[microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
Marco Donnarumma
devel at thesaddj.com
Thu Oct 6 08:38:19 EDT 2011
Also the creation of the Atomic Bomb greatly contributed to the world of
science and technology.
(I know this sound provocative, but I care about how bad a person was and
I'm not childishly saying he was THE EVIL.. Anyway, apologies.)
M
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:11 PM, <beatthefinalboss at gmail.com> wrote:
> He was the leader of a large company. So large, that he most likely
> didn't control such things (They may have been handled by
> a separate department). Also, a death should never be "cheered', no matter
> how bad the person was, and this person, even if they did some bad things,
> also contributed very much to the world of technology.
>
> --Stelpa
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Laura Mello <lauramello at gmx.at> wrote:
>
>> Hi peoples,
>>
>> A bit late in the whole discussion, but I read this just 2 days ago:
>>
>> http://www.taz.de/Ausbeutung-in-neuer-Apple-Fabrik/!79254/
>>
>> Unfortunately, only in german, but the title means:
>> "Exploitation in the new Apple fabric in China" - Islaves produce Iphones.
>>
>> So I wish next breaking news will cheer the death of some big person who
>> dedicated his life to fairness.
>>
>> Best
>> Laura
>>
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>> 1. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (Michael Mantra)
>> 2. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (beatthefinalboss at gmail.com)
>> 3. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (norhal el halwagy)
>> 4. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (beatthefinalboss at gmail.com)
>> 5. Re: RIP Steve Jobs (yugen)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 21:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Michael Mantra <michael_mantra at yahoo.com>
>> To: microsound at or8.net, microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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>>
>> Hey You All,
>>
>> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a huge
>> fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his brain.
>> The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable marketing
>> skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well. Steve
>> Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my students a
>> One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I
>> have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist.
>> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not need
>> us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then this
>> year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups. Since
>> the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe. And
>> the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed they
>> worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional and
>> the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go back to
>> lurking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:27:22 -0400
>> From: beatthefinalboss at gmail.com
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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>> You have a point, there :)
>>
>> But, quoting shakespeare: "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"
>> :P
>>
>> --Stelpa
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:21 AM, yugen <david at yugen-art.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Granular Synthesis and other Microsound techniques are quite a bit older
>> > than the Macintosh computer :P
>> >
>> >
>> > that's surely right.
>> > but the term microsound was coined by Curtis Roads in his 2001 book, in
>> > full-on apple era ;-)
>> >
>> > ps : i think..........
>> >
>> > d.
>> >
>> > *
>> > http://www.yugen-art.org
>> > twitter : @YugenArt
>> > facebook : http://tinyurl.com/YugenArt
>> > *
>> >
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>> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 00:29:49 -0400
>> From: norhal el halwagy <cntrl.alt.del at gmail.com>
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
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>> and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
>> twice. i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write
>> them. back into the background for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>> > Hey You All,
>> >
>> > Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a
>> huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his
>> brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable
>> marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well.
>> Steve Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my
>> students a One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both
>> worlds. I have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP
>> Evangelist. But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he
>> did not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more.
>> And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user
>> groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or
>> with Adobe. And the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who
>> claimed they worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they
>> told
>> > me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional
>> and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go
>> back to lurking.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Michael
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > microsound mailing list
>> > microsound at microsound.org
>> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:38:54 -0400
>> From: beatthefinalboss at gmail.com
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
>> Message-ID:
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>> It's fine, lurking is an art form, I would know ;)
>>
>> --Stelpa
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:29 AM, norhal el halwagy
>> <cntrl.alt.del at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
>> twice.
>> > i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write them. back
>> into
>> > the background for me.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey You All,
>> >>
>> >> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be a
>> huge
>> >> fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer rotted his
>> brain.
>> >> The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had some remarkable
>> marketing
>> >> skills. And he made some remarkably bad marketing moves as well.
>> Steve
>> >> Wozniak was the true electronics whiz. I always advocated to my
>> students a
>> >> One Mac and One PC philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds.
>> I
>> >> have been using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP
>> Evangelist.
>> >> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did not
>> need
>> >> us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any more. And then
>> this
>> >> year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it to the FCP user groups.
>> Since
>> >> the start of this year our FCP user group is going Avid or with Adobe.
>> And
>> >> the straw that broke the camels back was meeting people who claimed
>> they
>> >> worked directly with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>> >> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and unprofessional
>> and
>> >> the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get off my soap box and go
>> back to
>> >> lurking.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Michael
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>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:44:54 +0200
>> From: yugen <david at yugen-art.org>
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Steve Jobs
>> Message-ID: <D98A6CF9-B321-4C40-9F9C-08FE13A51CD4 at yugen-art.org>
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>> hey guys, no problem about that.
>> i have already sorted out everything with Norhal in private. i just
>> can suggest that you motivate your thinking, as you both did in your
>> second emails.
>> that may help better understand your point and enrich the discussion
>> too. ;-)
>>
>> take care,
>>
>> david.
>>
>>
>> > and my apologies for fanning the flames. in 6 years i've only posted
>> > twice. i realize i like it more when i read posts than when i write
>> > them. back into the background for me.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/6/11 12:22 AM, Michael Mantra wrote:
>> >> Hey You All,
>> >>
>> >> Sorry I did not mean to start a flame war here. I used to be
>> >> a huge fan of The Steve until the last few years. The cancer
>> >> rotted his brain. The Steve we knew died years ago. The Steve had
>> >> some remarkable marketing skills. And he made some remarkably bad
>> >> marketing moves as well. Steve Wozniak was the true electronics
>> >> whiz. I always advocated to my students a One Mac and One PC
>> >> philosophy. That way you had best of both worlds. I have been
>> >> using Final Cut Pro for over 11 years. I was an FCP Evangelist.
>> >> But then a couple years ago he told the FCP community that he did
>> >> not need us. And he did not need to make Towers or lap tops any
>> >> more. And then this year FCP X came out and Apple did not show it
>> >> to the FCP user groups. Since the start of this year our FCP user
>> >> group is going Avid or with Adobe. And the straw that broke the
>> >> camels back was meeting people who claimed they worked directly
>> >> with Steve or interviewed with them and they told
>> >> me what he was really like. His behavior was rude and
>> >> unprofessional and the cancer rotted him inside out. I will get
>> >> off my soap box and go back to lurking.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Michael
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> microsound mailing list
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>> http://www.yugen-art.org
>> twitter : @YugenArt
>> facebook : http://tinyurl.com/YugenArt
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