From dara1339 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 1 15:25:22 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:25:22 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Fughetta: Kepler's Lament Message-ID: Happy New Year! https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/kepler-lament The image is the remnant of Kepler's supernova, the famous explosion that was discovered by Johannes Kepler in 1604. The red, green and blue colors show low, intermediate and high energy X-rays observed with NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, and the star field is from the Digitized Sky Survey. Source: chandra.si.edu/photo/2013/kepler/ Image processed twice: 1. Skeleton Transform 2. Watershed Components MetaSynth sonified both images, Melodyne Midi-fied, and extractions from the resulting midi files were re-arranged in Logic Pro X. Counterpoint arrangement, repeated twice. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.leith at telus.net Wed Jan 1 15:35:10 2014 From: david.leith at telus.net (David Leith) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 12:35:10 -0800 Subject: [microsound] Fughetta: Kepler's Lament In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nicely done Thanks for the listen Dave On 1-Jan-14, at 12:25 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: > Happy New Year! > > https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/kepler-lament > The image is the remnant of Kepler's supernova, the famous explosion > that was discovered by Johannes Kepler in 1604. The red, green and > blue colors show low, intermediate and high energy X-rays observed > with NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, and the star field is from > the Digitized Sky Survey. > Source: chandra.si.edu/photo/2013/kepler/ > > Image processed twice: > > 1. Skeleton Transform > 2. Watershed Components > > MetaSynth sonified both images, Melodyne Midi-fied, and extractions > from the resulting midi files were re-arranged in Logic Pro X. > > Counterpoint arrangement, repeated twice. > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From milan.lists at gmail.com Wed Jan 1 15:36:38 2014 From: milan.lists at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Milan_Davidovi=E6?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:36:38 -0600 Subject: [microsound] Fughetta: Kepler's Lament In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Concurred. Happy New Year... --Milan Davidovi? Sent from my Commercial Visible 6 On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:35 PM, David Leith wrote: > Nicely done > > Thanks for the listen > > Dave > > On 1-Jan-14, at 12:25 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: > > Happy New Year! > > https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/kepler-lament From dara1339 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 1 16:25:19 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 21:25:19 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Fughetta: Kepler's Lament In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Than you to both of you for listening and happy new year D On 2014-01-01, at 8:36 PM, Milan Davidovi? wrote: > Concurred. Happy New Year... > > --Milan Davidovi? > > Sent from my Commercial Visible 6 > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:35 PM, David Leith wrote: >> Nicely done >> >> Thanks for the listen >> >> Dave >> >> On 1-Jan-14, at 12:25 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: >> >> Happy New Year! >> >> https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/kepler-lament > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From dara1339 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 2 20:10:54 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 01:10:54 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Beloved Midst the Carbon Dioxide Frosted Dunes Message-ID: https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/beloved-midst-the-carbon From dara1339 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 4 18:49:43 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 23:49:43 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Darwishaan Sob in Polyphonic Message-ID: https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/darwishaan-sob-in-polyphonic From roger at eartrumpet.org Tue Jan 7 21:20:52 2014 From: roger at eartrumpet.org (Roger Mills) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:20:52 +1100 Subject: [microsound] Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56D80B8C-E376-4956-8EFA-D7C828B8F185@eartrumpet.org> Hi all, I am researching intercultural tele-improvisation and wondered if there any of you on the list have experience of, or know about, any improvisatory networked projects that are not primarily between academic musicians and institutions using high speed research networks ? My interest here is with musicians and projects working across musical cultures of improvisation that may not be limited to microsound and electroacoustic music but using interfaces on domestic networks such as eJaming, NINJAM ect.. Musical cultures may also be within an European to Anglo American paradigm -- Roger Mills http://www.eartrumpet.org http://roger.netpraxis.net http://ethernetorchestra.netpraxis.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dara1339 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 8 09:29:30 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 14:29:30 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Youngling Smiling Corners of Yoshikawa Crater Message-ID: https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/corners_of_yoshikawa_crater Cover: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA17770 This crater may host ice-rich deposits within its floor. Though in total shadow when it was imaged here on November 7, 2013, only a portion of the floor is permanently shadowed from the Sun's rays. The crisp rim and well-preserved field of secondary craters surrounding Yoshikawa mean that it is a relatively young crater, and any ice deposits within it must also be relatively young. Crater image was filtered by the CornerFilter in Mathematica and instead of looking at the dominating crater arch, plethora of 'corners' were unearthed which then each become a note(s) in the melody and chords of the subsequent sonification by MetaSynth, and the Melodic-algorithm midification was performed by Melodyne, both time quantization and pitch were corrected as well: files.lossofgenerality.com/yoshikawa_corner_PC_QT.mid The resulting Midi file was played twice back to back, by instruments on Logic Pro namely Stratosphere and Anticipation Synthesizer>Soundscape . Production Notes Image = http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA17770_modest.jpg Corner Filter = http://files.lossofgenerality.com/yoshikawa_corner_filter.jpg http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/CornerFilter.html MetaSynth { MAP=Exponential BPM=30 E-2 (to 0 if desired) x=1024, y=1024 Attach several times if needed Multisampler = SpaceTech Piano 1 Stereo } -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dara1339 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 8 15:02:29 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:02:29 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Youngling Smiling Corners of Yoshikawa Crater In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/for-whom-the-craters-smile On 2014-01-08, at 2:29 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: > > https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/corners_of_yoshikawa_crater > > Cover: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA17770 > > This crater may host ice-rich deposits within its floor. Though in total shadow when it was imaged here on November 7, 2013, only a portion of the floor is permanently shadowed from the Sun's rays. The crisp rim and well-preserved field of secondary craters surrounding Yoshikawa mean that it is a relatively young crater, and any ice deposits within it must also be relatively young. > > > Crater image was filtered by the CornerFilter in Mathematica and instead of looking at the dominating crater arch, plethora of 'corners' were unearthed which then each become a note(s) in the melody and chords of the subsequent sonification by MetaSynth, and the Melodic-algorithm midification was performed by Melodyne, both time quantization and pitch were corrected as well: > > files.lossofgenerality.com/yoshikawa_corner_PC_QT.mid > > The resulting Midi file was played twice back to back, by instruments on Logic Pro namely Stratosphere and Anticipation Synthesizer>Soundscape . > > Production Notes > > Image = http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA17770_modest.jpg > Corner Filter = http://files.lossofgenerality.com/yoshikawa_corner_filter.jpg > http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/CornerFilter.html > > MetaSynth > > { > MAP=Exponential > BPM=30 > E-2 (to 0 if desired) > x=1024, y=1024 > Attach several times if needed > Multisampler = SpaceTech Piano 1 > Stereo > > } > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kim at anechoicmedia.com Mon Jan 20 13:15:08 2014 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:15:08 -0800 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook Message-ID: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> Dear .microsounders, Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of communication, i.e. the email list, has become antiquated. If you are on Facebook I think it might be a good idea to migrate to the .microsound group there since you can post media directly to the page -- which makes sense since we are a media-oriented community. https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/ anyway, hope everyone is doing well in this new year ciao! kim From jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net