From dimitridf at yahoo.com Sun May 2 22:15:18 2010 From: dimitridf at yahoo.com (Dimitri della Faille) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 19:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] anyone from Poland, Latvia, Lithuania or Russia? Message-ID: <554450.22408.qm@web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello Microsounders, I am looking for likeminded people in Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Russia who might help me find gigs/performance opportunities for this coming summer for a microsound/electronic noise-ambient set. Please contact me OFF LIST! Thank you very much in advance Dimitri From jonasr at jonasr.com Fri May 7 13:02:44 2010 From: jonasr at jonasr.com (Jonas R. Kirkegaard) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 19:02:44 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Golden Shield Music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Very interesting project! When mapping data to musical parameters you can allways do it in 100 million different ways. Can you explain a little more about your aesthetic choices in selection of the "sound" of the voices? Maybe specifically about the choice of rythmic patterns and the choice of MIDI (which i suppose introduce the use of the cromatic relations) rather than just frequencies? And maybe also how you think the actual sound of the piece relates to China and the cencorship problems you refer to? All the best Jonas Den 22/04/2010 kl. 13.38 skrev Marco Donnarumma: > Dear microsounders, > I'd like to share with you my latest (Pure Data-based) work. > Golden Shield Music is a multi-channel generative sound installation > for censored Internet Protocol (IP) addresses. > Detailed informations (including an audio excerpt) can be viewed at http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/golden-shield-music/ > . > Following a proposal by Greg J. Smith, chief editor at Vague > Terrain, I wrote a project brief for the journal: http://vagueterrain.net/content/2010/04/golden-shield-music > > Would love to hear feedbacks from the community. > Best, > > > > -- > Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD > Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - > Edinburgh, UK > > > PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com > LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net > EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fe2cruz at hotmail.com Sat May 8 12:27:25 2010 From: fe2cruz at hotmail.com (christiaan cruz) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 09:27:25 -0700 Subject: [microsound] Montreal Micro All In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Any venue, festival, gallery, series, or field recording area recommendations in Montreal? Heading that way 2nd half of May. -c >> Message: 5 >> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:59:33 +0200 >> From: Tobias Reber >> To: microsound at microsound.org >> Subject: Re: [microsound] Music In Vancouver BC? >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> not microsoundish at all, and only on june 1: one of my favourite >> musicians, devin townsend acoustic solo show: www.devintownsend.com >> >> :-) >> >> tobias >> >> >> >> Am 29.04.2010 um 17:41 schrieb Joshua Maremont: >> >>> I am heading up to Vancouver BC in a few days and am curious about >>> any musical events, venues, clubs, record shops (or anything else) >>> to visit there. ?Any recommendations for me? ?Thank you. >>> -- >>> Joshua Maremont / Thermal - mailto:thermal at boxmanstudies.com >>> Boxman Studies Label - http://www.boxmanstudies.com/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> microsound mailing list > From info at thesaddj.com Tue May 11 09:39:48 2010 From: info at thesaddj.com (Marco Donnarumma) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:39:48 +0100 Subject: [microsound] Golden Shield Music In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi Jonas, many thanks for your feedback and sorry for late response but I had few days off in Geneva for Mapping Festival. Can you explain a little more about your aesthetic choices in selection of > the "sound" of the voices? Maybe specifically about the choice of rythmic > patterns and the choice of MIDI (which i suppose introduce the use of the > cromatic relations) rather than just frequencies? > The idea behind the piece is to _not choose_ how the music will be composed, but to let the data sound. Thus I tried to create the simplest data translation method I could achieve, and I used the simplest sound generators I could, i.e. 3 basic phasor and sine generators. Each IP address becomes a single note, formed by four voices. Let's say I have the following IP: 192.34.53.23. The software first decomposes each single value, then translates each float in a MIDI value (using a proper mapping of the data), finally it feeds the synthesizers. There is no use of cromatic relations or other composition methods, numbers just sound; notes are ordered by the amount of pages the Golden Shield obscured for each IP address. Using polyrhythm I enriched the composition. I used MIDI because it is the most immediate and suitable protocol for this kind of data (rarely IP addresses contains float bigger than 200, this allows a quite reliable MIDI mapping). And maybe also how you think the actual sound of the piece relates to China > and the cencorship problems you refer to? I like the idea that those censored contents can become public while mutating into another shape, from words and images to sound. At the same time if the Golden Shield wouldn't exist, the piece would not make any sense... in a way I tried to exploit this censorship technology in the opposite way China government does. They use IP addresses to identify cultural and historical contents to be censored, my piece uses the same IP to compose music with free technology. The sound of the piece is not relevant to me, I think the composition process it's actually the real "artwork", even though I don't really like this word. Hope I answered to your questions, I'd would be really interested in other microsound-ish works outlining a process as main aspect of the piece. Anybody wants to share? Best, Marco On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Jonas R. Kirkegaard wrote: > Very interesting project! > > When mapping data to musical parameters you can allways do it in 100 > million different ways. Can you explain a little more about your aesthetic > choices in selection of the "sound" of the voices? Maybe specifically about > the choice of rythmic patterns and the choice of MIDI (which i suppose > introduce the use of the cromatic relations) rather than just frequencies? > And maybe also how you think the actual sound of the piece relates to China > and the cencorship