[microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
derek hales
hales.derek at gmail.com
Thu Oct 6 11:46:05 EDT 2011
microsound: I can't hear a thing
On 6 October 2011 10:42, Laura Mello <lauramello at gmx.at> wrote:
> Hi peoples,
>
> A bit late in the whole discussion, but I read this just 2 days ago:
>
> http://www.taz.de/Ausbeutung-in-neuer-Apple-Fabrik/!79254/
>
> Unfortunately, only in german, but the title means:
> "Exploitation in the new Apple fabric in China" - Islaves produce Iphones.
>
> So I wish next breaking news will cheer the death of some big person who
> dedicated his life to fairness.
>
> Best
> Laura
>
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> 1. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (Michael Mantra)
> 2. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (beatthefinalboss at gmail.com)
> 3. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (norhal el halwagy)
> 4. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (beatthefinalboss at gmail.com)
> 5. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (yugen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 21:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Michael Mantra <michael_mantra at yahoo.com>
> To: microsound at or8.net, microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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> Hey You All,
>
> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a huge
> fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his brain.
> The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable marketing
> skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well. Steve
> Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my students a
> One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I
> have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist.
> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not need
> us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then this
> year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups. Since
> the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe. And
> the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed they
> worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional and
> the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go back to
> lurking.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:27:22 -0400
> From: beatthefinalboss at gmail.com
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
> Message-ID:
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>
> You have a point, there :)
>
> But, quoting shakespeare: "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"
> :P
>
> --Stelpa
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:21 AM, yugen <david at yugen-art.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Granular Synthesis and other Microsound techniques are quite a bit older
> > than the Macintosh computer :P
> >
> >
> > that's surely right.
> > but the term microsound was coined by Curtis Roads in his 2001 book, in
> > full-on apple era ;-)
> >
> > ps : i think..........
> >
> > d.
> >
> > *
> > http://www.yugen-art.org
> > twitter : @YugenArt
> > facebook : http://tinyurl.com/YugenArt
> > *
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 00:29:49 -0400
> From: norhal el halwagy <cntrl.alt.del at gmail.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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> and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
> twice. i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write
> them. back into the background for me.
>
>
>
> On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
> > Hey You All,
> >
> > Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a
> huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his
> brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable
> marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well.
> Steve Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my
> students a One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both
> worlds. I have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP
> Evangelist. But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he
> did not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more.
> And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user
> groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or
> with Adobe. And the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who
> claimed they worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they
> told
> > me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional
> and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go
> back to lurking.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:38:54 -0400
> From: beatthefinalboss at gmail.com
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
> Message-ID:
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> >
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> It's fine, lurking is an art form, I would know ;)
>
> --Stelpa
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:29 AM, norhal el halwagy
> <cntrl.alt.del at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
> twice.
> > i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write them. back
> into
> > the background for me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
> >
> >> Hey You All,
> >>
> >> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a
> huge
> >> fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his brain.
> >> The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable
> marketing
> >> skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well.
> Steve
> >> Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my
> students a
> >> One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I
> >> have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP
> Evangelist.
> >> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not
> need
> >> us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then
> this
> >> year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups.
> Since
> >> the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe.
> And
> >> the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed they
> >> worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
> >> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional
> and
> >> the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go
> back to
> >> lurking.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael
> >> ______________________________**_________________
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> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:44:54 +0200
> From: yugen <david at yugen-art.org>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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> hey guys, no problem about that.
> i have already sorted out everything with Norhal in private. i just
> can suggest that you motivate your thinking, as you both did in your
> second emails.
> that may help better understand your point and enrich the discussion
> too. ;-)
>
> take care,
>
> david.
>
>
> > and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
> > twice. i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write
> > them. back into the background for me.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
> >> Hey You All,
> >>
> >> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be
> >> a huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer
> >> rotted his brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had
> >> some remarkable marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad
> >> marketing moves as well. Steve Wozniak was the true electronics
> >> whiz. I always advocated to my students a One Mac and One PC
> >> philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I have been
> >> using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist.
> >> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did
> >> not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any
> >> more. And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it
> >> to the FCP user groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user
> >> group is going Avid or with Adobe. And the straw that broke the
> >> camels back was meeting people who claimed they worked directly
> >> with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
> >> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and
> >> unprofessional and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get
> >> off my soap box and go back to lurking.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> microsound mailing list
> >> microsound at microsound.org
> >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
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> http://www.yugen-art.org
> twitter : @YugenArt
> facebook : http://tinyurl.com/YugenArt
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