Mon Jan 20 13:39:31 2014 From: jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net (John Hopkins) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:39:31 -0700 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of communication, i.e. > the email list, has become antiquated. well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a life-time, and dinosaurs do die... cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! Cheers, JOhn -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD photographer, media artist, archivist http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From port.a.life at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 13:54:12 2014 From: port.a.life at gmail.com (port.a.life at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:54:12 -0500 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: I think its pretty sad to watch the internet get boiled down to a homogenized, corp controlled, curated stream of stream of nonsense just so analytics can be datamined.... what ever happened to by the people for the people. Its funny how FB is getting more and more noisy and staticy but no one will make a good alternative because everyone else is using it. That seems like a faulty logic. On the flip side, FB does make curated group conversation with fully re-post-able media easy to use and quick to consume... Oh what a world we live in.... On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of >> communication, i.e. >> the email list, has become antiquated. >> > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from > a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an early > adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time network > performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my > account for a variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting > policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of course, > one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares > about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps > the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a > life-time, and dinosaurs do die... > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > Cheers, > JOhn > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > photographer, media artist, archivist > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikamartini at yahoo.com Mon Jan 20 13:55:31 2014 From: mikamartini at yahoo.com (Mika Martini) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:55:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [microsound] {Definitely Spam?} Re: .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: <1390244131.60559.YahooMailNeo@web141505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> facebook no!, short. "cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted!" I agree. ? Mika Martini aka Frank Benkho Director Pueblo Nuevo Netlabel -------------------------------------------------- www.pueblonuevo.cl www.twitter.com/mikamartini www.soundcloud.com/frankbenkho -------------------------------------------------- (Nota: el contenido de este email es confidencial, por favor no lo replique en ninguna red social sin mi autorizacion. / This email is confidential, please do not publish it at facebook, twitter or any social media without my agreement) ________________________________ De: John Hopkins Para: microsound at or8.net Enviado: Lunes, 20 de enero, 2014 15:39:31 Asunto: Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of communication, i.e. > the email list, has become antiquated. well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\? Everything has a life-time, and dinosaurs do die... cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! Cheers, JOhn -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD photographer, media artist, archivist http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bonhagjeffrey at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 14:05:51 2014 From: bonhagjeffrey at gmail.com (Jeff Bonhag) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:05:51 -0500 Subject: [microsound] microsound Digest, Vol 55, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I enjoy receiving the list via email. I prefer not to tie myself to a single platform. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:55 PM, wrote: > Send microsound mailing list submissions to > microsound at or8.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > microsound-request at or8.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > microsound-owner at or8.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of microsound digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New Elementary Signal Engine sequence video (Pereshaped) > 2. Re: New Elementary Signal Engine sequence video (Dara Shayda) > 3. .microsound on Facebook (Kim Cascone) > 4. Re: .microsound on Facebook (John Hopkins) > 5. Re: .microsound on Facebook (port.a.life at gmail.com) > 6. {Definitely Spam?} Re: .microsound on Facebook (Mika Martini) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:19:46 +0100 > From: Pereshaped > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: [microsound] New Elementary Signal Engine sequence video > Message-ID: > vheQFDtQfd9JnJpoXZAKQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Following on from my message some weeks ago about The Elementary Signal > Engine, I have uploaded a Vimeo of a composition morph sequence testing the > ESE sequencer. Release date for the instrument is still end of January and > will be free. > > https://vimeo.com/84474210 > > The manual for the ESE is also beginning to appear on my blog so if you > want to keep informed you are welcome to follow it. > > http://perevillez.wordpress.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://or8.net/pipermail/microsound/attachments/20140118/59ea9a7a/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:40:51 +0000 > From: Dara Shayda > To: microsound at microsound.org > Subject: Re: [microsound] New Elementary Signal Engine sequence video > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank you for sharing, as always kool > > > On 2014-01-18, at 9:19 PM, Pereshaped wrote: > > > Following on from my message some weeks ago about The Elementary Signal > Engine, I have uploaded a Vimeo of a composition morph sequence testing the > ESE sequencer. Release date for the instrument is still end of January and > will be free. > > > > https://vimeo.com/84474210 > > > > The manual for the ESE is also beginning to appear on my blog so if you > want to keep informed you are welcome to follow it. > > > > http://perevillez.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > microsound mailing list > > microsound at microsound.org > > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://or8.net/pipermail/microsound/attachments/20140120/33fe6776/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:15:08 -0800 > From: Kim Cascone > To: microsound_list , Microsound Announce > > Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook > Message-ID: <52DD67AC.70105 at anechoicmedia.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear .microsounders, > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > communication, i.e. the email list, has become antiquated. > > If you are on Facebook I think it might be a good idea to migrate to the > .microsound group there since you can post media directly to the page -- > which makes sense since we are a media-oriented community. > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/ > > anyway, hope everyone is doing well in this new year > > ciao! > kim > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:39:31 -0700 > From: John Hopkins > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook > Message-ID: <52DD6D63.1070200 at tech-no-mad.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > communication, i.e. > > the email list, has become antiquated. > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from > a vast > majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an early > adopter for > many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time network performance > artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my account for a > variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting policies and the > insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of course, one can argue > that the > NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing > the > same thing... > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps > the only > one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a > life-time, and > dinosaurs do die... > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > Cheers, > JOhn > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > photographer, media artist, archivist > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:54:12 -0500 > From: port.a.life at gmail.com > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook > Message-ID: > < > CAGvuKHqrus+PAXQjuBsPSjAXajt8yz4AaX6Nxb-UWRb0LyjYCQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I think its pretty sad to watch the internet get boiled down to a > homogenized, corp controlled, curated stream of stream of nonsense just so > analytics can be datamined.... what ever happened to by the people for the > people. Its funny how FB is getting more and more noisy and staticy but no > one will make a good alternative because everyone else is using it. That > seems like a faulty logic. On the flip side, FB does make curated group > conversation with fully re-post-able media easy to use and quick to > consume... Oh what a world we live in.... > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:39 PM, John Hopkins >wrote: > > > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > > > > > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > >> communication, i.e. > >> the email list, has become antiquated. > >> > > > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from > > a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an > early > > adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time > network > > performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my > > account for a variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting > > policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of > course, > > one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares > > about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... > > > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps > > the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has > a > > life-time, and dinosaurs do die... > > > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > > > Cheers, > > JOhn > > -- > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > > photographer, media artist, archivist > > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > microsound mailing list > > microsound at microsound.org > > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://or8.net/pipermail/microsound/attachments/20140120/c184ecba/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:55:31 -0800 (PST) > From: Mika Martini > To: "microsound at microsound.org" , > "jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net" > Subject: [microsound] {Definitely Spam?} Re: .microsound on Facebook > Message-ID: > <1390244131.60559.YahooMailNeo at web141505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > facebook no!, short. > > "cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted!" I agree. > ? > Mika Martini aka Frank Benkho > Director Pueblo Nuevo Netlabel > -------------------------------------------------- > www.pueblonuevo.cl > www.twitter.com/mikamartini > www.soundcloud.com/frankbenkho > -------------------------------------------------- > (Nota: el contenido de este email es confidencial, por favor no lo > replique en ninguna red social sin mi autorizacion. / This email is > confidential, please do not publish it at facebook, twitter or any social > media without my agreement) > > > ________________________________ > De: John Hopkins > Para: microsound at or8.net > Enviado: Lunes, 20 de enero, 2014 15:39:31 > Asunto: Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook > > > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > communication, i.e. > > the email list, has become antiquated. > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from > a vast > majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an early > adopter for > many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time network performance > artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my account for a > variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting policies and the > insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of course, one can argue > that the > NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing > the > same thing... > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps > the only > one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\? Everything has a > life-time, and > dinosaurs do die... > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > Cheers, > JOhn > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > photographer, media artist, archivist > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://or8.net/pipermail/microsound/attachments/20140120/895c08a6/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > End of microsound Digest, Vol 55, Issue 3 > ***************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From music at johndenosky.com Mon Jan 20 14:17:59 2014 From: music at johndenosky.com (John DeNosky) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:17:59 -0600 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: I must be honest, assuming there's others here like me, I still enjoy the knowledge, perspectives, and creativity of this email list, even though I may not have time to post or reply, like I wish. I don't mind either format, though, however, If it ain't broke... :) Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > > Dear .microsounders, > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of communication, i.e. the email list, has become antiquated. > > If you are on Facebook I think it might be a good idea to migrate to the .microsound group there since you can post media directly to the page -- which makes sense since we are a media-oriented community. > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/ > > anyway, hope everyone is doing well in this new year > > ciao! > kim > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From music at johndenosky.com Mon Jan 20 14:17:59 2014 From: music at johndenosky.com (John DeNosky) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:17:59 -0600 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: I must be honest, assuming there's others here like me, I still enjoy the knowledge, perspectives, and creativity of this email list, even though I may not have time to post or reply, like I wish. I don't mind either format, though, however, If it ain't broke... :) Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > > Dear .microsounders, > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of communication, i.e. the email list, has become antiquated. > > If you are on Facebook I think it might be a good idea to migrate to the .microsound group there since you can post media directly to the page -- which makes sense since we are a media-oriented community. > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/microsound/ > > anyway, hope everyone is doing well in this new year > > ciao! > kim > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From dara1339 at hotmail.com Mon Jan 20 14:29:05 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:29:05 +0000 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: I agree with John and the rest of appreciative posters. If original music was the voice for individual expression, Facebook Google and the rest of the spy-agencies criminally funded by the mislead public money, is the death of individuation specially in USA. I post here regularly and I know no gain will come to my person, but it is of paramount importance that INDIVIDUALS in Microsound discuss new compositional techniques as opposed to Facebook herds prodded by invisible men and women, kowtowing to super rich, pushing the herd towards fascistic retail music. I am more than willing to pay a monthly fee for Microsound to post my work here and enjoy the companionship of many brilliant minds and refined souls here. The loss of communities like Microsound to me is clear indication of rise of fascism in most unlikely societies e.g. USA. Therefore this is beyond a discussion group for original music, this is for the sake of our individuality. The On 2014-01-20, at 6:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of communication, i.e. >> the email list, has become antiquated. > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a life-time, and dinosaurs do die... > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > Cheers, > JOhn > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > photographer, media artist, archivist > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From dsilvani at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 14:38:08 2014 From: dsilvani at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RGFtacOhbiBTLg==?=) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:38:08 -0200 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: +1 to keep this mailing list Even if it's not my case, I know of a lot of people that don't have profiles there because of privacy issues with it, and would be left out :-/ On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: > I agree with John and the rest of appreciative posters. > > If original music was the voice for individual expression, Facebook Google > and the rest of the spy-agencies criminally funded by the mislead public > money, is the death of individuation specially in USA. > > I post here regularly and I know no gain will come to my person, but it is > of paramount importance that INDIVIDUALS in Microsound discuss new > compositional techniques as opposed to Facebook herds prodded by invisible > men and women, kowtowing to super rich, pushing the herd towards fascistic > retail music. > > I am more than willing to pay a monthly fee for Microsound to post my work > here and enjoy the companionship of many brilliant minds and refined souls > here. > > The loss of communities like Microsound to me is clear indication of rise > of fascism in most unlikely societies e.g. USA. Therefore this is beyond a > discussion group for original music, this is for the sake of our > individuality. > > The > > On 2014-01-20, at 6:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > > > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > > > >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > communication, i.e. > >> the email list, has become antiquated. > > > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen > from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an > early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time > network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then > closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their > data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their > way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything > anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... > > > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps > the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a > life-time, and dinosaurs do die... > > > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > > > Cheers, > > JOhn > > -- > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > > photographer, media artist, archivist > > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > > microsound mailing list > > microsound at microsound.org > > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wshngmchne at yahoo.com Mon Jan 20 14:42:14 2014 From: wshngmchne at yahoo.com (adam kalled) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:42:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [microsound] {Definitely Spam?} Re: .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: <1390246934.44207.YahooMailNeo@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Facebook, Google+ and the like are boring and I'm never on them. I enjoy the weird noise art in my email please.. Ak On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:29 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: I agree with John and the rest of appreciative posters. If original music was the voice for individual expression, Facebook Google and the rest of the spy-agencies criminally funded by the mislead public money, is the death of individuation specially in USA. I post here regularly and I know no gain will come to my person, but it is of paramount importance that INDIVIDUALS in Microsound discuss new compositional techniques as opposed to Facebook herds prodded by invisible men and women, kowtowing to super rich, pushing the herd towards fascistic retail music. I am more than willing to pay a monthly fee for Microsound to post my work here and enjoy the companionship of many brilliant minds and refined souls here. The loss of communities like Microsound? to me is clear indication of rise of fascism in most unlikely societies e.g. USA. Therefore this is beyond a discussion group for original music, this is for the sake of our individuality. The On 2014-01-20, at 6:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of communication, i.e. >> the email list, has become antiquated. > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\? Everything has a life-time, and dinosaurs do die... > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > Cheers, > JOhn > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > photographer, media artist, archivist > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From port.a.life at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 14:44:43 2014 From: port.a.life at gmail.com (port.a.life at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:44:43 -0500 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: What about driving more conversation to the microsound website via a forum platform like https://www.phpbb.com/ or the like. Example: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/ this forum is alive and well and very active. Here here to making microsound stand on its own! - Paul On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Dami?n S. wrote: > +1 to keep this mailing list > > Even if it's not my case, I know of a lot of people that don't have > profiles there because of privacy issues with it, and would be left out :-/ > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: > >> I agree with John and the rest of appreciative posters. >> >> If original music was the voice for individual expression, Facebook >> Google and the rest of the spy-agencies criminally funded by the mislead >> public money, is the death of individuation specially in USA. >> >> I post here regularly and I know no gain will come to my person, but it >> is of paramount importance that INDIVIDUALS in Microsound discuss new >> compositional techniques as opposed to Facebook herds prodded by invisible >> men and women, kowtowing to super rich, pushing the herd towards fascistic >> retail music. >> >> I am more than willing to pay a monthly fee for Microsound to post my >> work here and enjoy the companionship of many brilliant minds and refined >> souls here. >> >> The loss of communities like Microsound to me is clear indication of >> rise of fascism in most unlikely societies e.g. USA. Therefore this is >> beyond a discussion group for original music, this is for the sake of our >> individuality. >> >> The >> >> On 2014-01-20, at 6:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: >> >> > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... >> > >> >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of >> communication, i.e. >> >> the email list, has become antiquated. >> > >> > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen >> from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an >> early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time >> network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then >> closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their >> data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their >> way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything >> anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... >> > >> > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps >> the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a >> life-time, and dinosaurs do die... >> > >> > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > JOhn >> > -- >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD >> > photographer, media artist, archivist >> > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > microsound mailing list >> > microsound at microsound.org >> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe at joelasqo.com Mon Jan 20 15:04:50 2014 From: joe at joelasqo.com (Joe Lasqo) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:04:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: <1390248290.74639.YahooMailNeo@web5801.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Dear ?-sounders - I decline to participate in microsound on a surveillance-company platform like FB or Google+. A less malign platform like https://www.phpbb.com is perhaps worth considering, but as John DeNosky said, "if it ain't broke"? The current email format is working for me... Joe Lasqo joe at joelasqo.com http://www.joelasqo.com/ Show calendar & news:?http://www.joelasqo.com/blog/ Weekly: Viracocha, 21st & Valencia, San Francisco, 3-6pm, Wednesdays Next Up: MSP/Piano ??Renga-kai (???) w Nancy Beckman, Tom Bickley, Rachel Condry, Patti Deuter, Ben Kreith, Sangita Moskow, Dean Santomieri, Jennifer Wilsey, and dancer Nan Busse, Sun 09 Feb, @ SIMM Series,?San Francisco, 7:30pm + Set 2: Eli Wallace Group (w Jon Arkin & Karl Evangelista) @ 8:30pm ________________________________ From: "port.a.life at gmail.com" To: "microsound at microsound.org" Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook What about driving more conversation to the microsound website via a forum platform like https://www.phpbb.com/ or the like. Example:?http://www.gearslutz.com/board/ this forum is alive and well and very active. Here here to making microsound stand on its own! - Paul On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Dami?n S. wrote: +1 to keep this mailing list > > >Even if it's not my case, I know of a lot of people that don't have profiles there because of privacy issues with it, and would be left out :-/ > > > >On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: > >I agree with John and the rest of appreciative posters. >> >>If original music was the voice for individual expression, Facebook Google and the rest of the spy-agencies criminally funded by the mislead public money, is the death of individuation specially in USA. >> >>I post here regularly and I know no gain will come to my person, but it is of paramount importance that INDIVIDUALS in Microsound discuss new compositional techniques as opposed to Facebook herds prodded by invisible men and women, kowtowing to super rich, pushing the herd towards fascistic retail music. >> >>I am more than willing to pay a monthly fee for Microsound to post my work here and enjoy the companionship of many brilliant minds and refined souls here. >> >>The loss of communities like Microsound ?to me is clear indication of rise of fascism in most unlikely societies e.g. USA. Therefore this is beyond a discussion group for original music, this is for the sake of our individuality. >> >>The >> >> >>On 2014-01-20, at 6:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: >> >>> Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... >>> >>>> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of communication, i.e. >>>> the email list, has become antiquated. >>> >>> well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... >>> >>> oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ ?Everything has a life-time, and dinosaurs do die... >>> >>> cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> JOhn >>> -- >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD >>> photographer, media artist, archivist >>> http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> microsound mailing list >>> microsound at microsound.org >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>microsound mailing list >>microsound at microsound.org >>http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > >_______________________________________________ >microsound mailing list >microsound at microsound.org >http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdiedrick at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 15:21:29 2014 From: jdiedrick at gmail.com (Johann Diedrick) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:21:29 -0500 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <1390248290.74639.YahooMailNeo@web5801.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> <1390248290.74639.YahooMailNeo@web5801.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: +1 for keeping the listserv. mails are infrequent, but i much prefer this format than rolling it into another platform (full disclosure i don't have a fb account) On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Joe Lasqo wrote: > Dear ?-sounders - > > I decline to participate in microsound on a surveillance-company platform > like FB or Google+. > > A less malign platform like https://www.phpbb.com is perhaps worth > considering, but as John DeNosky said, "if it ain't broke"? The current > email format is working for me... > > Joe Lasqo > > joe at joelasqo.com > > http://www.joelasqo.com/ > Show calendar & news: http://www.joelasqo.com/blog/ > Weekly: Viracocha, 21st & Valencia, San Francisco, 3-6pm, Wednesdays > > Next Up: MSP/Piano ? *Renga-kai* (*???*) w Nancy *Beckman*, Tom *Bickley*, > Rachel *Condry*, Patti *Deuter*, Ben *Kreith*, Sangita *Moskow*, Dean > *Santomieri*, Jennifer *Wilsey*, and dancer Nan *Busse*, *Sun 09 Feb*, @ > SIMM Series, San Francisco, 7:30pm + Set 2: *Eli Wallace Group* (w Jon > *Arkin* & Karl *Evangelista*) @ 8:30pm > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "port.a.life at gmail.com" > *To:* "microsound at microsound.org" > *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2014 11:44 AM > *Subject:* Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook > > What about driving more conversation to the microsound website via a forum > platform like https://www.phpbb.com/ or the like. Example: > http://www.gearslutz.com/board/ this forum is alive and well and very > active. Here here to making microsound stand on its own! - Paul > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Dami?n S. wrote: > > +1 to keep this mailing list > > Even if it's not my case, I know of a lot of people that don't have > profiles there because of privacy issues with it, and would be left out :-/ > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: > > I agree with John and the rest of appreciative posters. > > If original music was the voice for individual expression, Facebook Google > and the rest of the spy-agencies criminally funded by the mislead public > money, is the death of individuation specially in USA. > > I post here regularly and I know no gain will come to my person, but it is > of paramount importance that INDIVIDUALS in Microsound discuss new > compositional techniques as opposed to Facebook herds prodded by invisible > men and women, kowtowing to super rich, pushing the herd towards fascistic > retail music. > > I am more than willing to pay a monthly fee for Microsound to post my work > here and enjoy the companionship of many brilliant minds and refined souls > here. > > The loss of communities like Microsound to me is clear indication of rise > of fascism in most unlikely societies e.g. USA. Therefore this is beyond a > discussion group for original music, this is for the sake of our > individuality. > > The > > On 2014-01-20, at 6:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > > > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > > > >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > communication, i.e. > >> the email list, has become antiquated. > > > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen > from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an > early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time > network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then > closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their > data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their > way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything > anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... > > > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps > the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a > life-time, and dinosaurs do die... > > > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > > > Cheers, > > JOhn > > -- > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > > photographer, media artist, archivist > > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > > microsound mailing list > > microsound at microsound.org > > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From port.a.life at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 15:22:21 2014 From: port.a.life at gmail.com (port.a.life at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:22:21 -0500 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <1390248290.74639.YahooMailNeo@web5801.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> <1390248290.74639.YahooMailNeo@web5801.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I see facebook more as a replacement for the announce list, it has its place I guess... though its just endless scrolling of post spam already.... No real discussion happening. Just people pasting links to youtube and bandcamp to try to drive traffic.... whatever, its kool.... but to me FB is boring... let's talk about why we need to consume so much content, It seems like FB has made everyone lazy that is seeking creative content and connection. What a poor substitute it really is for creativity when I think about it. I have fallen into the trap, and daily think about killing my account, but why haven't I done it yet? I don't quite know the full answer. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Joe Lasqo wrote: > Dear ?-sounders - > > I decline to participate in microsound on a surveillance-company platform > like FB or Google+. > > A less malign platform like https://www.phpbb.com is perhaps worth > considering, but as John DeNosky said, "if it ain't broke"? The current > email format is working for me... > > Joe Lasqo > > joe at joelasqo.com > > http://www.joelasqo.com/ > Show calendar & news: http://www.joelasqo.com/blog/ > Weekly: Viracocha, 21st & Valencia, San Francisco, 3-6pm, Wednesdays > > Next Up: MSP/Piano ? *Renga-kai* (*???*) w Nancy *Beckman*, Tom *Bickley*, > Rachel *Condry*, Patti *Deuter*, Ben *Kreith*, Sangita *Moskow*, Dean > *Santomieri*, Jennifer *Wilsey*, and dancer Nan *Busse*, *Sun 09 Feb*, @ > SIMM Series, San Francisco, 7:30pm + Set 2: *Eli Wallace Group* (w Jon > *Arkin* & Karl *Evangelista*) @ 8:30pm > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "port.a.life at gmail.com" > *To:* "microsound at microsound.org" > *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2014 11:44 AM > *Subject:* Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook > > What about driving more conversation to the microsound website via a forum > platform like https://www.phpbb.com/ or the like. Example: > http://www.gearslutz.com/board/ this forum is alive and well and very > active. Here here to making microsound stand on its own! - Paul > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Dami?n S. wrote: > > +1 to keep this mailing list > > Even if it's not my case, I know of a lot of people that don't have > profiles there because of privacy issues with it, and would be left out :-/ > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: > > I agree with John and the rest of appreciative posters. > > If original music was the voice for individual expression, Facebook Google > and the rest of the spy-agencies criminally funded by the mislead public > money, is the death of individuation specially in USA. > > I post here regularly and I know no gain will come to my person, but it is > of paramount importance that INDIVIDUALS in Microsound discuss new > compositional techniques as opposed to Facebook herds prodded by invisible > men and women, kowtowing to super rich, pushing the herd towards fascistic > retail music. > > I am more than willing to pay a monthly fee for Microsound to post my work > here and enjoy the companionship of many brilliant minds and refined souls > here. > > The loss of communities like Microsound to me is clear indication of rise > of fascism in most unlikely societies e.g. USA. Therefore this is beyond a > discussion group for original music, this is for the sake of our > individuality. > > The > > On 2014-01-20, at 6:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > > > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > > > >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > communication, i.e. > >> the email list, has become antiquated. > > > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen > from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an > early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time > network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then > closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their > data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their > way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything > anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... > > > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps > the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a > life-time, and dinosaurs do die... > > > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > > > Cheers, > > JOhn > > -- > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD > > photographer, media artist, archivist > > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > > microsound mailing list > > microsound at microsound.org > > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From watchcontact at googlemail.com Mon Jan 20 16:17:06 2014 From: watchcontact at googlemail.com (Manuel Pinheiro) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:17:06 +0000 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> <1390248290.74639.YahooMailNeo@web5801.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone! Even though I?m a silent follower of the microsound email list, and have been for some years now, the end of it would be a shame. I do not and will not have a facebook account. Cheers and happy new year On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:22 PM, wrote: > I see facebook more as a replacement for the announce list, it has its > place I guess... though its just endless scrolling of post spam already.... > No real discussion happening. Just people pasting links to youtube and > bandcamp to try to drive traffic.... whatever, its kool.... but to me FB is > boring... let's talk about why we need to consume so much content, It > seems like FB has made everyone lazy that is seeking creative content and > connection. What a poor substitute it really is for creativity when I think > about it. I have fallen into the trap, and daily think about killing my > account, but why haven't I done it yet? I don't quite know the full answer. > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Joe Lasqo wrote: > >> Dear ?-sounders - >> >> I decline to participate in microsound on a surveillance-company platform >> like FB or Google+. >> >> A less malign platform like https://www.phpbb.com is perhaps worth >> considering, but as John DeNosky said, "if it ain't broke"? The current >> email format is working for me... >> >> Joe Lasqo >> >> joe at joelasqo.com >> >> http://www.joelasqo.com/ >> Show calendar & news: http://www.joelasqo.com/blog/ >> Weekly: Viracocha, 21st & Valencia, San Francisco, 3-6pm, Wednesdays >> >> Next Up: MSP/Piano ? *Renga-kai* (*???*) w Nancy *Beckman*, Tom *Bickley*, >> Rachel *Condry*, Patti *Deuter*, Ben *Kreith*, Sangita *Moskow*, Dean >> *Santomieri*, Jennifer *Wilsey*, and dancer Nan *Busse*, *Sun 09 Feb*, @ >> SIMM Series, San Francisco, 7:30pm + Set 2: *Eli Wallace Group* (w Jon >> *Arkin* & Karl *Evangelista*) @ 8:30pm >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* "port.a.life at gmail.com" >> *To:* "microsound at microsound.org" >> *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2014 11:44 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook >> >> What about driving more conversation to the microsound website via a >> forum platform like https://www.phpbb.com/ or the like. Example: >> http://www.gearslutz.com/board/ this forum is alive and well and very >> active. Here here to making microsound stand on its own! - Paul >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Dami?n S. wrote: >> >> +1 to keep this mailing list >> >> Even if it's not my case, I know of a lot of people that don't have >> profiles there because of privacy issues with it, and would be left out :-/ >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Dara Shayda wrote: >> >> I agree with John and the rest of appreciative posters. >> >> If original music was the voice for individual expression, Facebook >> Google and the rest of the spy-agencies criminally funded by the mislead >> public money, is the death of individuation specially in USA. >> >> I post here regularly and I know no gain will come to my person, but it >> is of paramount importance that INDIVIDUALS in Microsound discuss new >> compositional techniques as opposed to Facebook herds prodded by invisible >> men and women, kowtowing to super rich, pushing the herd towards fascistic >> retail music. >> >> I am more than willing to pay a monthly fee for Microsound to post my >> work here and enjoy the companionship of many brilliant minds and refined >> souls here. >> >> The loss of communities like Microsound to me is clear indication of >> rise of fascism in most unlikely societies e.g. USA. Therefore this is >> beyond a discussion group for original music, this is for the sake of our >> individuality. >> >> The >> >> On 2014-01-20, at 6:39 PM, John Hopkins wrote: >> >> > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... >> > >> >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of >> communication, i.e. >> >> the email list, has become antiquated. >> > >> > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen >> from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As an >> early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and long-time >> network performance artist), I checked out FB between 2006-11 and then >> closed my account for a variety of reasons -- including their >> data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one do everything 'their >> way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is collecting everything >> anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the same thing... >> > >> > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps >> the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has a >> life-time, and dinosaurs do die... >> > >> > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > JOhn >> > -- >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD >> > photographer, media artist, archivist >> > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > microsound mailing list >> > microsound at microsound.org >> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -- Manuel Pinheiro Diabo na Cruz | You Can`t Win Charlie Brown | Tv Rural | Batida Real Combo Lisbonense | Flume | Vitorino Voador | Pedro Puppe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe it will refresh our communication in a way which we all are comfortable with. During my exam last year this mailing list gives me great input, so i really hope the communication continue in the same way. Happy new year to you all. Best whishes from Germany! Alex 2014/1/20 Kim Cascone > I understand the reluctance to migrate to FB - but this list is *not* > going to stop > it will continue in its present form - so please feel free to use it > instead of FB > no worries! > > I just wanted to invite people who might be on FB to join the FB > .microsound page > > just a heads up > kim > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Alex 2014/1/20 Kim Cascone > I understand the reluctance to migrate to FB - but this list is *not* > going to stop > it will continue in its present form - so please feel free to use it > instead of FB > no worries! > > I just wanted to invite people who might be on FB to join the FB > .microsound page > > just a heads up > kim > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian at ian-andrews.org Mon Jan 20 17:11:01 2014 From: ian at ian-andrews.org (Ian Andrews) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:11:01 +1100 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: <52DD9EF5.2010801@ian-andrews.org> I'm not on FB and don't intend to be. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who thinks this way. Good to hear from other dissenters. I totally share your views John. I'm glad the list continues on. cheers, Ian On 21/01/2014 5:39 am, John Hopkins wrote: > Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... > >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of >> communication, i.e. >> the email list, has become antiquated. > > well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen > from a vast majority of public conversations. I think it is a pity. As > an early adopter for many years (and as a 'new media' educator and > long-time network performance artist), I checked out FB between > 2006-11 and then closed my account for a variety of reasons -- > including their data-harvesting policies and the insistence that one > do everything 'their way'. Of course, one can argue that the NSA is > collecting everything anyway, so who cares about Zuckerberg doing the > same thing... > > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, > perhaps the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ > Everything has a life-time, and dinosaurs do die... > > cheers, and the conversation has been nice while it lasted! > > Cheers, > JOhn From bbrace at eskimo.com Mon Jan 20 17:40:16 2014 From: bbrace at eskimo.com ({ brad brace }) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:40:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [microsound] now playing on the darknet In-Reply-To: <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: new rips: np (usually only the google-bot is listening) NOW PLAYING: ~~~ ~~~~~~~ remarkably harmonious grog ballads (live Fijian village kava songs) interspersed with recorded Christian/pop plus staid, unaccompanied Methodist hymns and feverish ANC (All Nations) open-air church services with petrol-generator-amplified keyboard on Waya Island, Fiji plus a thunderous stay in the Lautoka 'mainland' Seabreeze Motel 2011/12 -- all mono recordings; the latter using a splitter between bathroom/courtyard window mics and a tiny $7 radio broadcast http://69.64.229.114:8000 estranged recordings from behind a Scentimental rose bush at Portland International Rose Test Gardens, Oregon, USA, July 4, 2011. Hoards of nattering, socially-engineered, endangered middle-class visitors take photos of each other, and smell the genetically-designed roses. One, two, three. A reggae band performs a sound-check in the background. Scentimental was also a Mel Blanc cartoon featuring Pepe LePew and Penelope Pussycat. "Vive l'amour! We die together." [also at archive.org/bbrace] over 80 days' [suspended during the tsunami: the two main actors appeared in split-screen and encouraged the people to persevere] -- episodes of a Japanese TV soap-opera -- to accompany the show's opening/integrated theme music, with soaring/plaintive violins; each day there's a wonderful new montage of Okinawans enacting this typical illustrative dance -- it's a great 15-minute production that's very popular and repeats a few times daily, but maybe only on the southern islands... five-hour recordings of/on the polar bear express train to moosonee, ontario: gateway to the canadian arctic recent compilations of grenadines (west indies) radio programming (parang season!) latest release: LBOSPI recordings field-compilations from Lake Brule, Oil Springs and Peele Island ___ ___ ___ over 13 hours of fresh mp3 rips of long reticent monoaural, radio-drifts?, soup kitchens, police sirens, and forgotten film-soundtracks --- bbs: brad brace sound --- --- http://69.64.229.114:8000 --- --- http://bbrace.net/undisclosed.html --- ? strangely compelling recordings from car radio while travelling under high-frequency transmission lines in central california --- bbs: brad brace sound --- --- http://69.64.229.114:8000 --- --- http://bradbrace.net/undisclosed.html --- The Global Islands Project: http://www.archive.org/details/global_islands_project_island_1.0 http://www.archive.org/details/global_islands_project_island_2.0 http://www.archive.org/details/global_islands_project_island_3.0 http://www.archive.org/details/global_islands_project_island_4.0 http://www.archive.org/details/global_islands_project_island_5.0 http://www.archive.org/details/global_islands_project_island_6.0 http://www.archive.org/details/global_islands_project_island_7.0 http://www.archive.org/details/global_islands_project_island_8.0 Global Islands Project -- ongoing series of multi-media pdf-books -- a pastoral, pictorial and phonic elicitation of island parameters... http://www.bbrace.net/id.html http://bradbrace.net/id.html enjoy! /:b From nathanpalinkas at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 17:56:07 2014 From: nathanpalinkas at gmail.com (Nathan Palinkas) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:56:07 -0400 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD9EF5.2010801@ian-andrews.org> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> <52DD9EF5.2010801@ian-andrews.org> Message-ID: Although I'm fairly new to the mailing list, I still find it a relevant form of communication. Although I don't talk too much, aside from maybe posting a bit of my own music for critique, or for feedback on others, I feel that the microsound mailing list serves as an interesting read. However, I would not be averse to having a FB group as well. Still, I can't help but think that this list was way more active and informative back in its earlier years. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Ian Andrews wrote: > I'm not on FB and don't intend to be. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only > one who thinks this way. Good to hear from other dissenters. > I totally share your views John. > I'm glad the list continues on. > > cheers, > > Ian > > > On 21/01/2014 5:39 am, John Hopkins wrote: > >> Hei Kim & fellow microsounders... >> >> Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of >>> communication, i.e. >>> the email list, has become antiquated. >>> >> >> well, it is definitely a reality that FaceBook has sucked the oxygen from >> a vast majority of public conversations. 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Best whishes from Germany! > > Alex > > > 2014/1/20 Kim Cascone > >> I understand the reluctance to migrate to FB - but this list is *not* >> going to stop >> it will continue in its present form - so please feel free to use it >> instead of FB >> no worries! >> >> I just wanted to invite people who might be on FB to join the FB >> .microsound page >> >> just a heads up >> kim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best whishes from Germany! > > Alex > > > 2014/1/20 Kim Cascone > >> I understand the reluctance to migrate to FB - but this list is *not* >> going to stop >> it will continue in its present form - so please feel free to use it >> instead of FB >> no worries! >> >> I just wanted to invite people who might be on FB to join the FB >> .microsound page >> >> just a heads up >> kim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danalogue at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 18:46:35 2014 From: danalogue at gmail.com (Dan Graham) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:46:35 -0800 Subject: [microsound] FB redux In-Reply-To: References: <52DD966E.9030504@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: (Sorry, this !@#$ phone) It is true that Facebook, as of more recently, has been a more effective platform for me in both discovering new music that interests me, as well as providing a forum for my ideas that seems to generate more immediate feedback, albeit without any real intellectual and honest discussion (where on .microsound there is some). However, in the past, I found quite a lot of interesting and wonderful music sifting through the various projects that .microsound has hosted - pi, bufferfuct, etc. - and it was very stimulating to be a part of them as well. This is where I feel lies the true benefit of .microsound, as it brings people together for a mass collaboration while at the same time leaving a nice little archived legacy for others to discover. I know that .microsound projects don't always yield a descent turnout of participants, but when they do, it is so worth it! So, please keep the projects coming...you never know if we may have something that will be as substantial and successful as, say, the 'parasite' project was - a great collection of material there, to be sure. Sincerely, Dan On Jan 20, 2014 3:12 PM, "Dan Graham" wrote: > I joined .microsound because I like to find out about as much new and > interesting digital electronic computer -oriented music as I possibly can, > as well as have a forum for sharing stuff that I come up with in an > immediate way. It is true that Facebook > On Jan 20, 2014 1:53 PM, "Alexander Thesing" > wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> sounds like an compromise. The good thing is that this mailing list >> returns to our memories alongside this discussion. Maybe it will refresh >> our communication in a way which we all are comfortable with. >> >> During my exam last year this mailing list gives me great input, so i >> really hope the communication continue in the same way. >> >> Happy new year to you all. Best whishes from Germany! >> >> Alex >> >> >> 2014/1/20 Kim Cascone >> >>> I understand the reluctance to migrate to FB - but this list is *not* >>> going to stop >>> it will continue in its present form - so please feel free to use it >>> instead of FB >>> no worries! >>> >>> I just wanted to invite people who might be on FB to join the FB >>> .microsound page >>> >>> just a heads up >>> kim >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> microsound mailing list >>> microsound at microsound.org >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is where I feel lies the true benefit of .microsound, as it brings people together for a mass collaboration while at the same time leaving a nice little archived legacy for others to discover. I know that .microsound projects don't always yield a descent turnout of participants, but when they do, it is so worth it! So, please keep the projects coming...you never know if we may have something that will be as substantial and successful as, say, the 'parasite' project was - a great collection of material there, to be sure. Sincerely, Dan On Jan 20, 2014 3:12 PM, "Dan Graham" wrote: > I joined .microsound because I like to find out about as much new and > interesting digital electronic computer -oriented music as I possibly can, > as well as have a forum for sharing stuff that I come up with in an > immediate way. It is true that Facebook > On Jan 20, 2014 1:53 PM, "Alexander Thesing" > wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> sounds like an compromise. The good thing is that this mailing list >> returns to our memories alongside this discussion. Maybe it will refresh >> our communication in a way which we all are comfortable with. >> >> During my exam last year this mailing list gives me great input, so i >> really hope the communication continue in the same way. >> >> Happy new year to you all. Best whishes from Germany! >> >> Alex >> >> >> 2014/1/20 Kim Cascone >> >>> I understand the reluctance to migrate to FB - but this list is *not* >>> going to stop >>> it will continue in its present form - so please feel free to use it >>> instead of FB >>> no worries! >>> >>> I just wanted to invite people who might be on FB to join the FB >>> .microsound page >>> >>> just a heads up >>> kim >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> microsound mailing list >>> microsound at microsound.org >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roger at eartrumpet.org Mon Jan 20 19:05:03 2014 From: roger at eartrumpet.org (Roger Mills) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:05:03 +1100 Subject: [microsound] FB redux In-Reply-To: References: <52DD966E.9030504@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <2ED9C1D6-6D9E-47E1-BC7D-DB4C8F22DC3F@eartrumpet.org> Well the list hasn't been this active in a while.. There have been so many valid points made and although I use FB, I think it would be a shame to exclude those who don't. Unlike some it seems, I also enjoy the announce list for looking at the sort of events that people are putting on and engaging with..posting their mixes The occasional spam doesn't deter me, and posting media is just a link way..we don't need to see a thumbnail.. In my mind, it is up to us as a community to keep it active rather than complain at its demise... Roger On 21/01/2014, at 10:46 AM, Dan Graham wrote: > (Sorry, this !@#$ phone) > > It is true that Facebook, as of more recently, has been a more effective platform for me in both discovering new music that interests me, as well as providing a forum for my ideas that seems to generate more immediate feedback, albeit without any real intellectual and honest discussion (where on .microsound there is some). > > However, in the past, I found quite a lot of interesting and wonderful music sifting through the various projects that .microsound has hosted - pi, bufferfuct, etc. - and it was very stimulating to be a part of them as well. This is where I feel lies the true benefit of .microsound, as it brings people together for a mass collaboration while at the same time leaving a nice little archived legacy for others to discover. > > I know that .microsound projects don't always yield a descent turnout of participants, but when they do, it is so worth it! > > So, please keep the projects coming...you never know if we may have something that will be as substantial and successful as, say, the 'parasite' project was - a great collection of material there, to be sure. > > Sincerely, > Dan > On Jan 20, 2014 3:12 PM, "Dan Graham" wrote: > I joined .microsound because I like to find out about as much new and interesting digital electronic computer -oriented music as I possibly can, as well as have a forum for sharing stuff that I come up with in an immediate way. It is true that Facebook > > On Jan 20, 2014 1:53 PM, "Alexander Thesing" wrote: > Hey all, > > sounds like an compromise. The good thing is that this mailing list returns to our memories alongside this discussion. Maybe it will refresh our communication in a way which we all are comfortable with. > > During my exam last year this mailing list gives me great input, so i really hope the communication continue in the same way. > > Happy new year to you all. Best whishes from Germany! > > Alex > > > 2014/1/20 Kim Cascone > I understand the reluctance to migrate to FB - but this list is *not* going to stop > it will continue in its present form - so please feel free to use it instead of FB > no worries! > > I just wanted to invite people who might be on FB to join the FB .microsound page > > just a heads up > kim > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dara1339 at hotmail.com Mon Jan 20 19:37:13 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 00:37:13 +0000 Subject: [microsound] FB redux In-Reply-To: <2ED9C1D6-6D9E-47E1-BC7D-DB4C8F22DC3F@eartrumpet.org> References: <52DD966E.9030504@anechoicmedia.com> <2ED9C1D6-6D9E-47E1-BC7D-DB4C8F22DC3F@eartrumpet.org> Message-ID: In early 90s the promise of Internet was MASS-CUSTOMIZATION, now it is reduced to MASS-AGGREGATION which was the old model of media monopolies in 1960s. So we are conditioned to believe, that a site with more members or hits is a terrific site, superior to others with lesser traffic. As an example the tiny traffic here is wonderful, every couple of weeks some genius posts an awesome work of music or related techs. Why do I want a social group which is nothing more than HMV or MTV in a browser. I prefer little traffic of very smart capable people with ground-breaking ideas in composition of music and acoustics electronics and software. D On 2014-01-21, at 12:05 AM, Roger Mills wrote: > Well the list hasn't been this active in a while.. > > There have been so many valid points made and although I use FB, I think it would be a shame to exclude those who don't. > Unlike some it seems, I also enjoy the announce list for looking at the sort of events that people are putting on and engaging with..posting their mixes > The occasional spam doesn't deter me, and posting media is just a link way..we don't need to see a thumbnail.. > > In my mind, it is up to us as a community to keep it active rather than complain at its demise... > > Roger > > On 21/01/2014, at 10:46 AM, Dan Graham wrote: > >> (Sorry, this !@#$ phone) >> >> It is true that Facebook, as of more recently, has been a more effective platform for me in both discovering new music that interests me, as well as providing a forum for my ideas that seems to generate more immediate feedback, albeit without any real intellectual and honest discussion (where on .microsound there is some). >> >> However, in the past, I found quite a lot of interesting and wonderful music sifting through the various projects that .microsound has hosted - pi, bufferfuct, etc. - and it was very stimulating to be a part of them as well. This is where I feel lies the true benefit of .microsound, as it brings people together for a mass collaboration while at the same time leaving a nice little archived legacy for others to discover. >> >> I know that .microsound projects don't always yield a descent turnout of participants, but when they do, it is so worth it! >> >> So, please keep the projects coming...you never know if we may have something that will be as substantial and successful as, say, the 'parasite' project was - a great collection of material there, to be sure. >> >> Sincerely, >> Dan >> On Jan 20, 2014 3:12 PM, "Dan Graham" wrote: >> I joined .microsound because I like to find out about as much new and interesting digital electronic computer -oriented music as I possibly can, as well as have a forum for sharing stuff that I come up with in an immediate way. It is true that Facebook >> >> On Jan 20, 2014 1:53 PM, "Alexander Thesing" wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> sounds like an compromise. The good thing is that this mailing list returns to our memories alongside this discussion. Maybe it will refresh our communication in a way which we all are comfortable with. >> >> During my exam last year this mailing list gives me great input, so i really hope the communication continue in the same way. >> >> Happy new year to you all. Best whishes from Germany! >> >> Alex >> >> >> 2014/1/20 Kim Cascone >> I understand the reluctance to migrate to FB - but this list is *not* going to stop >> it will continue in its present form - so please feel free to use it instead of FB >> no worries! >> >> I just wanted to invite people who might be on FB to join the FB .microsound page >> >> just a heads up >> kim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzofsutton at gmail.com Tue Jan 21 04:11:34 2014 From: lorenzofsutton at gmail.com (Lorenzo Sutton) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:11:34 +0100 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <52DE39C6.1030509@gmail.com> On 20/01/2014 19:15, Kim Cascone wrote: > Dear .microsounders, > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > communication, i.e. the email list, has become antiquated. Personally I still follow the list... I must admit that lately I tend to skip posts as the original distinction between microsounda-announce (links to people's work etc.) and microsound has blurred... so that the discussion seems to have thinned. I do have a Facebook account, but access it very sparsely. I prefer mailing lists to both fora and Facebook groups, as personal taste. As per quantity vs. *quality* of posts I'm not sure switching platform will automatically improve the situation. Sure a Facebook account might generate more traffic / posts, but from a qualitative perspective I'm not sure what the gain will be. Just my opinion. Lorenzo. From phillipthomas at hotmail.com Tue Jan 21 04:32:03 2014 From: phillipthomas at hotmail.com (Phillip Thomas) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:32:03 +0000 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DE39C6.1030509@gmail.com> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com>,<52DE39C6.1030509@gmail.com> Message-ID: And a UK news report on FB today... http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/20/is-facebook-dying-the-uncool-site-we-like-too-much-to-leave-4270948/ > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:11:34 +0100 > From: lorenzofsutton at gmail.com > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook > > On 20/01/2014 19:15, Kim Cascone wrote: > > Dear .microsounders, > > > > Judging from the number of posts it seems like this mode of > > communication, i.e. the email list, has become antiquated. > > Personally I still follow the list... I must admit that lately I tend to > skip posts as the original distinction between microsounda-announce > (links to people's work etc.) and microsound has blurred... so that the > discussion seems to have thinned. > > I do have a Facebook account, but access it very sparsely. I prefer > mailing lists to both fora and Facebook groups, as personal taste. > > As per quantity vs. *quality* of posts I'm not sure switching platform > will automatically improve the situation. Sure a Facebook account might > generate more traffic / posts, but from a qualitative perspective I'm > not sure what the gain will be. > > Just my opinion. > Lorenzo. > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From js0000 at gmail.com Tue Jan 21 10:05:16 2014 From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:05:16 -0500 Subject: [microsound] .microsound on Facebook In-Reply-To: <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> References: <52DD67AC.70105@anechoicmedia.com> <52DD6D63.1070200@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: <52DE8CAC.6070105@gmail.com> hola On 1/20/14, 13:39 , John Hopkins wrote: > oh well, I guess if the mailing list goes away, then I for one, perhaps > the only one, will no longer have a microsonic voice :-\ Everything has > a life-time, and dinosaurs do die... while not meaning to contradict your musings on impermanence, as one of the list admins [the one with the hardware connection], i have no plans to disable it. what may happen is that the hardware is no longer available, but what may happen is that the hardware will stay available for some time to come. i cannot see the future. so, still present and can still be nice. [and quiet sometimes too] -- \js [http://or8.net/~johns/] : i am alive From dara1339 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 25 02:47:10 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:47:10 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Cortical Fugue Message-ID: https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/cortical-fugue A microscopy image of cortical cells was sonified, and " foraged for melodies". MetaSynth was used to sonify the image pixel by pixel, vertically scanned from left. The image was processed by Edge Detection algorithm to remove all but the edges. The result was poly midi-fied by Melodyne, time-stretching and instruments by Logic Pro. Counterpoint arrangements of the final midi output turned a part into a main melody repeated and few other pieces also one chasing after the other in Fugue form, with no restriction on the timing or pitches. Dara From dara1339 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 26 23:57:03 2014 From: dara1339 at hotmail.com (Dara Shayda) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 04:57:03 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Beloved's Fragrance From RXJ1532 Message-ID: https://soundcloud.com/dara-o-shayda/beloveds-fragrance-from-rxj1532 Dara