problems you refer to? > > All the best > Jonas > > Den 22/04/2010 kl. 13.38 skrev Marco Donnarumma: > > Dear microsounders, > I'd like to share with you my latest (Pure Data-based) work. > Golden Shield Music is a multi-channel generative sound installation for > censored Internet Protocol (IP) addresses. > Detailed informations (including an audio excerpt) can be viewed at > http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/golden-shield-music/. > Following a proposal by Greg J. Smith, chief editor at Vague Terrain, I > wrote a project brief for the journal: > http://vagueterrain.net/content/2010/04/golden-shield-music > > Would love to hear feedbacks from the community. > Best, > > > > -- > Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD > Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK > > > PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com > LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | > http://www.flxer.net > EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Richard Devine's unique approach to sound is hugely in demand and the Lemur Cube's two granular samplers are packed with an entire library of original sound content. The randomisations inside the Reaktor patch make it a sound sculpture piece that never plays the same sound twice. The in-depth control provided by the Lemur template is perfect for guiding the chaos. The twisted textures provided by DevineCube are ideal to add soundscapes and sound fx to any project, or even throw in your own samples into the waveform window (define the samples range in the main window) and see what comes out! Click here for the lemur template!. Click here for a huge four granular sampler Reaktor only version for more sonic madness!. Whilst you listen to the amazing sounds coming out of this Lemur/Reaktor instrument, sit back and let the credits roll: Concept & sound design: Richard Devine & Josh Kay Devinesound www.devinesound.com Concept & programming: Rick Scott Rachmiel www.rachmiel.org Additional programming & GUI tweaks: Igor Shilov Twisted Tools www.twistedtools.com LemurCube control surface design & additional sound design: Antonio Blanca http://absoundscapes.com All sounds ?2010 DevineSound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To maintain the dependency on proprietary software. From news at ostrowski.info Wed May 12 17:55:29 2010 From: news at ostrowski.info (mattyo) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 17:55:29 -0400 Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time In-Reply-To: <4BEB2259.8030901@thuisbasis.net> References: <4BD9A897.3040102@boxmanstudies.com> <4BEB2259.8030901@thuisbasis.net> Message-ID: <1CD33AC6-8ABC-4A86-B5F5-92052364A3CF@ostrowski.info> Or, to be unopinionated about it, to enable other people who do not own the max application to run patches written in max. they can use them, but not edit them. \M On May 12, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Erik Maes wrote: > steffen scholl wrote: >> what exactly is the function of max/msp runtime? > > To maintain the dependency on proprietary software. > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From pascal.savy at googlemail.com Wed May 12 17:56:59 2010 From: pascal.savy at googlemail.com (pascal) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 22:56:59 +0100 Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time (steffen scholl) Message-ID: with the max/msp runtime, you can run existing max patches without having to own a max license. so basically you run those patches for free but you can't hack them up. best, pascal http://www.staticsound.net ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 23:35:15 +0200 > From: steffen scholl > To: microsound > Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > what exactly is the function of max/msp runtime? > > best, > st > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1004xjajah2 > ?ber Messenger g?nstiger telefonieren? Sagen Sie "Ja" zu JAJAH! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://or8.net/pipermail/microsound/attachments/20100512/2506d358/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmi at art.pte.hu Thu May 13 01:36:51 2010 From: mmi at art.pte.hu (Kovacs Balazs) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:36:51 +0200 Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time (steffen scholl) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BEB8FF3.4060703@art.pte.hu> but it is not to hard to edit a patch as textfile, so you can hack it... Bal?zs 2010.05.12. 23:56 keltez?ssel, pascal ?rta: > with the max/msp runtime, you can run existing max patches without > having to own a max license. > > so basically you run those patches for free but you can't hack them up. > > > best, > > pascal > > > > http://www.staticsound.net > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 23:35:15 +0200 > From: steffen scholl > > To: microsound > > Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > what exactly is the function of max/msp runtime? > > best, > st > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1004xjajah2 > ?ber Messenger g?nstiger telefonieren? Sagen Sie "Ja" zu JAJAH! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- PTE-MK MAMI PTE Muveszeti Kar, Media- es Alkalmazott Muveszetek Intezete H-7624 Pecs, Damjanich u. 30. tel/fax:+36(72)501540 mobil:+36(20)2331867 e-mail: mmi at art.pte.hu weblap: http://www.art.pte.hu/menu/92 From lsutton at libero.it Thu May 13 02:49:02 2010 From: lsutton at libero.it (Lorenzo) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:49:02 +0200 Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time (steffen scholl) In-Reply-To: <4BEB8FF3.4060703@art.pte.hu> References: <4BEB8FF3.4060703@art.pte.hu> Message-ID: <4BEBA0DE.3020005@libero.it> > but it is not to hard to edit a patch as textfile, so you can hack it... Not if they have been saved in some binary format. Lorenzo. > > Bal?zs > > > 2010.05.12. 23:56 keltez?ssel, pascal ?rta: >> with the max/msp runtime, you can run existing max patches without >> having to own a max license. >> >> so basically you run those patches for free but you can't hack them up. >> >> >> best, >> >> pascal >> >> >> >> http://www.staticsound.net >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 23:35:15 +0200 >> From: steffen scholl > >> To: microsound > > >> Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> what exactly is the function of max/msp runtime? >> >> best, >> st >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1004xjajah2 >> ?ber Messenger g?nstiger telefonieren? Sagen Sie "Ja" zu JAJAH! >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > From noisesmith at gmail.com Thu May 13 03:00:15 2010 From: noisesmith at gmail.com (Justin Glenn Smith) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 00:00:15 -0700 Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time (steffen scholl) In-Reply-To: <4BEBA0DE.3020005@libero.it> References: <4BEB8FF3.4060703@art.pte.hu> <4BEBA0DE.3020005@libero.it> Message-ID: <4BEBA37F.1030000@gmail.com> what he is saying is that max patches are text files. The really tricky thing is that objects and connections are referred to by numbers based on the order they are created so deleting an object or moving a connection etc. can get way tricky, but if you do it in a disciplined way it is definitely possible to hack max patches in a text editor. Lorenzo wrote: > >> but it is not to hard to edit a patch as textfile, so you can hack it... > Not if they have been saved in some binary format. > > Lorenzo. >> >> Bal?zs >> >> >> 2010.05.12. 23:56 keltez?ssel, pascal ?rta: >>> with the max/msp runtime, you can run existing max patches without >>> having to own a max license. >>> >>> so basically you run those patches for free but you can't hack them up. >>> >>> >>> best, >>> >>> pascal >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.staticsound.net >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 23:35:15 +0200 >>> From: steffen scholl > >>> To: microsound >> > >>> Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> >>> what exactly is the function of max/msp runtime? >>> >>> best, >>> st >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1004xjajah2 >>> ?ber Messenger g?nstiger telefonieren? Sagen Sie "Ja" zu JAJAH! >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> microsound mailing list >>> microsound at microsound.org >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From chazen at gmail.com Thu May 13 08:40:06 2010 From: chazen at gmail.com (Charlie DeTar) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:40:06 -0400 Subject: [microsound] max/msp run time (steffen scholl) In-Reply-To: <4BEBA37F.1030000@gmail.com> References: <4BEB8FF3.4060703@art.pte.hu> <4BEBA0DE.3020005@libero.it> <4BEBA37F.1030000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BEBF326.4060505@gmail.com> On 05/13/2010 03:00 AM, Justin Glenn Smith wrote: > what he is saying is that max patches are text files. The really tricky thing is that objects and connections are referred to by numbers based on the order they are created so deleting an object or moving a connection etc. can get way tricky, but if you do it in a disciplined way it is definitely possible to hack max patches in a text editor. > > Lorenzo wrote: >> >>> but it is not to hard to edit a patch as textfile, so you can hack it... >> Not if they have been saved in some binary format. It is tangential to the argument at hand, but indeed max patches can be saved in binary (typically ".mxb"), text (typically ".mxt") or collection formats (including standalone app bundles that embed the runtime). If it's a simple max binary format (not a collection), this simple utility which I extracted from the "cyclone" PD/Max compatibility project could convert it to text: http://tirl.org/software/maxb2maxt/ And indeed, hacking a patch code by hand is ridiculous. Though I've done it for small fixes, if you had to make a substantial change, you'd be better off reimplementing in supercollider, PD, or anything else really. -charlie From renato.fabbri at gmail.com Thu May 13 08:54:45 2010 From: renato.fabbri at gmail.com (Renato Fabbri) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 09:54:45 -0300 Subject: [microsound] Sweden events or meetings on July Message-ID: Dear List Members, I might be around Sweden in July. Does anyone know about interesting events on experimental electronic music (or simply electronic art) taking place nearby? If linked to free technologies, even better! Best of Luck, Renato -- Linux User #479299 skype: fabbri.renato From lister at sonicescape.net Thu May 13 08:58:35 2010 From: lister at sonicescape.net (Jakob Riis) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:58:35 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Sweden events or meetings on July In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100513125835.1323405032@mail2.bahnhof.se> Norbergfestival http://www.norbergfestival.com/ Cheers, Jakob 13/05/10, kl. 14:54 +0200 , skrev Renato Fabbri: >Dear List Members, > >I might be around Sweden in July. Does anyone know about interesting >events on experimental electronic music (or simply electronic art) >taking place nearby? If linked to free technologies, even better! > >Best of Luck, >Renato > > >-- >Linux User #479299 >skype: fabbri.renato >_______________________________________________ >microsound mailing list >microsound at microsound.org >http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From arsmoderna at gmail.com Thu May 13 13:46:41 2010 From: arsmoderna at gmail.com (carlos santos) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 18:46:41 +0100 Subject: [microsound] RadiaLx 2010: Open Call for Radio and Sound Art Projects and Broadcasts Message-ID: // Open Call for Radio and Sound Art Projects and Broadcasts // Selection of radio projects to be broadcast during the three day special programation. Closing date for the open call: 30 May 2010. a) streaming projects b) 28 or 57 minute radio program c) other formats are acceptable (but please send a detailed proposal) For additional information on this open call: http://www.radialx.radiozero.pt // About RadiaLx 2010 RadiaLx 2010 is the third edition of the radio festival and will take place in Lisbon from 1 to 3 of July. RadiaLx 2010 has produced the only radio art festival in Portugal which focuses exclusively on radio, sound art and audio work. The festival features 3 days of non-stop special broadcast on Radio Zero comprising site-specific projects, streamings from all over the world, live shows, as well as broadcasts of recent and old challenging radio and sound works. In parallel, workshops and conferences will certainly provide an in-depth critical platform and a place for exchange of ideas, bringing students and pratictioners to colaboration and direct engagement with the radio field. The artists are encouraged to use radio to establish interactions with the place as social and geographic space. http://www.radialx.radiozero.pt Email: radialx at radiozero.pt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nathalie.fougeras at gmail.com Fri May 14 08:32:45 2010 From: nathalie.fougeras at gmail.com (nathalie fougeras) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 14:32:45 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Sweden events or meetings on July In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi In LAB gallery I will organize a Headphones festival the 3 and 4th of july. I will open soon the access here: http://leplacard.org/2010/(( LAB_Sounds ))/ You re welcome to come and play directly in LAB gallery (north of sweden) some experimental sounds for the LABoratory sounds thematic. Please contact me for more information All the best Nathalie for LAB gallery LAB gallery http://www.lab-gallery.com 2010/5/13 Renato Fabbri > Dear List Members, > > I might be around Sweden in July. Does anyone know about interesting > events on experimental electronic music (or simply electronic art) > taking place nearby? If linked to free technologies, even better! > > Best of Luck, > Renato > > > -- > Linux User #479299 > skype: fabbri.renato > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If linked to free technologies, even better! >> >> Best of Luck, >> Renato >> >> >> -- >> Linux User #479299 >> skype: fabbri.renato >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -- Linux User #479299 skype: fabbri.renato From jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net Thu May 20 17:59:56 2010 From: jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net (John Hopkins) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:59:56 -0600 Subject: [microsound] microsound in Portland? Message-ID: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> Howdy folks -- I find myself in Portland, Oregon for a week, until 26 May, with busy MD-type friends, so, an Audi coupe and keys to putter around town -- anybody know of interesting things, venues, exhibitions, performances, etc, to check out? cheers, John From ted.pallas at gmail.com Thu May 20 18:30:48 2010 From: ted.pallas at gmail.com (Ted Pallas) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 18:30:48 -0400 Subject: [microsound] microsound in Portland? In-Reply-To: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> References: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: <6CCCBE70-B6E1-4AFF-82C8-13EFC9108A32@gmail.com> If you don't drink stumptown coffee while you're there you, sir, are a fool. Ted Pallas Live Media Design Founder, ://grove.nyc ted at grovenyc.net cell - 516 286 9661 On May 20, 2010, at 5:59 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > Howdy folks -- > > I find myself in Portland, Oregon for a week, until 26 May, with > busy MD-type friends, so, an Audi coupe and keys to putter around > town -- anybody know of interesting things, venues, exhibitions, > performances, etc, to check out? > > cheers, > John > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From hgarbage at gmail.com Thu May 20 19:18:26 2010 From: hgarbage at gmail.com (Gavin Gamboa) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:18:26 -0700 Subject: [microsound] microsound in Portland? In-Reply-To: <6CCCBE70-B6E1-4AFF-82C8-13EFC9108A32@gmail.com> References: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> <6CCCBE70-B6E1-4AFF-82C8-13EFC9108A32@gmail.com> Message-ID: Powell's bookstore! On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Ted Pallas wrote: > If you don't drink stumptown coffee while you're there you, sir, are a > fool. > > Ted Pallas > Live Media Design > Founder, ://grove.nyc > ted at grovenyc.net > cell - 516 286 9661 > > > On May 20, 2010, at 5:59 PM, John Hopkins > wrote: > > Howdy folks -- >> >> I find myself in Portland, Oregon for a week, until 26 May, with busy >> MD-type friends, so, an Audi coupe and keys to putter around town -- anybody >> know of interesting things, venues, exhibitions, performances, etc, to check >> out? >> >> cheers, >> John >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> References: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: dont know what is happening there at the moment but here are some links I use for Portland area galleries, artists, sound, and film http://www.portlandart.net/ http://pdxstump.com/directory/experimental/music http://www.openwidepdx.com/ http://www.ultrapdx.com/ http://iglooart.blogspot.com/ http://www.odoka.org/ http://www.rocksboxfineart.com/ http://www.fourteen30.com/index.cfm http://www.disjecta.org/main.php http://www.nwfilm.org/ http://www.ditchprojects.com/ have a good time On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:59 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > Howdy folks -- > > I find myself in Portland, Oregon for a week, until 26 May, with busy > MD-type friends, so, an Audi coupe and keys to putter around town -- anybody > know of interesting things, venues, exhibitions, performances, etc, to check > out? > > cheers, > John > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From touch at klanggold.net Fri May 21 02:31:38 2010 From: touch at klanggold.net (Klanggold) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 08:31:38 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Reviews wanted Message-ID: <44A9EADE-5C7C-4637-9850-551B2D7F36DD@klanggold.net> Hello music lovers. i?m trying to find people/ magazines/ radio guys which are interessted in writing reviews of klanggold releases. we throw out experimental, ambient, noise, avant-garde and soundscape stuff to the world ;) if you feel, that you?re the right person, please get in touch with me Andreas Usenbenz ____________________________________ KLANGGOLD label for experimental, avantgarde, improvised & electronic audioart c/o andreas usenbenz Eichenhang 73 89075 ulm www.klanggold.net be a friend: www.myspace.com/klanggold www.twitter.com/klanggold news: kg008/ Haruki . Snowed in Food Shelter (cd/dl) (file under: experimental, neo-classical, drones, ambient) still hot: kg007/ Morgan Craft - Morgan Kraft (digital) (file under: experimental, Avantgarde Jazz, Improvisation) kg006/ Nobile- Mariella (digital + special limited cd version) (file under: experimental, piano music, ambient, improvisation) kg005/ Viirus- The Virus Album (file under: experimental, Jazz, free jazz, soundscapes) kg004/ Jens D?ring & Ulrich Troyer- 20050429 (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg003/ 3Banditos- Sympathy For The Donkey (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg002/ Jair Rohm Parker Wells- AMDG (file under: experimental, noise, jazz) kg001/ Nobile- Pelktron (file under: experimental, ambient, noise, new music) forthcoming releases: jens d?ring & andreas usenbenz - salat (kg008) jens d?ring & andreas usenbenz - wurst (kg009) haruki - snowed in food shelter (kg010) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Am 21.05.2010 um 13:29 schrieb Adam Davis: > I am a person, and I volunteer! :) > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound ____________________________________ KLANGGOLD label for experimental, avantgarde, improvised & electronic audioart c/o andreas usenbenz Eichenhang 73 89075 ulm www.klanggold.net be a friend: www.myspace.com/klanggold www.twitter.com/klanggold news: kg007/ Morgan Craft - Morgan Kraft (digital) (file under: experimental, Avantgarde Jazz, Improvisation) still hot: kg006/ Nobile- Mariella (digital + special limited cd version) (file under: experimental, piano music, ambient, improvisation) kg005/ Viirus- The Virus Album (file under: experimental, Jazz, free jazz, soundscapes) kg004/ Jens D?ring & Ulrich Troyer- 20050429 (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg003/ 3Banditos- Sympathy For The Donkey (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg002/ Jair Rohm Parker Wells- AMDG (file under: experimental, noise, jazz) kg001/ Nobile- Pelktron (file under: experimental, ambient, noise, new music) forthcoming releases: jens d?ring & andreas usenbenz - salat (kg008) jens d?ring & andreas usenbenz - wurst (kg009) haruki - snowed in food shelter (kg010) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Snowed in Food Shelter (cd/dl) (file under: experimental, neo-classical, drones, ambient) still hot: kg007/ Morgan Craft - Morgan Kraft (digital) (file under: experimental, Avantgarde Jazz, Improvisation) kg006/ Nobile- Mariella?(digital + special limited cd version) (file under: experimental, piano music, ambient, improvisation) kg005/ Viirus- The Virus Album? (file under: experimental, Jazz, free jazz, soundscapes) kg004/ Jens D?ring & Ulrich Troyer- 20050429? (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg003/ 3Banditos- Sympathy For The Donkey? (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg002/ Jair Rohm Parker Wells- AMDG (file under: experimental, noise, jazz) kg001/ Nobile- Pelktron? (file under: experimental, ambient, noise, new music) forthcoming releases: jens d?ring & andreas usenbenz - salat (kg008) jens d?ring & andreas usenbenz - wurst (kg009) haruki - snowed in food shelter (kg010) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> References: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: oh, hell, it's a hostile, corrupt police-state, packed with petty bureaucrats; gulp your overpriced caffeinated swill and hope you're able to get out of town! /:b From kim at anechoicmedia.com Fri May 21 19:01:05 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 16:01:05 -0700 Subject: [microsound] ***yet another reminder*** Message-ID: <4BF710B1.1000405@anechoicmedia.com> in case some .microsounders missed the last post: this list is *not* meant for announcing anything except new works you want to share with the community and/or get feedback on please please please read the frickin' statement in BIG RED LETTERS on the same page you happened to sub from? it is all right there is painfully unsubtle text screaming at you in bold red: ***DO NOT POST ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE MAIN MICROSOUND LIST!!!*** there is another list for this which you can sub to and announce and cross-post to From alex.ookpik at gmail.com Fri May 21 19:12:43 2010 From: alex.ookpik at gmail.com (alex olsen) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 19:12:43 -0400 Subject: [microsound] ***yet another reminder*** In-Reply-To: <4BF710B1.1000405@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4BF710B1.1000405@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: Hello, As a relatively new subscriber I just wanted to clarify something. I often see people post about how they are visiting a particular city and would like to know about groups, venues, and events in that area. If we are replying to a request of that type with a suggestion of an event we know about in that area, should we simply reply off-list? I know in my own case I was simply answering someone's question of what to do in a particular area -- I just happened to know about an event there and was trying to be helpful by mentioning it. 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URL: From arsmoderna at gmail.com Mon May 24 07:16:59 2010 From: arsmoderna at gmail.com (carlos santos) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:16:59 +0100 Subject: [microsound] RadiaLx 2010: Open Call for Radio and Sound Art Projects and Broadcasts Message-ID: <238E8850-7813-4A8F-A41B-52DF8CB6C3CC@gmail.com> // Open Call for Radio and Sound Art Projects and Broadcasts // Selection of radio projects to be broadcast during the three day special programation. Closing date for the open call: 30 May 2010. a) streaming projects b) 28 or 57 minute radio program c) other formats are acceptable (but please send a detailed proposal) For additional information on this open call: http://www.radialx.radiozero.pt // About RadiaLx 2010 RadiaLx 2010 is the third edition of the radio festival and will take place in Lisbon from 1 to 3 of July. RadiaLx 2010 has produced the only radio art festival in Portugal which focuses exclusively on radio, sound art and audio work. The festival features 3 days of non-stop special broadcast on Radio Zero comprising site-specific projects, streamings from all over the world, live shows, as well as broadcasts of recent and old challenging radio and sound works. In parallel, workshops and conferences will certainly provide an in-depth critical platform and a place for exchange of ideas, bringing students and pratictioners to colaboration and direct engagement with the radio field. The artists are encouraged to use radio to establish interactions with the place as social and geographic space. http://www.radialx.radiozero.pt Email: radialx at radiozero.pt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net Mon May 24 12:16:18 2010 From: jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net (John Hopkins) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:16:18 -0700 Subject: [microsound] microsound in Portland? In-Reply-To: <6CCCBE70-B6E1-4AFF-82C8-13EFC9108A32@gmail.com> References: <4BF5B0DC.4020701@tech-no-mad.net> <6CCCBE70-B6E1-4AFF-82C8-13EFC9108A32@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BFAA652.1030403@tech-no-mad.net> Hei, folks, thanks for all the Portland input, I'm having some interesting encounters and tho no direct microsound-ish events, the off-list lists were very helpful and gave me a different perspective on my city experience (my hosts are old friends, but are surgeons at the OSU hospital, so a totally different world-view ;-) Kim, I did want to clarify regarding your post to the list about no announcements -- as I hadn't seen any such announcements recently -- wanted to know if it was my post asking for microsound info on Portland that you were referring to? I have always understood the main list to be a community-generator which strengthens the ties among practitioners and others who are interested in microsoundish principles. It'd be nice if you could clarify if it was my email that you were directing the comment to. cheers, John ********************************************* John Hopkins Artist-in-residence, April-May 2010 Center for Land Use Interpretation http://clui.org Wendover, Nevada, USA http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ http://www.neoscenes.net/travelog/weblog.php chazhop at gmail.com jhopkins at neoscenes.net skype: chazhopkins ********************************************* From st.scholl at live.de Thu May 27 06:31:07 2010 From: st.scholl at live.de (steffen scholl) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 12:31:07 +0200 Subject: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list In-Reply-To: <230215.96135.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <44A9EADE-5C7C-4637-9850-551B2D7F36DD@klanggold.net>, <230215.96135.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hello, who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which was initiated by christopher murtagh? best, steff _________________________________________________________________ http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1005xWin72 Windows 7 - Alles was Du brauchst und noch viel mehr! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trond.lossius at bek.no Thu May 27 07:52:32 2010 From: trond.lossius at bek.no (Trond Lossius) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:52:32 +0200 Subject: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list In-Reply-To: References: <44A9EADE-5C7C-4637-9850-551B2D7F36DD@klanggold.net>, <230215.96135.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6B34C379-2EF7-4CFC-BD22-17D5597328B6@bek.no> > who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which was initiated by christopher murtagh? It was run on a McGill server, and administered by Chris Murtagh. Following controversies related to antiorp/Netochka Nezvanova he/she/it was voted out of the list ca. 1999. Later on Cycling'74 set up a new list replacing the first one as an attempt at a compromise. On the C74 list subscribers could choose to ignore and not receive posts from select subscribers. Following threats from NN towards C74 for copyright infringements in Jitter versus Nato+0.55 NN was again banned from the list in 2001. BEK then opened the 55 mailing list as an alternative channel, that would remain uncensored. This became a productive scene for discussions in particular related to NN, Nato.0+55 and real time video processing for a period until Jitter, in particular with the switch from OS9 to OSX, evolved as the preferred solution for video processing in the Max community. The 55 list remains live, but have been void of traffic for several years now. Archives can be found at: https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/55 When C74 turned from integrated forum and mailing list to a forum only solution, BEK was again asked from various holds to set up an alternative Max mailing list. This mailing list is fairly low traffic, but I find it high quality in terms of replies to questions, often from long-term and seasoned Max users (aka the dinosaurs): https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/max If you want to get in touch with Chris directly, you might get hold of him here: http://www.ombu.ca/en/christopher/ I don't know if the archive of the list is still available anywhere, but I have local copies of the mails from my signing up sometime in 1998 until the end of it. Salon.com did a quite thorough feature on NN in 2002: http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2002/03/01/netochka Best, Trond From brymoxine at yahoo.com Thu May 27 10:22:56 2010 From: brymoxine at yahoo.com (bryan garcia) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 07:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list In-Reply-To: <6B34C379-2EF7-4CFC-BD22-17D5597328B6@bek.no> Message-ID: <528608.63632.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> i've always loved this story of nezvenova.? her/he/their websites were really incredible - and the work was often equally creative. is this stuff preserved somewhere ??? was anyone around for all the drama ??? i'de love to hear personal accounts. anyone know what happened to her/him/them ? maybe the mystery is better left obscured.? --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Trond Lossius wrote: From: Trond Lossius Subject: Re: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list To: microsound at microsound.org Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 6:52 AM > who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which was initiated by christopher murtagh? It was run on a McGill server, and administered by Chris Murtagh. Following controversies related to antiorp/Netochka Nezvanova he/she/it was voted out of the list ca. 1999. Later on Cycling'74 set up a new list replacing the first one as an attempt at a compromise. On the C74 list subscribers could choose to ignore and not receive posts from select subscribers. Following threats from NN towards C74 for copyright infringements in Jitter versus Nato+0.55 NN was again banned from the list in 2001. BEK then opened the 55 mailing list as an alternative channel, that would remain uncensored. This became a productive scene for discussions in particular related to NN, Nato.0+55 and real time video processing for a period until Jitter, in particular with the switch from OS9 to OSX, evolved as the preferred solution for video processing in the Max community. The 55 list remains live, but have been void of traffic for several years now. Archives can be found at: https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/55 When C74 turned from integrated forum and mailing list to a forum only solution, BEK was again asked from various holds to set up an alternative Max mailing list. This mailing list is fairly low traffic, but I find it high quality in terms of replies to questions, often from long-term and seasoned Max users (aka the dinosaurs): https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/max If you want to get in touch with Chris directly, you might get hold of him here: http://www.ombu.ca/en/christopher/ I don't know if the archive of the list is still available anywhere, but I have local copies of the mails from my signing up sometime in 1998 until the end of it. Salon.com did a quite thorough feature on NN in 2002: http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2002/03/01/netochka Best, Trond _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was run on a McGill server, and administered by Chris Murtagh. Following controversies related to antiorp/Netochka Nezvanova he/she/it was voted out of the list ca. 1999. Later on Cycling'74 set up a new list replacing the first one as an attempt at a compromise. On the C74 list subscribers could choose to ignore and not receive posts from select subscribers. Following threats from NN towards C74 for copyright infringements in Jitter versus Nato+0.55 NN was again banned from the list in 2001. BEK then opened the 55 mailing list as an alternative channel, that would remain uncensored. This became a productive scene for discussions in particular related to NN, Nato.0+55 and real time video processing for a period until Jitter, in particular with the switch from OS9 to OSX, evolved as the preferred solution for video processing in the Max community. The 55 list remains live, but have been void of traffic for several years now. Archives can be found at: https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/55 When C74 turned from integrated forum and mailing list to a forum only solution, BEK was again asked from various holds to set up an alternative Max mailing list. This mailing list is fairly low traffic, but I find it high quality in terms of replies to questions, often from long-term and seasoned Max users (aka the dinosaurs): https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/max If you want to get in touch with Chris directly, you might get hold of him here: http://www.ombu.ca/en/christopher/ I don't know if the archive of the list is still available anywhere, but I have local copies of the mails from my signing up sometime in 1998 until the end of it. 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URL: From kim at anechoicmedia.com Thu May 27 18:01:49 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:01:49 -0700 Subject: [microsound] posting announcements Message-ID: <4BFEEBCD.4030400@anechoicmedia.com> if you don't get a personal email from me in addition to my public service announcement then you don't have to sweat whether or not I was subtly implicating you I've found being subtle here doesn't always work! ;) From paulo.mouat at gmail.com Thu May 27 19:41:50 2010 From: paulo.mouat at gmail.com (Paulo Mouat) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:41:50 -0400 Subject: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list In-Reply-To: <528608.63632.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6B34C379-2EF7-4CFC-BD22-17D5597328B6@bek.no> <528608.63632.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was an engaged participant on a number of mailing lists when antiorp joined (mainly emusic-l) and accompanied the phenomenon from beginning to end. I always found antiorp to be a civil, even if sometimes abrasive when ruffled, netizen. The cryptic posts never bothered me and were in fact very interesting in multiple levels. I never understood or agreed with the purity of communication advocated by some of the netiquette/english language zealots, but they got what they wanted in the end. When antiorp morphed into NN some of the "spirit" was lost, primarily because it clearly became a collective with a more diffuse voice. I still prize the copies of the two A9FF releases I helped finance. //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:22 AM, bryan garcia wrote: > i've always loved this story of nezvenova. > > her/he/their websites were really incredible - and the work was often > equally creative. > > is this stuff preserved somewhere ? > > was anyone around for all the drama ? i'de love to hear personal > accounts. > > anyone know what happened to her/him/them ? > > maybe the mystery is better left obscured. > > > > > > --- On *Thu, 5/27/10, Trond Lossius * wrote: > > > From: Trond Lossius > Subject: Re: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list > To: microsound at microsound.org > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 6:52 AM > > > > who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which > was initiated by christopher murtagh? > > > It was run on a McGill server, and administered by Chris Murtagh. Following > controversies related to antiorp/Netochka Nezvanova he/she/it was voted out > of the list ca. 1999. Later on Cycling'74 set up a new list replacing the > first one as an attempt at a compromise. On the C74 list subscribers could > choose to ignore and not receive posts from select subscribers. Following > threats from NN towards C74 for copyright infringements in Jitter versus > Nato+0.55 NN was again banned from the list in 2001. BEK then opened the 55 > mailing list as an alternative channel, that would remain uncensored. This > became a productive scene for discussions in particular related to NN, > Nato.0+55 and real time video processing for a period until Jitter, in > particular with the switch from OS9 to OSX, evolved as the preferred > solution for video processing in the Max community. > > The 55 list remains live, but have been void of traffic for several years > now. Archives can be found at: > > https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/55 > > When C74 turned from integrated forum and mailing list to a forum only > solution, BEK was again asked from various holds to set up an alternative > Max mailing list. This mailing list is fairly low traffic, but I find it > high quality in terms of replies to questions, often from long-term and > seasoned Max users (aka the dinosaurs): > > https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/max > > If you want to get in touch with Chris directly, you might get hold of him > here: > > http://www.ombu.ca/en/christopher/ > > I don't know if the archive of the list is still available anywhere, but I > have local copies of the mails from my signing up sometime in 1998 until the > end of it. > > Salon.com did a quite thorough feature on NN in 2002: > > http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2002/03/01/netochka > > > Best, > Trond > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From st.scholl at live.de Fri May 28 05:16:58 2010 From: st.scholl at live.de (steffen scholl) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:16:58 +0200 Subject: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list In-Reply-To: <6B34C379-2EF7-4CFC-BD22-17D5597328B6@bek.no> References: <44A9EADE-5C7C-4637-9850-551B2D7F36DD@klanggold.net>, , <230215.96135.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, , <6B34C379-2EF7-4CFC-BD22-17D5597328B6@bek.no> Message-ID: thanks a lot... for what BEK stands for? steff > From: trond.lossius at bek.no > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:52:32 +0200 > To: microsound at microsound.org > Subject: Re: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list > > > who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which was initiated by christopher murtagh? > > > It was run on a McGill server, and administered by Chris Murtagh. Following controversies related to antiorp/Netochka Nezvanova he/she/it was voted out of the list ca. 1999. Later on Cycling'74 set up a new list replacing the first one as an attempt at a compromise. On the C74 list subscribers could choose to ignore and not receive posts from select subscribers. Following threats from NN towards C74 for copyright infringements in Jitter versus Nato+0.55 NN was again banned from the list in 2001. BEK then opened the 55 mailing list as an alternative channel, that would remain uncensored. This became a productive scene for discussions in particular related to NN, Nato.0+55 and real time video processing for a period until Jitter, in particular with the switch from OS9 to OSX, evolved as the preferred solution for video processing in the Max community. > > The 55 list remains live, but have been void of traffic for several years now. Archives can be found at: > > https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/55 > > When C74 turned from integrated forum and mailing list to a forum only solution, BEK was again asked from various holds to set up an alternative Max mailing list. This mailing list is fairly low traffic, but I find it high quality in terms of replies to questions, often from long-term and seasoned Max users (aka the dinosaurs): > > https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/max > > If you want to get in touch with Chris directly, you might get hold of him here: > > http://www.ombu.ca/en/christopher/ > > I don't know if the archive of the list is still available anywhere, but I have local copies of the mails from my signing up sometime in 1998 until the end of it. > > Salon.com did a quite thorough feature on NN in 2002: > > http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2002/03/01/netochka > > > Best, > Trond > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound _________________________________________________________________ http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1005xIE82 Sicher und anonym surfen? 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Here's the front page in English: http://www.bek.no/front?locale=en Cheers, Trond From brymoxine at yahoo.com Fri May 28 11:37:10 2010 From: brymoxine at yahoo.com (bryan garcia) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <988809.64382.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0 -? wow,? this is really great? work. blasting from the speakers in the lab on a slow day at work. caio --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Paulo Mouat wrote: From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list To: microsound at microsound.org Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 6:41 PM I was an engaged participant on a number of mailing lists when antiorp joined (mainly emusic-l) and accompanied the phenomenon from beginning to end. I always found antiorp to be a civil, even if sometimes abrasive when ruffled, netizen. The cryptic posts never bothered me and were in fact very interesting in multiple levels. I never understood or agreed with the purity of communication advocated by some of the netiquette/english language zealots, but they got what they wanted in the end. When antiorp morphed into NN some of the "spirit" was lost, primarily because it clearly became a collective with a more diffuse voice. I still prize the copies of the two A9FF releases I helped finance.? //phttp://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:22 AM, bryan garcia wrote: i've always loved this story of nezvenova.? her/he/their websites were really incredible - and the work was often equally creative. is this stuff preserved somewhere ??? was anyone around for all the drama ??? i'de love to hear personal accounts. anyone know what happened to her/him/them ? maybe the mystery is better left obscured.? --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Trond Lossius wrote: From: Trond Lossius Subject: Re: [microsound] mcgill-mailing list To: microsound at microsound.org Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 6:52 AM > who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which was initiated by christopher murtagh? It was run on a McGill server, and administered by Chris Murtagh. Following controversies related to antiorp/Netochka Nezvanova he/she/it was voted out of the list ca. 1999. Later on Cycling'74 set up a new list replacing the first one as an attempt at a compromise. On the C74 list subscribers could choose to ignore and not receive posts from select subscribers. Following threats from NN towards C74 for copyright infringements in Jitter versus Nato+0.55 NN was again banned from the list in 2001. BEK then opened the 55 mailing list as an alternative channel, that would remain uncensored. This became a productive scene for discussions in particular related to NN, Nato.0+55 and real time video processing for a period until Jitter, in particular with the switch from OS9 to OSX, evolved as the preferred solution for video processing in the Max community. The 55 list remains live, but have been void of traffic for several years now. Archives can be found at: https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/55 When C74 turned from integrated forum and mailing list to a forum only solution, BEK was again asked from various holds to set up an alternative Max mailing list. This mailing list is fairly low traffic, but I find it high quality in terms of replies to questions, often from long-term and seasoned Max users (aka the dinosaurs): https://mail.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/max If you want to get in touch with Chris directly, you might get hold of him here: http://www.ombu.ca/en/christopher/ I don't know if the archive of the list is still available anywhere, but I have local copies of the mails from my signing up sometime in 1998 until the end of it. Salon.com did a quite thorough feature on NN in 2002: http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2002/03/01/netochka Best, Trond _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erik at hecanjog.com Sun May 30 12:10:36 2010 From: erik at hecanjog.com (Erik Schoster) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 11:10:36 -0500 Subject: [microsound] Milwaukee Microsound? Message-ID: Hi all - I just moved back to Milwaukee last week - are there any Milwaukee microsounders on the list? What about good community resources and event pages, etc? I just checked out an excellent improvised music show at Sugar Maple recently - it's not microsound-specific, but is certainly a microsound-friendly venue in Bay View. (I'm also working on organizing a computer music event there in the next month or two, so feel free to contact me if that sounds interesting.) Milwaukee microsounders, sound off! Best, Erik == projects == work: http://www.hecanjog.com | http://www.heythere.org community: http://www.luvsound.org label: http://wolf.luvsound.org band: http://www.cedarav.com == social media == voicemail: 347-410-6440 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eschoster twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hecanjog blog: http://blog.hecanjog.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: