>>>> the list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the
>>>>> .txt archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm
>>>>>> barely paying my own bill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>>>>>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>>>>>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>>>>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>>>>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the next day or so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>>>>>> service/space to
>>>>>>> > donate?
>>>>>>> > //p
>>>>>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>>>>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>>>>>> here, but
>>>>>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>>>>>> collaborative
>>>>>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login
>>>>>>> info on the
>>>>>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>> >> l.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>>>>>> tweaked
>>>>>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>>>>>> scripts. They
>>>>>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever
>>>>>>> they took
>>>>>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>>>>>> problem is
>>>>>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>>>>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>>>>>> >> //p
>>>>>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <
>>>>>>> marcus at wrango.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Hi!
>>>>>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>>>>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to
>>>>>>> large for
>>>>>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>>>>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>>>>>> >>> All the best
>>>>>>> >>> /marcus.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still
>>>>>>> actively
>>>>>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>>>>>> >>> //p
>>>>>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <
>>>>>>> paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> All,
>>>>>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to
>>>>>>> apply the
>>>>>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site.
>>>>>>> This is causing
>>>>>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am
>>>>>>> working with them
>>>>>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note
>>>>>>> to everyone
>>>>>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>>>>>> >>>> //p
>>>>>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <
>>>>>>> kim at anechoicmedia.com>
>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so
>>>>>>> we need
>>>>>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until
>>>>>>> Paulo has
>>>>>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload
>>>>>>> or see
>>>>>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>>>>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>>>>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>>>>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>>>>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>>>>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>>>>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> laurens.
>>>>>>> >> ____
>>>>>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>>>>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>>>>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> > microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> > microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Al Matthews
>>>>>
>>>>> Appressorium
>>>>> http://www.appressorium.com
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing listmicrosound at microsound.orghttp://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
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From prolepsis at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 07:46:21 2016
From: prolepsis at gmail.com (Al Matthews)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:46:21 +0000
Subject: [microsound] Haskell.scientific
Message-ID: <CALEf-Yn84_0E2WoGdQY9X=KCzHJoKnkEYkVcf61AMAqntAM3EQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/scientific-0.3.4.4/docs/Data-Scientific.html

Of some potential use to any curious Hackers, arithmetic-precision
worriers, musicians in hsc3, Tidal, etc. Who do I neglect here?

I need help!

With the following, BTW.

https://github.com/appressorium/tidal-gl/tree/dev16?files=1

This is gl for Tidal for livecode

Write anytime.

Al

Hit me up.
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From bbrace at eskimo.com  Wed Feb 10 09:18:25 2016
From: bbrace at eskimo.com ({ brad brace })
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 06:18:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
In-Reply-To: <CA+F-_5NdR+nL=5ksj5=7ZqDTBA-cfmwN1=zsFkpjutiPZZ+zpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=nvPpcHWvWmNxwxGzd1c=qo5Kjz-S257jvDqZ_@mail.gmail.com>
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 <AANLkTikTDNKpM_=WfGMd+YGKHmpekVDz3KCE450c8LTq@mail.gmail.com>
 <CD11BC08-7BA6-4B5A-8165-C6083EEAB3C2@gmail.com>
 <AANLkTik5KbgpLqpApV-E+OnFHXzEQ7yVrijU1z908fQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <AANLkTi=60KwSeA+0tePyMFYr1dyAXgDSZGhr7xA5RzuR@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALEf-Yn=sOGJ87eiL+XdhNvyFwp6tCp_RGnCBt45hTk52w4G+w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+g8rhnY-14tDv60=Em8jDtD2iyB3aGNbHm2dfjDdJchDP5jqQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALEf-YnN-ugvtZPZRcxzBdq4ng_=D1mWQxk_MvKhcmw9fXGSQA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.58.1602100615210.5389@eskimo.com>


yes. once institutions get involved, the gig is up!

/:b

=============

Global Islands Project:
http://bbrace.net/id.html

"We fill the craters left by the bombs
And once again we sing
And once again we sow
Because life never surrenders."
-- anonymous Vietnamese poem

{ brad brace }   <<<<< bbrace at eskimo.com >>>>  ~finger for pgp

---    bbs: brad brace sound                               ---
---    http://69.64.225.198:8000                           ---
---    http://bradbrace.net/undisclosed.html 		   ---

.
The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project       >>>> posted since 1994 <<<<

+ + +         serial           ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/home/bbrace
+ + +      eccentric          ftp://  (your-site-here!)
+ + +     continuous         hotline://artlyin.ftr.va.com.au
+ + +    hypermodern      ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace
+ + +        imagery        http://12hr.noemata.net

News:  alt.binaries.pictures.12hr   alt.binaries.pictures.misc
               alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc    alt.12hr

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, David A. Powers wrote:

> I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
>
> Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
>
> It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability to
> create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does not
> meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
> musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
> for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
>
> ~David
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
> > we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
> >
> > I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need to
> > be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
> >
> > Al


From prolepsis at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 09:44:38 2016
From: prolepsis at gmail.com (Al Matthews)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:44:38 +0000
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
Message-ID: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>

Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed

Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.

Aye?

Other, future-friendly projects?

Al.
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From sietse.van.erve at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 09:48:00 2016
From: sietse.van.erve at gmail.com (Sietse)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:48:00 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
In-Reply-To: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACsySyqRfaeL6mxGv3FaVdBSVEm4YxE2D=Qz7=-y6K-K23cRiw@mail.gmail.com>

I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and that
this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts

Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.


Greetings,

Sietse

===============================
www.movingfurniturerecords.com
www.orphax.com

On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
>
> Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
>
> Aye?
>
> Other, future-friendly projects?
>
> Al.
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
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From bbrace at eskimo.com  Wed Feb 10 09:58:00 2016
From: bbrace at eskimo.com ({ brad brace })
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 06:58:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
In-Reply-To: <CACsySyqRfaeL6mxGv3FaVdBSVEm4YxE2D=Qz7=-y6K-K23cRiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACsySyqRfaeL6mxGv3FaVdBSVEm4YxE2D=Qz7=-y6K-K23cRiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.58.1602100657140.5389@eskimo.com>


FB is evil/useless.

/:b

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Sietse wrote:

> I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and that
> this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
>
> Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Sietse
>
> ===============================
> www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> www.orphax.com
>
> On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> >
> > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> >
> > Aye?
> >
> > Other, future-friendly projects?
> >
> > Al.

From sietse.van.erve at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 10:00:08 2016
From: sietse.van.erve at gmail.com (Sietse)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:00:08 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.4.58.1602100657140.5389@eskimo.com>
References: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACsySyqRfaeL6mxGv3FaVdBSVEm4YxE2D=Qz7=-y6K-K23cRiw@mail.gmail.com>
 <Pine.SUN.4.58.1602100657140.5389@eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <CACsySypoeXxdrpUfsyxDb3Uo8vTbP7kmYjkBxdqh81xxiyV4qg@mail.gmail.com>

Well, this whole mailinglist is now useless.

===
www.movingfurniturerecords.com
www.orphax.com
On Feb 10, 2016 15:58, "{ brad brace }" <bbrace at eskimo.com> wrote:

>
> FB is evil/useless.
>
> /:b
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Sietse wrote:
>
> > I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and that
> > this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
> >
> > Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Sietse
> >
> > ===============================
> > www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> > www.orphax.com
> >
> > On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> > >
> > > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> > >
> > > Aye?
> > >
> > > Other, future-friendly projects?
> > >
> > > Al.
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
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From boris.klompus at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 10:01:52 2016
From: boris.klompus at gmail.com (Boris Klompus)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:01:52 -0500
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
In-Reply-To: <CACsySypoeXxdrpUfsyxDb3Uo8vTbP7kmYjkBxdqh81xxiyV4qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACsySyqRfaeL6mxGv3FaVdBSVEm4YxE2D=Qz7=-y6K-K23cRiw@mail.gmail.com>
 <Pine.SUN.4.58.1602100657140.5389@eskimo.com>
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Message-ID: <CACNLYEMZ_cybGcJtS0-WB0FtyOQWgf3nhtCmBhh_o-hKYCuSxA@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, that's a shame.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Sietse <sietse.van.erve at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, this whole mailinglist is now useless.
>
> ===
> www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> www.orphax.com
> On Feb 10, 2016 15:58, "{ brad brace }" <bbrace at eskimo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> FB is evil/useless.
>>
>> /:b
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Sietse wrote:
>>
>> > I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and
>> that
>> > this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
>> >
>> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
>> >
>> > Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
>> >
>> >
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > Sietse
>> >
>> > ===============================
>> > www.movingfurniturerecords.com
>> > www.orphax.com
>> >
>> > On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
>> > >
>> > > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
>> > >
>> > > Aye?
>> > >
>> > > Other, future-friendly projects?
>> > >
>> > > Al.
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
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From linton5.0 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 12:26:00 2016
From: linton5.0 at gmail.com (David Linton)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:26:00 -0500
Subject: [microsound] microsound Digest, Vol 61, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.736.1455116427.18958.microsound@or8.net>
References: <mailman.736.1455116427.18958.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <CADnPt7KmyP+re23PDTEW_TfJuqPb99z4212mHRoG5Qt=272jnw@mail.gmail.com>

why this sudden barrage of micro sound mail after years of silence?
this is cloggin up my inbox and the unsubscribe function requires a
password?
huh?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM, <microsound-request at or8.net> wrote:

> Send microsound mailing list submissions to
>         microsound at or8.net
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         microsound-request at or8.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of microsound digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Haskell.scientific (Al Matthews)
>    2. Re: Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
>       ({ brad brace })
>    3. Contracts full of eels (Al Matthews)
>    4. Re: Contracts full of eels (Sietse)
>    5. Re: Contracts full of eels ({ brad brace })
>    6. Re: Contracts full of eels (Sietse)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:46:21 +0000
> From: Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Cc: Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com>
> Subject: [microsound] Haskell.scientific
> Message-ID:
>         <CALEf-Yn84_0E2WoGdQY9X=
> KCzHJoKnkEYkVcf61AMAqntAM3EQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/scientific-0.3.4.4/docs/Data-Scientific.html
>
> Of some potential use to any curious Hackers, arithmetic-precision
> worriers, musicians in hsc3, Tidal, etc. Who do I neglect here?
>
> I need help!
>
> With the following, BTW.
>
> https://github.com/appressorium/tidal-gl/tree/dev16?files=1
>
> This is gl for Tidal for livecode
>
> Write anytime.
>
> Al
>
> Hit me up.
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> From: { brad brace } <bbrace at eskimo.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Cc: Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still
>         ongoing
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> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
> yes. once institutions get involved, the gig is up!
>
> /:b
>
> =============
>
> Global Islands Project:
> http://bbrace.net/id.html
>
> "We fill the craters left by the bombs
> And once again we sing
> And once again we sow
> Because life never surrenders."
> -- anonymous Vietnamese poem
>
> { brad brace }   <<<<< bbrace at eskimo.com >>>>  ~finger for pgp
>
> ---    bbs: brad brace sound                               ---
> ---    http://69.64.225.198:8000                           ---
> ---    http://bradbrace.net/undisclosed.html               ---
>
> .
> The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project       >>>> posted since 1994 <<<<
>
> + + +         serial           ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/home/bbrace
> + + +      eccentric          ftp://  (your-site-here!)
> + + +     continuous         hotline://artlyin.ftr.va.com.au
> + + +    hypermodern      ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace
> + + +        imagery        http://12hr.noemata.net
>
> News:  alt.binaries.pictures.12hr   alt.binaries.pictures.misc
>                alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc    alt.12hr
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, David A. Powers wrote:
>
> > I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
> >
> > Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
> >
> > It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability
> to
> > create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does
> not
> > meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
> > musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the
> battle
> > for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
> >
> > ~David
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since
> surely
> > > we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
> > >
> > > I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need
> to
> > > be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
> > >
> > > Al
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:44:38 +0000
> From: Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
> Message-ID:
>         <CALEf-Y=
> PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
>
> Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
>
> Aye?
>
> Other, future-friendly projects?
>
> Al.
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> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:48:00 +0100
> From: Sietse <sietse.van.erve at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and that
> this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
>
> Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Sietse
>
> ===============================
> www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> www.orphax.com
>
> On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> >
> > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> >
> > Aye?
> >
> > Other, future-friendly projects?
> >
> > Al.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
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> FB is evil/useless.
>
> /:b
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Sietse wrote:
>
> > I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and that
> > this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
> >
> > Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Sietse
> >
> > ===============================
> > www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> > www.orphax.com
> >
> > On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> > >
> > > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> > >
> > > Aye?
> > >
> > > Other, future-friendly projects?
> > >
> > > Al.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:00:08 +0100
> From: Sietse <sietse.van.erve at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CACsySypoeXxdrpUfsyxDb3Uo8vTbP7kmYjkBxdqh81xxiyV4qg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Well, this whole mailinglist is now useless.
>
> ===
> www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> www.orphax.com
> On Feb 10, 2016 15:58, "{ brad brace }" <bbrace at eskimo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > FB is evil/useless.
> >
> > /:b
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Sietse wrote:
> >
> > > I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and
> that
> > > this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
> > >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
> > >
> > > Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Sietse
> > >
> > > ===============================
> > > www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> > > www.orphax.com
> > >
> > > On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> > > >
> > > > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> > > >
> > > > Aye?
> > > >
> > > > Other, future-friendly projects?
> > > >
> > > > Al.
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
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From dara1339 at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 10 12:38:00 2016
From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:38:00 -0500
Subject: [microsound] microsound Digest, Vol 61, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <CADnPt7KmyP+re23PDTEW_TfJuqPb99z4212mHRoG5Qt=272jnw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.736.1455116427.18958.microsound@or8.net>
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I had got abusive comments by some moderator here a while back for posting my music which had done for years. No solicitation of any kind and no spamming was in order. 

Then I was blocked and then unlocked and blocked again, all of sudden everyone is allowed to post stuff here. 

I asked the man to unsubscribe me, and I ask again to be removed from this list immediately.

Fickle moderation is not allowed. 

Best wishes for everyone here. 

Dara
On 2016-02-10, at 12:26 PM, David Linton <linton5.0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> why this sudden barrage of micro sound mail after years of silence?
> this is cloggin up my inbox and the unsubscribe function requires a password?
> huh?
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM, <microsound-request at or8.net> wrote:
> Send microsound mailing list submissions to
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> 
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> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. Haskell.scientific (Al Matthews)
>    2. Re: Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
>       ({ brad brace })
>    3. Contracts full of eels (Al Matthews)
>    4. Re: Contracts full of eels (Sietse)
>    5. Re: Contracts full of eels ({ brad brace })
>    6. Re: Contracts full of eels (Sietse)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:46:21 +0000
> From: Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Cc: Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com>
> Subject: [microsound] Haskell.scientific
> Message-ID:
>         <CALEf-Yn84_0E2WoGdQY9X=KCzHJoKnkEYkVcf61AMAqntAM3EQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/scientific-0.3.4.4/docs/Data-Scientific.html
> 
> Of some potential use to any curious Hackers, arithmetic-precision
> worriers, musicians in hsc3, Tidal, etc. Who do I neglect here?
> 
> I need help!
> 
> With the following, BTW.
> 
> https://github.com/appressorium/tidal-gl/tree/dev16?files=1
> 
> This is gl for Tidal for livecode
> 
> Write anytime.
> 
> Al
> 
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> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 06:18:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: { brad brace } <bbrace at eskimo.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Cc: Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still
>         ongoing
> Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.58.1602100615210.5389 at eskimo.com>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> 
> yes. once institutions get involved, the gig is up!
> 
> /:b
> 
> =============
> 
> Global Islands Project:
> http://bbrace.net/id.html
> 
> "We fill the craters left by the bombs
> And once again we sing
> And once again we sow
> Because life never surrenders."
> -- anonymous Vietnamese poem
> 
> { brad brace }   <<<<< bbrace at eskimo.com >>>>  ~finger for pgp
> 
> ---    bbs: brad brace sound                               ---
> ---    http://69.64.225.198:8000                           ---
> ---    http://bradbrace.net/undisclosed.html               ---
> 
> .
> The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project       >>>> posted since 1994 <<<<
> 
> + + +         serial           ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/home/bbrace
> + + +      eccentric          ftp://  (your-site-here!)
> + + +     continuous         hotline://artlyin.ftr.va.com.au
> + + +    hypermodern      ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace
> + + +        imagery        http://12hr.noemata.net
> 
> News:  alt.binaries.pictures.12hr   alt.binaries.pictures.misc
>                alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc    alt.12hr
> 
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, David A. Powers wrote:
> 
> > I miss the group projects, such as Pi Day. Those were really cool.
> >
> > Why is it so hard to form any kind of virtual communities in 2016?
> >
> > It seems that social media has had a very negative impact on our ability to
> > create virtual spaces outside of the mainstream. Yet social media does not
> > meet my needs to engage in discourse and collaborate with like minded
> > musicians and artists... Unless I'm missing something, it's like the battle
> > for the internet is already over, and artists have lost.
> >
> > ~David
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
> > > we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
> > >
> > > I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need to
> > > be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
> > >
> > > Al
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:44:38 +0000
> From: Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
> Message-ID:
>         <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> 
> Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> 
> Aye?
> 
> Other, future-friendly projects?
> 
> Al.
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> From: Sietse <sietse.van.erve at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
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> 
> I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and that
> this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
> 
> Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Sietse
> 
> ===============================
> www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> www.orphax.com
> 
> On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> >
> > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> >
> > Aye?
> >
> > Other, future-friendly projects?
> >
> > Al.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 06:58:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: { brad brace } <bbrace at eskimo.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
> Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.58.1602100657140.5389 at eskimo.com>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> 
> FB is evil/useless.
> 
> /:b
> 
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Sietse wrote:
> 
> > I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and that
> > this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
> >
> > Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Sietse
> >
> > ===============================
> > www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> > www.orphax.com
> >
> > On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> > >
> > > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> > >
> > > Aye?
> > >
> > > Other, future-friendly projects?
> > >
> > > Al.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:00:08 +0100
> From: Sietse <sietse.van.erve at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
> Message-ID:
>         <CACsySypoeXxdrpUfsyxDb3Uo8vTbP7kmYjkBxdqh81xxiyV4qg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Well, this whole mailinglist is now useless.
> 
> ===
> www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> www.orphax.com
> On Feb 10, 2016 15:58, "{ brad brace }" <bbrace at eskimo.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > FB is evil/useless.
> >
> > /:b
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Sietse wrote:
> >
> > > I hope you are all aware there is a Microsound group on Facebook and that
> > > this mailinglist is just not used anymore, right?
> > >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/?fref=ts
> > >
> > > Ask the be added and someone might just add you to the group.
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Sietse
> > >
> > > ===============================
> > > www.movingfurniturerecords.com
> > > www.orphax.com
> > >
> > > On 10 February 2016 at 15:44, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Project: read them aloud at a comfortable speed
> > > >
> > > > Strictly unofficial as a .microsound provocation.
> > > >
> > > > Aye?
> > > >
> > > > Other, future-friendly projects?
> > > >
> > > > Al.
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
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From js0000 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 13:26:29 2016
From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:26:29 -0500
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
In-Reply-To: <CACsySypoeXxdrpUfsyxDb3Uo8vTbP7kmYjkBxdqh81xxiyV4qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <56BB80D5.1090605@gmail.com>

(ding)

On 02/10/16 10:00, Sietse wrote:
>
> Well, this whole mailinglist is now useless.
>

hmm ...

there's still traffic on it occasionally and subscriptions and removals 
are all working.

i guess if you think it's useless it is.


-=+=-


(from t.merton's poetic translations of zhuangzhi)

The Useless Tree

Hui Tzu said to Chuang, "I have a big tree, the kind they call a 
"stinktree." The trunk is so distorted, so full of knots, no one can get 
a straight plank out of it. The branches are so crooked you cannot cut 
them up in any way that makes sense."

"There it stands beside the road. No carpenter will even look at it. 
Such is your teaching - big and useless."

Chuang Tzu replied, "Have you ever watched the wildcat crouching, 
watching his prey. The prey leaps this way, and that way, high and low, 
and at last lands in the trap. And have you seen the Yak? Great as a 
thundercloud, he stands in his might. Big? Sure, but he can't catch mice!"

"So for your big tree, no use? Then plant it in the wasteland, in 
emptiness. Walk idly around it, rest under its shadow. No axe or bill 
prepares its end. No one will ever cut it down."

"Useless? You should worry!"




From js0000 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 13:37:19 2016
From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:37:19 -0500
Subject: [microsound] microsound Digest, Vol 61, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP4263C23BFF63886E094A84D1D70@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.736.1455116427.18958.microsound@or8.net>
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Message-ID: <56BB835F.309@gmail.com>

On 02/10/16 12:38, Dara Shayda wrote:
> I asked the man to unsubscribe me, and I ask again to be removed from 
> this list immediately.

you can unsubscribe yourself.

> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound 

really, it's not too hard.

> Fickle moderation is not allowed.

the policy on this list has always been if you are subscribed you can 
post. the only restrictions are that attachments are dropped and there 
is a 40k limit on mail size. speaking only for myself, i have *never* 
withheld any post on the basis of it's content.

there may have been one or two behavioral problems years ago, but that 
could also be a different context. my memory is full of other things 
besides people who behave poorly on public email lists ...




From sakrecoer at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 13:56:54 2016
From: sakrecoer at gmail.com (Set Hallstrom)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:56:54 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
In-Reply-To: <56BB80D5.1090605@gmail.com>
References: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACsySyqRfaeL6mxGv3FaVdBSVEm4YxE2D=Qz7=-y6K-K23cRiw@mail.gmail.com>
 <Pine.SUN.4.58.1602100657140.5389@eskimo.com>
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 <56BB80D5.1090605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56BB87F6.8070108@gmail.com>

I for one am super happy about this awakening!
Some people do cross words, other do sudoku, i read ToS. And so in 2012
after spending 8 hours reading the ToS, I deactivated my facebook (yeah,
deletion is impossible). Afterards I couldn't sleep for weeks, thinking
of all the people i had recruited for them out of sole desire to share
my music.

I haven't looked back, my website is alive again, and there are plenty
of really fun places out here in cyberspace!

I might participate in this Topic, probably reading the Contract Full of
Eels that Facebook is ruled by.

Yours,
Set

On 2016-02-10 19:26, john saylor wrote:
> (ding)
> 
> On 02/10/16 10:00, Sietse wrote:
>>
>> Well, this whole mailinglist is now useless.
>>
> 
> hmm ...
> 
> there's still traffic on it occasionally and subscriptions and removals
> are all working.
> 
> i guess if you think it's useless it is.
> 
> 
> -=+=-
> 
> 
> (from t.merton's poetic translations of zhuangzhi)
> 
> The Useless Tree
> 
> Hui Tzu said to Chuang, "I have a big tree, the kind they call a
> "stinktree." The trunk is so distorted, so full of knots, no one can get
> a straight plank out of it. The branches are so crooked you cannot cut
> them up in any way that makes sense."
> 
> "There it stands beside the road. No carpenter will even look at it.
> Such is your teaching - big and useless."
> 
> Chuang Tzu replied, "Have you ever watched the wildcat crouching,
> watching his prey. The prey leaps this way, and that way, high and low,
> and at last lands in the trap. And have you seen the Yak? Great as a
> thundercloud, he stands in his might. Big? Sure, but he can't catch mice!"
> 
> "So for your big tree, no use? Then plant it in the wasteland, in
> emptiness. Walk idly around it, rest under its shadow. No axe or bill
> prepares its end. No one will ever cut it down."
> 
> "Useless? You should worry!"
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


-- 
Set Hallstrom
AKA Sakrecoer
http://sakrecoer.com

From public at sakrecoer.com  Wed Feb 10 14:11:58 2016
From: public at sakrecoer.com (set)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:11:58 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
In-Reply-To: <56BB87F6.8070108@gmail.com>
References: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <56BB80D5.1090605@gmail.com> <56BB87F6.8070108@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56BB8B7E.6040301@sakrecoer.com>

On 2016-02-10 19:56, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>  i read ToS. And so in 2012

So, now also google is out of the way between us.
"Consistency" kind of a single-word contract, isn't it? :D


-- 
Set H.

From public at sakrecoer.com  Wed Feb 10 14:25:19 2016
From: public at sakrecoer.com (set)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:25:19 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
In-Reply-To: <56BB8B7E.6040301@sakrecoer.com>
References: <CALEf-Y=PmJmtYx7uPDhcxeeztC5qGNq21FkYmZcSsm3N7xZTyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACsySyqRfaeL6mxGv3FaVdBSVEm4YxE2D=Qz7=-y6K-K23cRiw@mail.gmail.com>
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hmm... the second mail came thru, and on double check; i do have
"recieve my own posts" set to "yes"... and can't have
been blocked since i just updated the address i had registered. Probably
some obscure and unwanted gogolemagick.... (^^,)

Oh well, how much harm can it do to send it again, in a world full of
filters? I hope none, however rest assured i won't do it again :)

Yours enthusiastically,
Set

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [microsound] Contracts full of eels
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:56:54 +0100
From: Set Hallstrom <sakrecoer at gmail.com>
To: microsound at or8.net

I for one am super happy about this awakening!
Some people do cross words, other do sudoku, i read ToS. And so in 2012
after spending 8 hours reading the ToS, I deactivated my facebook (yeah,
deletion is impossible). Afterwards I couldn't sleep for weeks, thinking
of all the people i had recruited for them out of sole desire to share
my music.

I haven't looked back, my website is alive again, and there are plenty
of really fun places out here in cyberspace!

I might participate in this Topic, probably reading the Contract Full of
Eels that Facebook is ruled by.

Yours,
Set

On 2016-02-10 19:26, john saylor wrote:
> (ding)
> 
> On 02/10/16 10:00, Sietse wrote:
>> 
>> Well, this whole mailinglist is now useless.
>> 
> 
> hmm ...
> 
> there's still traffic on it occasionally and subscriptions and
> removals are all working.
> 
> i guess if you think it's useless it is.
> 
> 
> -=+=-
> 
> 
> (from t.merton's poetic translations of zhuangzhi)
> 
> The Useless Tree
> 
> Hui Tzu said to Chuang, "I have a big tree, the kind they call a 
> "stinktree." The trunk is so distorted, so full of knots, no one can
> get a straight plank out of it. The branches are so crooked you
> cannot cut them up in any way that makes sense."
> 
> "There it stands beside the road. No carpenter will even look at it. 
> Such is your teaching - big and useless."
> 
> Chuang Tzu replied, "Have you ever watched the wildcat crouching, 
> watching his prey. The prey leaps this way, and that way, high and
> low, and at last lands in the trap. And have you seen the Yak? Great
> as a thundercloud, he stands in his might. Big? Sure, but he can't
> catch mice!"
> 
> "So for your big tree, no use? Then plant it in the wasteland, in 
> emptiness. Walk idly around it, rest under its shadow. No axe or
> bill prepares its end. No one will ever cut it down."
> 
> "Useless? You should worry!"
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________ microsound mailing
> list microsound at microsound.org 
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


-- 
Set Hallstrom
AKA Sakrecoer
http://sakrecoer.com



From paulo.mouat at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 20:18:01 2016
From: paulo.mouat at gmail.com (Paulo Mouat)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:18:01 -0500
Subject: [microsound] Work on sorting out upload issues still ongoing
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No need to worry. The list can continue to be hosted at my expense. Last
time I looked, the project and repository were working fine and all issues
with upload limits were sorted out in due course (a few weeks after they
were originally reported, can't recall exactly, it was 5 years ago!).

All that said, if you have any better suggestions for hosting media files,
I'm all for it, though we might lose the cool dynamic styling we have now
(and programmed by yours truly) for project artwork.

I think we're just lacking new projects; all else is in place.

Cheers!

//p
http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:32 AM, Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, sorry: the github links per se are irrelevant, I think, since surely
> we're near to GPL something as an infrastructure.
>
> I find myself tucking things in there that either I a) want or 2) need to
> be there in 20-40 .. years (?)
>
> Al
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 06:21 Al Matthews <info at appressorium.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, tweaking tone.
>>
>> .microsound list is quiet these says. Not so much .microsound-announce.
>>
>> I'd like to be able to help sustain the list in some way, and it strikes
>> me that Paulo and Herb and most have been both instrumental and
>> unappreciated.
>>
>> Hosting costs money, so I'm mostly interested I helping ease the
>> infrastructure, not, supplant it.
>>
>> By ease I mean strengthen.
>>
>> If this is of interest going forward, I may, too, then, be in position to
>> assist.
>>
>> I hope you'll each excuse my excitable tone, as, I like to imagine, the
>> list is worth preserving by whatever means. Your contributions, the .txt
>> archive, and heated exchanges long before I clued in.
>>
>> As you think if it, let me know how I might help.
>>
>> Even if it is on WordPress, or even, on Google.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 00:08 Al Matthews <prolepsis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can host .ms, or help host, in cloudshare. Redundancy please, I'm barely
>>> paying my own bill.
>>>
>>> But no WP expertise. I've installed it and whatever, but, no. Anybody
>>> else got a spare cycle this week?
>>>
>>> https://tvfm.slack.com/home for offlist chat. Hit me up.
>>> https://github.com/tvfm for code, iffz you wantz.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaZtNrzVIAA8cyt.jpg
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM Herb <htheriault at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone running a wordpress based site with a bit of bandwidth to
>>>> spare? There's a dropbox plugin that allows uploads. My schedule is a
>>>> bit crazy, but if no one else does it, I could try to get one setup in
>>>> the next day or so.
>>>>
>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/dropbox-plugin/
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Who would fund the 'microsoundcloud'? Do you have a cloud
>>>> service/space to
>>>> > donate?
>>>> > //p
>>>> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Laurens van der Wee <
>>>> l.vanderwee at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >> I don't have anything for upload so maybe I should not interfere
>>>> here, but
>>>> >> why not create a 'microsoundcloud'? I think you can make that
>>>> collaborative
>>>> >> and let others share files on the same page (or you share login info
>>>> on the
>>>> >> list). I mean, it's 2011, why wait for this very one server issue?
>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>> >> l.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 15 mrt 2011, at 02:40, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, the repository is unavailable since the hosting company has
>>>> tweaked
>>>> >> some configuration files and it broke the normal processing of
>>>> scripts. They
>>>> >> are currently investigating the issue. Unfortunately, whenever they
>>>> took
>>>> >> this long to sort out any issues it has usually meant that the
>>>> problem is
>>>> >> not resolvable (the list hosting debacle comes to mind), but I am
>>>> still
>>>> >> hopeful it is not the case.
>>>> >> There is no alternative way to transfer the files.
>>>> >> //p
>>>> >> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Marcus Wrang? <marcus at wrango.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hi!
>>>> >>> Now it seems like the repository is unavailable too.
>>>> >>> I have a pi-piece standing back for upload, but it is also to large
>>>> for
>>>> >>> going under the 2MB limit.
>>>> >>> Could we use some other way of transferring the files?
>>>> >>> All the best
>>>> >>> /marcus.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 14 mar 2011, at 02.00, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Just to let everyone know that the hosting company is still actively
>>>> >>> trying to resolve this. Uploading of large files is still broken.
>>>> >>> //p
>>>> >>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat at gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> All,
>>>> >>>> It turns out that the hosting company unilaterally decided to
>>>> apply the
>>>> >>>> default limits for file uploads on the microsound.org site. This
>>>> is causing
>>>> >>>> uploads of files larger than 2 MB to silently fail. I am working
>>>> with them
>>>> >>>> to raise this limit to an appropriate value. I will send a note to
>>>> everyone
>>>> >>>> once this is sorted out.
>>>> >>>> //p
>>>> >>>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Kim Cascone <
>>>> kim at anechoicmedia.com>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> just got word that there might be problems with the server so we
>>>> need
>>>> >>>>> to extend the deadline
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I'll make the deadline March 14 since we need to wait until Paulo
>>>> has
>>>> >>>>> some bandwidth to fix things
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> deadline: March 14th
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> contact Paulo if by end of the weekend you still can't upload or
>>>> see
>>>> >>>>> the files on the project page
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>>> microsound mailing list
>>>> >>>>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> >>>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>> microsound mailing list
>>>> >>> microsound at microsound.org
>>>> >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>> >>> Marcus Wrang?
>>>> >>> marcus at wrango.com
>>>> >>> http://marcus.wrango.com
>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>> >>> New venue in Stockholm:
>>>> >>> Audiorama - a place for listening.
>>>> >>> With loudspeaker based drama,
>>>> >>> music, art and research.
>>>> >>> http://www.audiorama.se
>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >>
>>>> >> laurens.
>>>> >> ____
>>>> >> t:   (+31) 6 120 59 134
>>>> >> e:  l.vanderwee at gmail.com
>>>> >> w: www.laurensvanderwee.nl
>>>> >> s:  laurensvanderwee
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >> microsound at microsound.org
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>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Al Matthews
>>
>> Appressorium
>> http://www.appressorium.com
>>
>>
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