From mis at artengine.ca Thu Oct 7 09:32:26 2010 From: mis at artengine.ca (Michal Seta) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 09:32:26 -0400 Subject: [microsound] Vienna? Message-ID: Hello, I will be in Vienna around October 15 - 29. I welcome any suggestions for places to hang out with interesting music/art. I will be staying right in the MuseumsQuartier so I will be surrounded by art but I would like to know of opinions with regard to places that are not to be missed. If anyone knows of venues that welcome unusual music activities and even some jams/open mic at short notice, I would be particularly grateful. Thanks for any leads. ./MiS From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Thu Oct 7 16:10:47 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 22:10:47 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Vienna? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F64441D-8103-4E6A-862D-F13809523E88@sunrise.ch> the Rhiz (rhiz.org) is supposed to be the place to be. i've never been there, though. kind regards, tobias Am 07.10.2010 um 15:32 schrieb Michal Seta: > Hello, > > I will be in Vienna around October 15 - 29. I welcome any suggestions > for places to hang out with interesting music/art. I will be staying > right in the MuseumsQuartier so I will be surrounded by art but I > would like to know of opinions with regard to places that are not to > be missed. > > If anyone knows of venues that welcome unusual music activities and > even some jams/open mic at short notice, I would be particularly > grateful. > > Thanks for any leads. > > ./MiS > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound --- Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.tobiasreber.com From clemens.hausch at gmx.at Fri Oct 8 10:01:45 2010 From: clemens.hausch at gmx.at (clemens hausch) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:01:45 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Vienna? In-Reply-To: <9F64441D-8103-4E6A-862D-F13809523E88@sunrise.ch> References: <9F64441D-8103-4E6A-862D-F13809523E88@sunrise.ch> Message-ID: <6BAF6283-5718-47B8-BA85-3C24D53B46E5@gmx.at> hi, you should definitely check out klub moozak, an event i'm organizing with 2 friends of mine. as a matter of fact we're having klub moozak's 3 years birthday party on 27.10. - fits right into your timeframe. location: fluc (praterstern) http://www.fluc.at free entry - event starts at 21:00, live music starts around 22:15 live: peter szely (at) form & void (at) more on klub moozak: http://www.myspace.com/klubmoozak http://www.flickr.com/klubmoozak http://www.youtube.com/klubmoozak more on the moozak label: http://www.moozak.org http://www.soundcloud.com/moozak kind regards, clemens Am 07.10.2010 um 22:10 schrieb Tobias Reber: > the Rhiz (rhiz.org) is supposed to be the place to be. i've never been there, though. > > kind regards, > > tobias > > Am 07.10.2010 um 15:32 schrieb Michal Seta: > >> Hello, >> >> I will be in Vienna around October 15 - 29. I welcome any suggestions >> for places to hang out with interesting music/art. I will be staying >> right in the MuseumsQuartier so I will be surrounded by art but I >> would like to know of opinions with regard to places that are not to >> be missed. >> >> If anyone knows of venues that welcome unusual music activities and >> even some jams/open mic at short notice, I would be particularly >> grateful. >> >> Thanks for any leads. >> >> ./MiS >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > --- > > Tobias Reber > Freiburgstrasse 32 > 2503 Biel > Switzerland > > mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 > email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch > www.tobiasreber.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound - http://www.moozak.org http://www.myspace.com/clemenshausch http://www.unfinishedbusiness.at http://www.myspace.com/klubmoozak -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guy.birkin at ntu.ac.uk Fri Oct 8 10:36:43 2010 From: guy.birkin at ntu.ac.uk (Birkin, Guy 2003 (PGR)) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:36:43 +0100 Subject: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E4ADEEF579F1D43A9E5A492B0074ACE379B30@hawthorn.ads.ntu.ac.uk> Hello Dan, When you say 'video processing', are you implying that you used Processing (the programming language) to make the video? I thought it might be because it looks superficially similar to the video for Radiohead's video for House of Cards. Good work! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Bennett [mailto:pavementsands at gmail.com] Sent: 13 September 2010 20:02 To: microsound at or8.net Subject: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp Hi all, I started mucking around with video processing the other week and put together a vid for the tune I put forward for Kim's Microsound comp on Vague Terrain (ages ago I know, but it's now part of an album which I just finished). Thought some of you might be interested and I'd appreciate opinions as it's my first crack at digital animation/vid processing. http://vimeo.com/14901626 (I retitled it because I wanted to make some aspects of its construction more explicit - it's called Formes Rouges on the comp). Cheers Dan -- http://www.skjolbrot.org This email is intended solely for the addressee. It may contain private and confidential information. If you are not the intended addressee, please take no action based on it nor show a copy to anyone. In this case, please reply to this email to highlight the error. Opinions and information in this email that do not relate to the official business of Nottingham Trent University shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the University. Nottingham Trent University has taken steps to ensure that this email and any attachments are virus-free, but we do advise that the recipient should check that the email and its attachments are actually virus free. This is in keeping with good computing practice. From lauramello at gmx.at Fri Oct 8 13:34:06 2010 From: lauramello at gmx.at (Laura Mello) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:34:06 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Vienna In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101008173406.260150@gmx.net> Hello Michael, definitely check http://klingt.org/gro.tgnilk/events/index.html and you will be busy enough... best Laura Am 07.10.2010 um 15:32 schrieb Michal Seta: > Hello, > > I will be in Vienna around October 15 - 29. I welcome any suggestions > for places to hang out with interesting music/art. I will be staying > right in the MuseumsQuartier so I will be surrounded by art but I > would like to know of opinions with regard to places that are not to > be missed. > > If anyone knows of venues that welcome unusual music activities and > even some jams/open mic at short notice, I would be particularly > grateful. > > Thanks for any leads. > > ./MiS -- "The three main intellectual ages of man are: 0 - 5 years age of WHY 5 - 10 years age of WHY NOT 10 - 75 years age of BECAUSE" DEBONO, Edward, The dog exercising machine, A study of children as inventors, Harmondsworth [u.a.] : Penguin Books, 1971. - 125 S. . - 0-14-080616-4. - (Penguin education) From trommer at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 11 23:42:19 2010 From: trommer at sympatico.ca (michael trommer) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:42:19 -0400 Subject: [microsound] Interesting doc Message-ID: Good chance that this has already been seen by most of you, but just in case: http://vimeo.com/1737899 -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fbar at footils.org Tue Oct 12 03:53:59 2010 From: fbar at footils.org (Frank Barknecht) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:53:59 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Interesting doc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101012075358.GA3538@footils.org> Hi Michael, On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:42:19PM -0400, michael trommer wrote: > Good chance that this has already been seen by most of you, but just in > case: > http://vimeo.com/1737899 thanks for pointing this out. I didn't know it, so you've made at least one on this list a bit smarter. :) (Those wondering what's it about: The video is a 30 min. documentary about sound perception, soundscapes etc. called "Soundwalkers" by Raquel Castro.) Ciao -- Frank From touch at klanggold.net Tue Oct 12 04:10:50 2010 From: touch at klanggold.net (Klanggold) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:10:50 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Interesting doc In-Reply-To: <20101012075358.GA3538@footils.org> References: <20101012075358.GA3538@footils.org> Message-ID: <58302646-F5B1-4853-9603-49BB22363C05@klanggold.net> Hey..me too... ;) Am 12.10.2010 um 09:53 schrieb Frank Barknecht: > Hi Michael, > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:42:19PM -0400, michael trommer wrote: >> Good chance that this has already been seen by most of you, but just in >> case: >> http://vimeo.com/1737899 > > thanks for pointing this out. I didn't know it, so you've made at least > one on this list a bit smarter. :) > > (Those wondering what's it about: The video is a 30 min. documentary > about sound perception, soundscapes etc. called "Soundwalkers" by Raquel > Castro.) > > Ciao > -- > Frank > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound ____________________________________ KLANGGOLD label for experimental, avantgarde, improvised & electronic audioart c/o andreas usenbenz Von H?nefeld Weg 16, 89075 Ulm | germany www.klanggold.net be a friend: www.myspace.com/klanggold www.twitter.com/klanggold www.lastfm.de/user/klanggold news: kg008/ Haruki - Snowed in Food Shelter (cd / dl) (file under: experimental, Avantgarde neo classical, ambient, soundscapes) still hot: kg007/ Morgan Craft - Morgan Kraft (digital) (file under: experimental, Avantgarde Jazz, Improvisation) kg006/ Nobile- Mariella (digital + special limited cd version) (file under: experimental, piano music, ambient, improvisation) kg005/ Viirus- The Virus Album (file under: experimental, Jazz, free jazz, soundscapes) kg004/ Jens D?ring & Ulrich Troyer- 20050429 (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg003/ 3Banditos- Sympathy For The Donkey (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg002/ Jair Rohm Parker Wells- AMDG (file under: experimental, noise, jazz) kg001/ Nobile- Pelktron (file under: experimental, ambient, noise, new music) forthcoming releases: kg009/ Miu - Fernmusik (cd | dl) kg010/ v/a - we like calm listeners (cd | dl) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinksamuel at yahoo.com Thu Oct 14 09:36:24 2010 From: thinksamuel at yahoo.com (Samuel van ransbeeck) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] things to do in Sydney? Message-ID: <773884.94967.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello I am in Sydney, Australia until 21st of October. Any events I should not miss? I am looking for interesting bookshops that have music section (and not only some biography of Michael Jackson) and interactive art. Cheers Samuel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pavementsands at gmail.com Thu Oct 14 10:38:46 2010 From: pavementsands at gmail.com (Daniel Bennett) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:38:46 +0100 Subject: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp Message-ID: Thanks Guy. No, not done in Processing thogh - this was done in Jitter. I just checked out House of Cards and I see what you mean! The difference is that I think that looks like 3d scans of objects -whereas this is just deformation of 2d images, far less high tech! Mine is based on the same process you can see in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uvc8wYwOVw&feature=related Cheers Dan Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:36:43 +0100 > From: "Birkin, Guy 2003 \(PGR\)" > To: > Subject: Re: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp > Message-ID: > <9E4ADEEF579F1D43A9E5A492B0074ACE379B30 at hawthorn.ads.ntu.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Dan, > > When you say 'video processing', are you implying that you used > Processing (the programming language) to make the video? I thought it > might be because it looks superficially similar to the video for > Radiohead's video for House of Cards. > > Good work! > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Bennett [mailto:pavementsands at gmail.com] > Sent: 13 September 2010 20:02 > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp > > Hi all, > I started mucking around with video processing the other week and put > together a vid for the tune I put forward for Kim's Microsound comp on > Vague Terrain (ages ago I know, but it's now part of an album which I > just finished). Thought some of > you might be interested and I'd appreciate opinions as it's my first > crack at digital animation/vid processing. > > http://vimeo.com/14901626 > > (I retitled it because I wanted to make some aspects of its > construction more explicit - it's called Formes Rouges on the comp). > > Cheers > Dan > > -- > http://www.skjolbrot.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es Thu Oct 14 15:23:42 2010 From: mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es (Jaime Munarriz Ortiz) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:23:42 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp Message-ID: <4CB758BE.6040607@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> I think it starts nicely, but then the abstract images become too obvious, as you can see easily two trains on a railroad. I think this kin of visual treatment deserves some tension, were you try to resolve the forms. The more abstract material fits better at the beginning, like the 'pushed in z axis' 3d mesh. You could alter the more evident parts at the beginning, maybe masking some regions (with black squares or so). Then, around 2', you begin to introduce the 'real world', and it works nicely. But these 2 first minutes should maintain the tension, with abstract and evocative shapes. The rhythm is ok, I think, following the audio parts. But you can always introduce more 'synchro- events', reinforcing some important sounds. I hope this helps. From dev at commtom.com Tue Oct 19 20:03:34 2010 From: dev at commtom.com (devslashnull) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 02:03:34 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rutt / Etra scan processing. Looks nice. I like the ending especially. There is a great Quartz Composer plug-in which attempts to emulate this effect out there... very well done emulation. I like this music in the video. The video is nice however seems too reliant on this one effect. dvn On Oct 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Daniel Bennett wrote: > Thanks Guy. > No, not done in Processing thogh - this was done in Jitter. I just > checked out House of Cards and I see what you mean! The difference > is that I think that looks like 3d scans of objects -whereas this is > just deformation of 2d images, far less high tech! > > Mine is based on the same process you can see in this vid > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uvc8wYwOVw&feature=related > > Cheers > Dan > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:36:43 +0100 > From: "Birkin, Guy 2003 \(PGR\)" > To: > Subject: Re: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp > Message-ID: > <9E4ADEEF579F1D43A9E5A492B0074ACE379B30 at hawthorn.ads.ntu.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Dan, > > When you say 'video processing', are you implying that you used > Processing (the programming language) to make the video? I thought it > might be because it looks superficially similar to the video for > Radiohead's video for House of Cards. > > Good work! > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Bennett [mailto:pavementsands at gmail.com] > Sent: 13 September 2010 20:02 > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp > > Hi all, > I started mucking around with video processing the other week and put > together a vid for the tune I put forward for Kim's Microsound comp on > Vague Terrain (ages ago I know, but it's now part of an album which I > just finished). Thought some of > you might be interested and I'd appreciate opinions as it's my first > crack at digital animation/vid processing. > > http://vimeo.com/14901626 > > (I retitled it because I wanted to make some aspects of its > construction more explicit - it's called Formes Rouges on the comp). > > Cheers > Dan > > -- > http://www.skjolbrot.org > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dev at commtom.com Tue Oct 19 20:16:20 2010 From: dev at commtom.com (devslashnull) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 02:16:20 +0200 Subject: [microsound] things to check out in berlin this week? Message-ID: <5063C53E-9624-422B-A41A-7624C5E528AF@commtom.com> I will be in Berlin with a colleague this week... looking for off the beaten path music shows, sound art, audio installations etc... Suggestions for destinations? dev From milalea at gmail.com Tue Oct 19 20:20:12 2010 From: milalea at gmail.com (mileece) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 02:20:12 +0200 Subject: [microsound] things to check out in berlin this week? In-Reply-To: <5063C53E-9624-422B-A41A-7624C5E528AF@commtom.com> References: <5063C53E-9624-422B-A41A-7624C5E528AF@commtom.com> Message-ID: hey, this was posted on the SC forum:::\\\\hope it's fun! mileece* Hello SC friends, I'm going to be in Berlin next Thursday to Tuesday and would love to see some of you. I am playing a show at R-20 on Thursday with two incredible drummers, Jim Black and Tony Buck. We are sharing the set with Gareth Mitchell. It should be a super fun show: Gareth Mitchell and Sam Pluta/Jim Black/Tony Buck 21. Oktober 21.00hrs ends 24.00hrs R-20 Ziegrastrasse 11 ( almost at the end coming from Sonnenallee long narrow alley follow the lights) U+S Sonnenallee http://staalplaat.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/21-oktober-gareth-mitchell-and-sam-plutajim-blacktony-buck/ I'm also going to be at the users meeting on Monday, so that should be fun too. Anyhow, if you are around, I'd love to see you. If you want to grab a beer or if you have a show I should go to, let me know. I don't have much going on during that time. OK - maybe see you soon! Sam www.wetink.org www.sampluta.com www.carrierrecords.com myspace.com/glissandobinladen On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:16 AM, devslashnull wrote: > I will be in Berlin with a colleague this week... looking for off the > beaten path music shows, sound art, audio installations etc... > > Suggestions for destinations? > > dev > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- we are all one, or nothing. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From y.riad at live.nl Tue Oct 19 20:22:46 2010 From: y.riad at live.nl (Younes Riad) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 02:22:46 +0200 Subject: [microsound] things to check out in berlin this week? In-Reply-To: <5063C53E-9624-422B-A41A-7624C5E528AF@commtom.com> References: <5063C53E-9624-422B-A41A-7624C5E528AF@commtom.com> Message-ID: http://www.echtzeitmusik.de/ On 20 okt 2010, at 02:16, devslashnull wrote: > I will be in Berlin with a colleague this week... looking for off the beaten path music shows, sound art, audio installations etc... > > Suggestions for destinations? > > dev > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From pavementsands at gmail.com Wed Oct 20 06:09:40 2010 From: pavementsands at gmail.com (Daniel Bennett) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:09:40 +0100 Subject: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp Message-ID: Cheers Jaime and Devlash, Jaime - I was never after total abstraction, so I'm quite happy if the viewer can see what the things in the video are (though in fact they're trucks in a container yard, not trains). In fact part of the point was to take imagery of the physical but generally hidden workings that prop up our virtualised economy and "virtualise" them - make them immaterial, repeat the process. "All that is solid melts into air", etc. So being able to make out things within the abstraction is pretty crucial. Thanks for the advice on tension and pacing. Because I'd decided to stick with one piece of footage and one "look" I found that difficult, and you're probably right that there's more work to do there. I was worried about using too many synchronised elements for fear of "mickey mousing" the music but maybe I was overly cautious in that respect. Devlash- glad you liked the music. Thanks for saying so. You may be right about the video being too reliant on one effect. If so that's unfortunately a problem with the conception - it was a conscious choice to stick with variations on one process. Partly that was for consistency, and to anchor it in one "place", partly it was to mirror the music, and partly it was just personal inclination. I figure if Curtis Roads can write a whole series of pieces using only granulated pulsars there's no reason why a vid using only rutt-etra style processing shouldn't be workable. If it feels a little monotonous in this case though, then I guess it has to be a matter of my finding more creative ways of maintaining tension/providing variation - that's something I struggled with a little. As I say, first crack at this, and my mates, being mates, are apt to only say nice things - so it's good to hear honest reactions. Cheers. > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:23:42 +0200 > From: Jaime Munarriz Ortiz > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: Re: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp > Message-ID: <4CB758BE.6040607 at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I think it starts nicely, but then the abstract images become too > obvious, as you can see easily two trains on a railroad. > I think this kin of visual treatment deserves some tension, were you try > to resolve the forms. > The more abstract material fits better at the beginning, like the > 'pushed in z axis' 3d mesh. > You could alter the more evident parts at the beginning, maybe masking > some regions (with black squares or so). > Then, around 2', you begin to introduce the 'real world', and it works > nicely. > But these 2 first minutes should maintain the tension, with abstract and > evocative shapes. > The rhythm is ok, I think, following the audio parts. > But you can always introduce more 'synchro- events', reinforcing some > important sounds. > > I hope this helps. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 02:03:34 +0200 > From: devslashnull > To: microsound at microsound.org > Subject: Re: [microsound] Vid for my track on the vague terrain comp > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; > DelSp="yes" > > Rutt / Etra scan processing. Looks nice. I like the ending especially. > There is a great Quartz Composer plug-in which attempts to emulate > this effect out there... very well done emulation. > > I like this music in the video. The video is nice however seems too > reliant on this one effect. > > dvn > On Oct 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Daniel Bennett wrote: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lauramello at gmx.at Wed Oct 20 09:46:04 2010 From: lauramello at gmx.at (Laura Mello) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:46:04 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Berlin today Message-ID: <20101020134604.137130@gmx.net> On Wednesday the 20th of Oktober JD Zazie will cook your ears, while you'll taste unbelievable amazing italian food. How could you resist from getting into the pleasure of all the senses? 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Please take a look at it if you like and feel free to modify it, use it, etc. .. I am also looking for an open-source pulse synthesizer and other microsound-based instruments. Thanks, open to collaborate. [code - i'll need miniAudicle to run it] www.wolfganggil.com/collab/granularSynt_noreverb_variable_volume.zip miniAudicle http://audicle.cs.princeton.edu/mini/ -- Wolfgang Gil http://www.wolfganggil.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So, in order to achieve tension and keep the interest, you could think on the recording of the original footage: you could record more obscure clips, or close ups, or frames with a lot of black.... so now you do know the effect they are going to produce, and you can control the progression of the whole piece. And, I like it! I hope this helps, cheers. From sofus at foppa.dk Wed Oct 27 05:37:52 2010 From: sofus at foppa.dk (Sofus Forsberg) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:37:52 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Books on algorithmic/interactive/generative music In-Reply-To: <4CC5D273.8010504@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> Message-ID: Hello I have in a long time been circling around this area, but never really gotten very deep into it, and was wondering if anybody here could guide me to some good books or other material on the subject. Thanks :D From phillipthomas at hotmail.com Wed Oct 27 06:09:31 2010 From: phillipthomas at hotmail.com (Phillip Thomas) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:09:31 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Books on algorithmic/interactive/generative music In-Reply-To: References: <4CC5D273.8010504@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es>, Message-ID: Hi You could do worse than starting here...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cope > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:37:52 +0200 > From: sofus at foppa.dk > To: microsound at microsound.org > Subject: [microsound] Books on algorithmic/interactive/generative music > > Hello > > I have in a long time been circling around this area, but never really > gotten very deep into it, and was wondering if anybody here could guide me > to some good books or other material on the subject. > > Thanks :D > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tobias Am 27.10.2010 um 11:37 schrieb Sofus Forsberg: > Hello > > I have in a long time been circling around this area, but never really > gotten very deep into it, and was wondering if anybody here could > guide me > to some good books or other material on the subject. > > Thanks :D > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound --- Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.tobiasreber.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cyborgk at gmail.com Wed Oct 27 12:34:57 2010 From: cyborgk at gmail.com (David Powers) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:34:57 -0500 Subject: [microsound] Books on algorithmic/interactive/generative music In-Reply-To: <59D12F1A-0A69-4129-AA64-F6EB9248331C@sunrise.ch> References: <59D12F1A-0A69-4129-AA64-F6EB9248331C@sunrise.ch> Message-ID: Here are my suggestions: Alfred Mann, "The Study of Fugue" http://www.amazon.com/Study-Fugue-Alfred-Mann/dp/0486254399 William Kinderman, "Beethoven's Diabelli Variations (Studies in Musical Genesis and Structure)" http://www.amazon.com/Beethovens-Diabelli-Variations-Studies-Structure/dp/0195342364/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1288195684&sr=1-1-spell George Perle, "The Operas of Alban Berg, Volume I: Wozzeck" http://www.amazon.com/Operas-Alban-Berg-Wozzeck/dp/0520066170/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1288195717&sr=1-4 George Perle, "Serial Composition and Atonality: An Introduction to the Music of Schoenberg, Berg, and Webern, Sixth edition, Revised" http://www.amazon.com/Serial-Composition-Atonality-Introduction-Schoenberg/dp/0520074300/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1288195717&sr=1-1 Okay, you may ask what these books have to do with algorithms, but I'd say that ALL music great music of the last 500 years tends to be algorithmic, but in fact structured by multiple rule sets, so that one can't just reduce the work to a single set of rules since there are inherent contradictions in the rule sets. I came to the conclusion that it's much more beneficial to study the work of great composers, as opposed to those silly "cookbooks"... After many years I have realized that the solutions to many of my compositional problems are already out there, in the works of composers such as Beethoven and Berg. If you want to broaden your perspective, also look into books about medieval and early renaissance compositional techniques, jazz theory (lydian chromatic concept perhaps?), or classical music of India. Any of these systems will give you tons of ideas you can extrapolate from and apply to composition with machines. Also, don't forget that it is often the breaking of a rule that is the most expressive moment in music... but that this expressive moment depends on the rules (algorithms) for its meaning. Finally, I personally think composers who are utilizing algorithms need to be especially careful in the way they treat time, and always remember that machine time is not the same as lived, embodied time... ~David On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Tobias Reber wrote: > Hi Sofus, > > There's a book called "Algorithmic Composition: Paradigms of Automated Music > Generation" by Gerhard Niehaus. > > I haven't read it myself as I couldn't find it in any library around here, > but I'd be very interested in hearing about it if anybody else has read it. > Tobias > > Am 27.10.2010 um 11:37 schrieb Sofus Forsberg: > > Hello > > I have in a long time been circling around this area, but never really > gotten very deep into it, and was wondering if anybody here could guide me > to some good books or other material on the subject. > > Thanks :D > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > --- > Tobias Reber > Freiburgstrasse 32 > 2503 Biel > Switzerland > mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 > email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch > www.tobiasreber.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > From prolepsis at gmail.com Wed Oct 27 12:44:50 2010 From: prolepsis at gmail.com (Al Matthews) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:44:50 -0400 Subject: [microsound] Books on algorithmic/interactive/generative music In-Reply-To: References: <59D12F1A-0A69-4129-AA64-F6EB9248331C@sunrise.ch> Message-ID: I vote for Fred Lerdahl and Ray Jackendoff's "Generative Theory of Tonal Music" http://www.amazon.com/Generative-Theory-Tonal-Music-ebook/dp/B002ZG7B90/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2 for a number of the same reasons. Extrapolation is likewise required. In addition a friend pointed me to Larry Polansky's e-monograph: http://digitalmusics.dartmouth.edu/~larry/published_articles/tenney_monograph_soundings/index.html which I would argue is a fabulously helpful resource. -- Al Matthews -- http://fatmilk.tv On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:34 PM, David Powers wrote: > Here are my suggestions: > > Alfred Mann, "The Study of Fugue" > http://www.amazon.com/Study-Fugue-Alfred-Mann/dp/0486254399 > > William Kinderman, "Beethoven's Diabelli Variations (Studies in > Musical Genesis and Structure)" > http://www.amazon.com/Beethovens-Diabelli-Variations-Studies-Structure/dp/0195342364/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1288195684&sr=1-1-spell > > George Perle, "The Operas of Alban Berg, Volume I: Wozzeck" > http://www.amazon.com/Operas-Alban-Berg-Wozzeck/dp/0520066170/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1288195717&sr=1-4 > > George Perle, "Serial Composition and Atonality: An Introduction to > the Music of Schoenberg, Berg, and Webern, Sixth edition, Revised" > http://www.amazon.com/Serial-Composition-Atonality-Introduction-Schoenberg/dp/0520074300/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1288195717&sr=1-1 > > Okay, you may ask what these books have to do with algorithms, but I'd > say that ALL music great music of the last 500 years tends to be > algorithmic, but in fact structured by multiple rule sets, so that one > can't just reduce the work to a single set of rules since there are > inherent contradictions in the rule sets. I came to the conclusion > that it's much more beneficial to study the work of great composers, > as opposed to those silly "cookbooks"... After many years I have > realized that the solutions to many of my compositional problems are > already out there, in the works of composers such as Beethoven and > Berg. > > If you want to broaden your perspective, also look into books about > medieval and early renaissance compositional techniques, jazz theory > (lydian chromatic concept perhaps?), or classical music of India. Any > of these systems will give you tons of ideas you can extrapolate from > and apply to composition with machines. > > Also, don't forget that it is often the breaking of a rule that is the > most expressive moment in music... but that this expressive moment > depends on the rules (algorithms) for its meaning. > > Finally, I personally think composers who are utilizing algorithms > need to be especially careful in the way they treat time, and always > remember that machine time is not the same as lived, embodied time... > > ~David > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Tobias Reber wrote: >> Hi Sofus, >> >> There's a book called "Algorithmic Composition: Paradigms of Automated Music >> Generation" by Gerhard Niehaus. >> >> I haven't read it myself as I couldn't find it in any library around here, >> but I'd be very interested in hearing about it if anybody else has read it. >> Tobias >> >> Am 27.10.2010 um 11:37 schrieb Sofus Forsberg: >> >> Hello >> >> I have in a long time been circling around this area, but never really >> gotten very deep into it, and was wondering if anybody here could guide me >> to some good books or other material on the subject. >> >> Thanks :D >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> --- >> Tobias Reber >> Freiburgstrasse 32 >> 2503 Biel >> Switzerland >> mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 >> email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch >> www.tobiasreber.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >