From macdara at email.com Mon Mar 1 05:41:28 2010 From: macdara at email.com (macdara at email.com) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:41:28 -0500 Subject: [microsound] The Nucleic Acid Database Project Message-ID: <8CC8742E2259BD8-141C-4BA@web-mmc-d06.sysops.aol.com> Simple genetic algorithms in .au and .mid, check out the mismatches though, strange stuff. BDLD58 my fav so far. http://ndbserver.rutgers.edu/atlas/music/index.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cica.dee.da at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 11:37:22 2010 From: cica.dee.da at gmail.com (Martin Zeilinger) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:37:22 -0500 Subject: [microsound] CC licensed music for a film about the Afghan community in Fremont, CA? Message-ID: <754DF6ED-0404-4C46-9E5B-D756FC82E9B0@gmail.com> Hi, does anyone know of a musician who would be willing to have his or her music used in an independently produced documentary on the Afghan community in Fremont, California (the largest in the U.S., by the way). At this point, the director is flexible with regard to what kind of music she'd like, but I think something instrumental, leaning towards the minimalist, and ideally with a bit of South-Central Asian or Arabian instrumentation (percussion, strings, etc.) Any information, on-list or off, would be very much appreciated! Thanks, Martin From technohead3d at googlemail.com Mon Mar 1 17:31:47 2010 From: technohead3d at googlemail.com (Adam Davis) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:31:47 +0000 Subject: [microsound] CC licensed music for a film about the Afghan community in Fremont, CA? In-Reply-To: <754DF6ED-0404-4C46-9E5B-D756FC82E9B0@gmail.com> References: <754DF6ED-0404-4C46-9E5B-D756FC82E9B0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5badef3b1003011431x1e04b275k8e8022257e7c16be@mail.gmail.com> Hi Martin, I would like to submit my own material for this film! I think some pre-microsound drone and ambient tracks would be appropriate, namely Abolished, Antennaland and Ocean of Infinite Bliss of which the MP3s can be found here: http://www.hedweb.com/adam-davis/ Perhaps Harmonics Research also? Plus, I have an Antennaland II floating around which I could e-mail as well. I'm not sure how fitting my material in the .microsound repository would be, but just in case, here they are: http://www.microsound.org/repository/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=user%20audio/adam_james_davis Perhaps, at a real stretch, "First Transmission..."? Best wishes, Adam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm not sure how fitting my material in the .microsound repository would be, but just in case, here they are: http://www.microsound.org/repository/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=user%20audio/adam_james_davis Perhaps, at a real stretch, "First Transmission..."? Best wishes, Adam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From ted.pallas at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 18:36:32 2010 From: ted.pallas at gmail.com (Ted Pallas) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:36:32 -0500 Subject: [microsound] kymophilia In-Reply-To: <5badef3b1003011527m76c38007lffbef16f16b08139@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8C430C.3000407@anechoicmedia.com> <7a0414351003011448s27659edesc765a7204da9e45d@mail.gmail.com> <5badef3b1003011527m76c38007lffbef16f16b08139@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <69237D4F-6D9B-4497-9A18-C7710CC531BE@gmail.com> I'm not sure who'd beat up who when it comes to steampunk and vibraphonepunk... Ted Pallas Live Media Design Founder, ://grove.nyc ted at grovenyc.net cell - 516 286 9661 On Mar 1, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Adam Davis wrote: > Cyberpunk, steampunk, biopunk...kymopunk? Vibrapunk? > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From technohead3d at googlemail.com Tue Mar 2 15:16:07 2010 From: technohead3d at googlemail.com (Adam Davis) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 20:16:07 +0000 Subject: [microsound] kymophilia In-Reply-To: <69237D4F-6D9B-4497-9A18-C7710CC531BE@gmail.com> References: <4B8C430C.3000407@anechoicmedia.com> <7a0414351003011448s27659edesc765a7204da9e45d@mail.gmail.com> <5badef3b1003011527m76c38007lffbef16f16b08139@mail.gmail.com> <69237D4F-6D9B-4497-9A18-C7710CC531BE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5badef3b1003021216u4dc65649kb390edf0ebae9656@mail.gmail.com> I think we should brainstorm the world's first kymapunk short story right now :P -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Meanwhile you might want to listen to what's there now - http://www.reverbnation.com/#/epochcollapse On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Martin Zeilinger wrote: > Hi, does anyone know of a musician who would be willing to have his or her > music used in an independently produced documentary on the Afghan community > in Fremont, California (the largest in the U.S., by the way). > > At this point, the director is flexible with regard to what kind of music > she'd like, but I think something instrumental, leaning towards the > minimalist, and ideally with a bit of South-Central Asian or Arabian > instrumentation (percussion, strings, etc.) > > Any information, on-list or off, would be very much appreciated! > > Thanks, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kim at anechoicmedia.com Wed Mar 3 16:14:57 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:14:57 -0800 Subject: [microsound] reminder: Pi Day 2010 Message-ID: <4B8ED151.9070105@anechoicmedia.com> new Pi Day project rules: - the piece must make use of the constant known as Pi = 3.14159 in some way - each piece should be EXACTLY 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length - file format is mp3 and ALL ID3 TAGS MUST BE CORRECTLY ENTERED or the piece will be deleted from the server deadline: Friday March 12 2010 server info: you must log into the project server using the SAME email address you are sub'd to this list with if you experience difficulties gaining access then ask someone on the list for assistance ladies and gentlemen, happy calculations and computations From technohead3d at googlemail.com Wed Mar 3 18:46:22 2010 From: technohead3d at googlemail.com (Adam Davis) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:46:22 +0000 Subject: [microsound] Artistic statement Message-ID: <5badef3b1003031546m1a81dfadx19b6e9de63792f5f@mail.gmail.com> Draft: Explorations into the hidden musicalities of raw data; like astrophysicists to the strange tonalities and cycles of the space above, but in a different direction. Background noises and minutiae, brought to the fore and heavily manipulated; the cultivation of sound, not it's abuse. The recycling of sound during the sound art-making process as strange rhythms that are as much a part of the music as the final sound product the audience consumes and registers. Organising the precedence of recycles before their respective source materials, their "uncycles", across time. As rhythm, melody and harmony, so phase, noise and atmosphere. (Respective work: http://soundcloud.com/adam-james-davis/dataconcrete - please download the original WAV if you have any spare time; the player is quite unkind to the sound quality.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at meterpool.com Fri Mar 5 08:29:38 2010 From: gary at meterpool.com (Gary R. Weisberg) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:29:38 -0500 Subject: [microsound] reminder: Pi Day 2010 In-Reply-To: <4B8ED151.9070105@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B8ED151.9070105@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <4B910742.7030307@meterpool.com> Actually, I think the deadline should be March 14th @ 1:59PM ;-) On 3/3/2010 4:14 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > new Pi Day project > > rules: > - the piece must make use of the constant known as Pi = 3.14159 in > some way > - each piece should be EXACTLY 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length > - file format is mp3 and ALL ID3 TAGS MUST BE CORRECTLY ENTERED or the > piece will be deleted from the server > > deadline: Friday March 12 2010 > > server info: you must log into the project server using the SAME email > address you are sub'd to this list with > if you experience difficulties gaining access then ask someone on the > list for assistance > > ladies and gentlemen, > happy calculations and computations > > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > From mis at artengine.ca Fri Mar 5 08:42:55 2010 From: mis at artengine.ca (Michal Seta) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:42:55 -0500 Subject: [microsound] reminder: Pi Day 2010 In-Reply-To: <4B910742.7030307@meterpool.com> References: <4B8ED151.9070105@anechoicmedia.com> <4B910742.7030307@meterpool.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Gary R. Weisberg wrote: > Actually, I think the deadline should be March 14th @ 1:59PM ;-) Actually, 1:59PM is 13:59 on a 24 hour clock which could introduce some calculation errors, not to mention the ambiguity of the results. It would be more authentic to set it to 1:59AM GMT ./MiS From akisd1 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 06:32:26 2010 From: akisd1 at yahoo.com (akis daoutis) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 03:32:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [microsound] CC licensed music for a film about the Afghan community in Fremont, CA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <292299.1187.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> you may also listen to ? http://www.myspace.com/daoutis cycles op.1 Thanks Akis --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Dariusz Roberte wrote: From: Dariusz Roberte Subject: Re: [microsound] CC licensed music for a film about the Afghan community in Fremont, CA? To: microsound at microsound.org Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 11:39 PM I may have just the thing - I will upoad the track/s to ReverbNation this week. Will let you know. Meanwhile you might want to listen to what's there now - http://www.reverbnation.com/#/epochcollapse On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Martin Zeilinger wrote: Hi, does anyone know of a musician who would be willing to have his or her music used in an independently produced documentary on the Afghan community in Fremont, California (the largest in the U.S., by the way). At this point, the director is flexible with regard to what kind of music she'd like, but I think something instrumental, leaning towards the minimalist, and ideally with a bit of South-Central Asian or Arabian instrumentation (percussion, strings, etc.) Any information, on-list or off, would be very much appreciated! 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From technohead3d at googlemail.com Thu Mar 11 15:19:34 2010 From: technohead3d at googlemail.com (Adam Davis) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:19:34 +0000 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <5badef3b1003111219x19e29375x973e05bb7205e097@mail.gmail.com> Definitely! Golden ratio stuff, right? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burnett at pobox.com Thu Mar 11 15:07:17 2010 From: burnett at pobox.com (Steve Burnett) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:07:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Kim Cascone wrote: > anyone interested in contributing to a new .microsound project based on phi? Possibly. Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com From mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es Thu Mar 11 15:45:19 2010 From: mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jaime_Mun=E1rriz_Ortiz?=) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:45:19 +0100 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 Message-ID: <4B99565F.2040308@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> phi is a killer in generative art! the growing ratio behind everything... a microsound could even evolve into a macrosound! From natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk Thu Mar 11 15:45:26 2010 From: natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk (Natasha Roberts) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:45:26 +0000 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: haven't a clue about phi but why only one way to find out! :) Natasha Roberts BA(HONS), MA. http://www.myspace.com/natasharoberts000http://www.pbshowfolio.com/profile/natasharoberts > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:52:05 -0800 > From: kim at anechoicmedia.com > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 > > anyone interested in contributing to a new .microsound project based on > phi? > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound _________________________________________________________________ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d4l3d at inbox.com Thu Mar 11 16:24:51 2010 From: d4l3d at inbox.com (d4l3d) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:24:51 -0800 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: I'm currently unable to participate but, for the sake of the project, I wonder if Fibonnacci series would also be included, given their close relationship. That would really open things up. > -----Original Message----- > From: kim at anechoicmedia.com > Sent: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:52:05 -0800 > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 > > anyone interested in contributing to a new .microsound project based on > phi? > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound ____________________________________________________________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! From gary at meterpool.com Thu Mar 11 17:04:24 2010 From: gary at meterpool.com (Gary R. Weisberg) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:04:24 -0500 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9949E5.6@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <4B9968E8.7000007@meterpool.com> Only if I can musically quote Bartok ;-) Gary On 3/11/2010 2:52 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > anyone interested in contributing to a new .microsound project based > on phi? _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > From mnelson2 at wisc.edu Thu Mar 11 23:20:51 2010 From: mnelson2 at wisc.edu (MSC Nelson) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:20:51 -0600 Subject: [microsound] logon help? In-Reply-To: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <7CBC5B7A53ED4E58A168668228A8BC85@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> I think I need help logging onto the project server to upload a Pi Day file. Never done that before, and may not be set up right. Any suggestions? Mark Nelson From imagimuse at orange.fr Fri Mar 12 05:55:48 2010 From: imagimuse at orange.fr (imagimuse) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:55:48 +0100 Subject: [microsound] logon help? In-Reply-To: <7CBC5B7A53ED4E58A168668228A8BC85@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> References: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> <7CBC5B7A53ED4E58A168668228A8BC85@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <305BF09B-5AFA-4E35-ACFF-8552E6AF8311@orange.fr> I had the same problem and sent a message to microsound-admin at interdisciplina.org. Still waiting... Charles Le 12 mars 2010 ? 05:20, MSC Nelson a ?crit : > > I think I need help logging onto the project server to upload a Pi Day file. > Never done that before, and may not be set up right. Any suggestions? > > Mark Nelson > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > From paulo.mouat at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 09:07:36 2010 From: paulo.mouat at gmail.com (Paulo Mouat) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:07:36 -0500 Subject: [microsound] logon help? In-Reply-To: <7CBC5B7A53ED4E58A168668228A8BC85@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> References: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> <7CBC5B7A53ED4E58A168668228A8BC85@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <424ce301003120607vd595122vf2c5ba359b24c46c@mail.gmail.com> Just go to the repository page, click on login, register, and set up your account using the same email you use to subscribe to the mailing list. Let me know if you have any problems. //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:20 PM, MSC Nelson wrote: > I think I need help logging onto the project server to upload a Pi Day > file. > Never done that before, and may not be set up right. Any suggestions? > > Mark Nelson > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulo.mouat at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 09:08:03 2010 From: paulo.mouat at gmail.com (Paulo Mouat) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:08:03 -0500 Subject: [microsound] logon help? In-Reply-To: <305BF09B-5AFA-4E35-ACFF-8552E6AF8311@orange.fr> References: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> <7CBC5B7A53ED4E58A168668228A8BC85@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> <305BF09B-5AFA-4E35-ACFF-8552E6AF8311@orange.fr> Message-ID: <424ce301003120608k3539b875oc3026217c74888ee@mail.gmail.com> Please try again now. //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:55 AM, imagimuse wrote: > I had the same problem and sent a message to > microsound-admin at interdisciplina.org. Still waiting... > Charles > > > Le 12 mars 2010 ? 05:20, MSC Nelson a ?crit : > > > > > I think I need help logging onto the project server to upload a Pi Day > file. > > Never done that before, and may not be set up right. Any suggestions? > > > > Mark Nelson > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > microsound mailing list > > microsound at microsound.org > > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. > > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulorcbarros at uol.com.br Fri Mar 12 09:20:08 2010 From: paulorcbarros at uol.com.br (PAULO R. C. BARROS) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:20:08 -0300 Subject: [microsound] logon help? In-Reply-To: <424ce301003120608k3539b875oc3026217c74888ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> <7CBC5B7A53ED4E58A168668228A8BC85@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> <305BF09B-5AFA-4E35-ACFF-8552E6AF8311@orange.fr> <424ce301003120608k3539b875oc3026217c74888ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b9a4d9874478_138f2161e742c3@weasel17.tmail> I will participate with an installation "Remix Station" on Bent Festival 2010, New York City, 22 April. http://www.bentfestival.org/ All the best, Paulo From imagimuse at orange.fr Fri Mar 12 10:28:52 2010 From: imagimuse at orange.fr (imagimuse) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:28:52 +0100 Subject: [microsound] logon help? In-Reply-To: <424ce301003120608k3539b875oc3026217c74888ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> <7CBC5B7A53ED4E58A168668228A8BC85@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> <305BF09B-5AFA-4E35-ACFF-8552E6AF8311@orange.fr> <424ce301003120608k3539b875oc3026217c74888ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <140AF19D-0DAF-4154-83E7-CC43031C4429@orange.fr> That's OK now. Thank you a lot. Charles Le 12 mars 2010 ? 15:08, Paulo Mouat a ?crit : > Please try again now. > > //p > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0 > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:55 AM, imagimuse wrote: > I had the same problem and sent a message to microsound-admin at interdisciplina.org. Still waiting... > Charles > > > Le 12 mars 2010 ? 05:20, MSC Nelson a ?crit : > > > > > I think I need help logging onto the project server to upload a Pi Day file. > > Never done that before, and may not be set up right. 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URL: From imagimuse at orange.fr Fri Mar 12 11:56:54 2010 From: imagimuse at orange.fr (imagimuse) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:56:54 +0100 Subject: [microsound] reminder: Pi Day 2010 In-Reply-To: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: My contribution for pi-day is now uploaded: imagimuse/Vortexteleportation.mp3 irresistible ascension through powerful circular streams Hap pi-day! Le 10 mars 2010 ? 18:24, Kim Cascone a ?crit : > > new Pi Day project > > rules: > - the piece must make use of the constant known as Pi = 3.14159 in some way > - each piece should be EXACTLY 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length > - file format is mp3 and ALL ID3 TAGS MUST BE CORRECTLY ENTERED or the > piece will be deleted from the server > > deadline: Friday March 12 2010 > > server info: you must log into the project server using the SAME email > address you are sub'd to this list with > if you experience difficulties gaining access then ask someone on the > list for assistance > > ladies and gentlemen, > happy calculations and computations > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > From imagimuse at orange.fr Fri Mar 12 11:56:54 2010 From: imagimuse at orange.fr (imagimuse) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:56:54 +0100 Subject: [microsound] reminder: Pi Day 2010 In-Reply-To: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B97D5CE.1060101@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: My contribution for pi-day is now uploaded: imagimuse/Vortexteleportation.mp3 irresistible ascension through powerful circular streams Hap pi-day! Le 10 mars 2010 ? 18:24, Kim Cascone a ?crit : > > new Pi Day project > > rules: > - the piece must make use of the constant known as Pi = 3.14159 in some way > - each piece should be EXACTLY 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length > - file format is mp3 and ALL ID3 TAGS MUST BE CORRECTLY ENTERED or the > piece will be deleted from the server > > deadline: Friday March 12 2010 > > server info: you must log into the project server using the SAME email > address you are sub'd to this list with > if you experience difficulties gaining access then ask someone on the > list for assistance > > ladies and gentlemen, > happy calculations and computations > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > From kim at anechoicmedia.com Fri Mar 12 12:32:40 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:32:40 -0800 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 Message-ID: <4B9A7AB8.7020507@anechoicmedia.com> let me clear up some issues w/r/t 1.61803399 1. the Fibonacci series converges onto phi -- so it is just another property of phi i.e. feel free to use them! :) 2. not only can phi be used in the expansion of ratios but in their reduction as well - it's just a ratio 3. Bartok never kept many notes on his compositional process so claims that Bartok's work makes extensive use of phi are dubious -- although there are examples of his using Fibonacci numbers for structuring a couple of his works anyway, rather than wait until Jan 6 of next year we could make it 6/1 instead? From js0000 at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 13:12:42 2010 From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:12:42 -0500 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9A7AB8.7020507@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9A7AB8.7020507@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > 2. not only can phi be used in the expansion of ratios but in their > reduction as well - it's just a ratio from wikipedia: The first known approximation of the (inverse) golden ratio by a decimal fraction, stated as "about 0.6180340," was written in 1597 by Prof. Michael Maestlin of the University of T?bingen in a letter to his former student Johannes Kepler.[13] > anyway, rather than wait until Jan 6 of next year we could make it 6/1 > instead? hmm, i wonder if we can do a better mapping [6 has a little to do with phi, but very little]. what about applying the inverse ratio to 365 [days in a year]: 255.58241 = 365 * .618034 aug 13 is day 226 so maybe that can be the due date? i'm sure we can work the math in some way to get a date we can live with ... also, day 89 [fibonacci] is 30 march, and day 144 is 24 may, and day 233 is aug 21. -- \js :-P From js0000 at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 13:12:42 2010 From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:12:42 -0500 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9A7AB8.7020507@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9A7AB8.7020507@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > 2. not only can phi be used in the expansion of ratios but in their > reduction as well - it's just a ratio from wikipedia: The first known approximation of the (inverse) golden ratio by a decimal fraction, stated as "about 0.6180340," was written in 1597 by Prof. Michael Maestlin of the University of T?bingen in a letter to his former student Johannes Kepler.[13] > anyway, rather than wait until Jan 6 of next year we could make it 6/1 > instead? hmm, i wonder if we can do a better mapping [6 has a little to do with phi, but very little]. what about applying the inverse ratio to 365 [days in a year]: 255.58241 = 365 * .618034 aug 13 is day 226 so maybe that can be the due date? i'm sure we can work the math in some way to get a date we can live with ... also, day 89 [fibonacci] is 30 march, and day 144 is 24 may, and day 233 is aug 21. -- \js :-P From gary at meterpool.com Fri Mar 12 14:25:59 2010 From: gary at meterpool.com (Gary R. Weisberg) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:25:59 -0500 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9A7AB8.7020507@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9A7AB8.7020507@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <4B9A9547.1070205@meterpool.com> Au contrare, mon frere...Bartok may not have had notes specific to the use of the golden ratio, but there are musicologists who have analyzed his works (Harry Halbreich, Erno Lendvai) and have noted its use in some of his pieces - most notably the string quartets (my favorites), and the sonata for 2 pianos and percussion. On 3/12/2010 12:32 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > > 3. Bartok never kept many notes on his compositional process so claims > that Bartok's work makes extensive use of phi are dubious -- although > there are examples of his using Fibonacci numbers for structuring a > couple of his works > > > From kim at anechoicmedia.com Fri Mar 12 15:06:17 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:06:17 -0800 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 Message-ID: <4B9A9EB9.4010205@anechoicmedia.com> > > Au contrare, mon frere...Bartok may not have had notes specific to the > use of the golden ratio, but there are musicologists who have analyzed > his works (Harry Halbreich, Erno Lendvai) and have noted its use in some > of his pieces - most notably the string quartets (my favorites), and the > sonata for 2 pianos and percussion. true in that a couple of his pieces do make use of Fib/Phi but that was the exception rather than the rule in Bartok's work actually, it was Lendvai's 'analysis' which have been discounted by Somfai, Tatlow and Griffiths as being dubious 0.6180340 is an *inverse* ratio and not the actual ratio of phi which is 1.61803399 and hence is NOT the number the fibonacci series converges to take any two numbers for example: 7 and 9 sum them then keep adding that sum to the prior number in the series 7+9=16 16+9=25 .../... 1186+1919=3105 until you get far into the series say to about 3105 divide that number by 1919 you get 1.618030224 which as you can see starts to look a lot like phi which calculated to 20 places is **1.61803398874989484820...** From kim at anechoicmedia.com Fri Mar 12 15:12:09 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:12:09 -0800 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 Message-ID: <4B9AA019.8000309@anechoicmedia.com> here's another take on the idea of Phi Day: http://www.goldenratio.org/phi_day.html From kim at anechoicmedia.com Fri Mar 12 15:21:27 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:21:27 -0800 Subject: [microsound] a good resource for learning more about phi Message-ID: <4B9AA247.2020604@anechoicmedia.com> http://goldennumber.net/ From cyborgk at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 16:21:49 2010 From: cyborgk at gmail.com (David Powers) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:21:49 -0600 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9AA019.8000309@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9AA019.8000309@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <686ba4e41003121321w602be59aoc82f7c9b26ddc4ec@mail.gmail.com> Interesting... so in the Northern Hemisphere it falls on Halloween, which might add a new twist to the interpretation of Phi... Having a different date for Northern and Southern hemisphere is problematic for a global event though. The proposed date for the Northern Hemisphere, May 6th though, would be a practical choice if we want to start the project now, because it is both in the near future but distant enough that people have a reasonable amount of time to create something. ~David On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > here's another take on the idea of Phi Day: > > http://www.goldenratio.org/phi_day.html > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From locrian at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 16:25:21 2010 From: locrian at gmail.com (Salman Bakht) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:25:21 -0800 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9A9EB9.4010205@anechoicmedia.com> References: <4B9A9EB9.4010205@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <87B02EE9-1A27-4070-9109-36FAFB41D8E7@gmail.com> i was just talking about "fibonacci day" with a friend a couple days ago, but phi day makes more sense. > 0.6180340 is an *inverse* ratio and not the actual ratio of phi which is 1.61803399 > and hence is NOT the number the fibonacci series converges to sorry to make my first post on the list a correction, but i just wanted to clarify that a fibonacci sequence (0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5 ... and also any sequence: m, n, m+n, m+2n ... ) does not converge. convergence of a sequence mean that the limit as n approaches infinity of x(n) = some finite value. the sequence of numbers that are the ratio between a number in the fibonacci sequence and the previous number converges to phi (1.618..). of course, this means that the sequence of numbers that are the ratio between a number in the fibonacci sequence and the *next* number (the inverse ratio) converges to the reciprocal of phi or 1/phi (0.618). . . . hopefully i'm getting all the terms correct, although i'm not sure. anyway, i think this is clearer. salman From asalch at math.jhu.edu Fri Mar 12 16:40:51 2010 From: asalch at math.jhu.edu (Andrew Salch) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:40:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <686ba4e41003121321w602be59aoc82f7c9b26ddc4ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B9AA019.8000309@anechoicmedia.com> <686ba4e41003121321w602be59aoc82f7c9b26ddc4ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The length of the year is the period of revolution of the Earth about the Sun. You could use the geometry of the Earth's orbit to come up with some clever reason for "phi day" to fall on a particular day of the year; that seems more satisfying (at least to me) than choosing a day based on the decimal expansion of phi, or some other non-geometric means. For example, at any moment, there is a unique rectangle that can be inscribed in the plane of the Earth's orbit such that two of the rectangle's sides are given by the major axis and the minor axis of the Earth's elliptical orbit about the Sun, with one corner of the rectangle given by the Sun, and the opposite corner of the rectangle given by the Earth. There are eight moments in each year at which that rectangle is of the correct proportions to form a golden rectangle. Perhaps someone wants to calculate on what dates those eight moments of the year fall. Or you could use the geometry of the solar system (on which our whole calendar is based) in other clever ways to pick out certain days of the year in which some proportion of distances between objects in the solar system is equal to phi. On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, David Powers wrote: > Interesting... so in the Northern Hemisphere it falls on Halloween, > which might add a new twist to the interpretation of Phi... > > Having a different date for Northern and Southern hemisphere is > problematic for a global event though. The proposed date for the > Northern Hemisphere, May 6th though, would be a practical choice if we > want to start the project now, because it is both in the near future > but distant enough that people have a reasonable amount of time to > create something. > > ~David > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: >> here's another take on the idea of Phi Day: >> >> http://www.goldenratio.org/phi_day.html >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From info at christian-quast.com Sat Mar 13 05:41:54 2010 From: info at christian-quast.com (Christian Quast) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:41:54 +0100 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: References: <4B9AA019.8000309@anechoicmedia.com> <686ba4e41003121321w602be59aoc82f7c9b26ddc4ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9B6BF2.7060102@christian-quast.com> unsubscribe -- Christian Quast ________________________________ *[futureaudio.de] Music Production* Christian Quast Kassenhofweg 4 21077 Hamburg *Office :* P: +49 [0]40 - 53793827 F: +49 [0]40 - 40164008 M: +49[0]179 - 5376498 Tax ID : 47/190/00768 *Email :* info at christian-quast.com info at futureaudio.de info at salto-recordings.com http://www.christian-quast.com http://www.myspace.com/christianquast http://www.futureaudio.de http://www.myspace.com/futureaudio http://www.salto-recordings.com http://www.myspace.com/saltorecordings http://www.myspace.com/modulatorrecordings *SKYPE *: christian_quast Andrew Salch wrote: > The length of the year is the period of revolution of the Earth about > the Sun. You could use the geometry of the Earth's orbit to come up > with some clever reason for "phi day" to fall on a particular day of > the year; that seems more satisfying (at least to me) than choosing a > day based on the decimal expansion of phi, or some other non-geometric > means. > > For example, at any moment, there is a unique rectangle that can be > inscribed in the plane of the Earth's orbit such that two of the > rectangle's sides are given by the major axis and the minor axis of > the Earth's elliptical orbit about the Sun, with one corner of the > rectangle given by the Sun, and the opposite corner of the rectangle > given by the Earth. There are eight moments in each year at which that > rectangle is of the correct proportions to form a golden rectangle. > Perhaps someone wants to calculate on what dates those eight moments > of the year fall. Or you could use the geometry of the solar system > (on which our whole calendar is based) in other clever ways to pick > out certain days of the year in which some proportion of distances > between objects in the solar system is equal to phi. > > > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, David Powers wrote: > >> Interesting... so in the Northern Hemisphere it falls on Halloween, >> which might add a new twist to the interpretation of Phi... >> >> Having a different date for Northern and Southern hemisphere is >> problematic for a global event though. The proposed date for the >> Northern Hemisphere, May 6th though, would be a practical choice if we >> want to start the project now, because it is both in the near future >> but distant enough that people have a reasonable amount of time to >> create something. >> >> ~David >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kim Cascone >> wrote: >>> here's another take on the idea of Phi Day: >>> >>> http://www.goldenratio.org/phi_day.html >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> microsound mailing list >>> microsound at microsound.org >>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kim at anechoicmedia.com Sat Mar 13 14:00:10 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:00:10 -0800 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 Message-ID: <4B9BE0BA.2000301@anechoicmedia.com> thank you Andrew and Salman for correcting me on my terminology :) it is indeed the ratio between two adjacent numbers that converges, not the sequence itself and while the Fibonacci is a 'sequence' and not a 'series' you will often find it casually referred to as the 'Fibonacci Series' instead of the 'Fibonacci Sequence' most people know what you mean when you call it (albeit incorrectly) the 'Fibonacci Series' From mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es Sun Mar 14 09:52:53 2010 From: mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es (Jaime Munarriz Ortiz) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:52:53 +0100 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 Message-ID: <4B9CEA35.1030307@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> Here's a nice playground and a lot of info on Fibonacci numbers: http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibrep.html#sumoffib From kim at anechoicmedia.com Sun Mar 14 23:12:30 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:12:30 -0700 Subject: [microsound] a belated happy Pi Day! Message-ID: <4B9DA59E.1070802@anechoicmedia.com> I was in transit from Monterey to San Francisco most of the day but I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Pi Day and am looking forward to Phi Day shall we make it June 18th then? From kim at anechoicmedia.com Mon Mar 15 22:39:39 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:39:39 -0700 Subject: [microsound] lecture on privacy Message-ID: <4B9EEF6B.1080805@anechoicmedia.com> ok .microsounders time to lecture everyone again on privacy first let me draw your attention to our legal document: http://www.microsound.org/microsoundListDisclaimer.php this legal document was crafted for us by our law firm: Dewey, Cheatham & Howe because the .microsound list is unmoderated, whatever you post becomes public domain the sad reality of posting to the public parts of the Intertubes is that there is no privacy -- sorry if that is disturbing news but wait, that's not all: not only is your post stored on the .microsound servers for a very very long time but they are often picked up by other services, such as Nabble, that comb forums and lists and publish them elsewhere essentially, every word you've ever posted to a forum or to an email list is replicated in a similar fashion and hence can be found in a multitude of places all ready to come back to haunt you one day so deleting a post from a single server is pretty much useless part of reaching adulthood is realizing no-one is responsible for your bad choices in life except you From benreviug at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 12:30:02 2010 From: benreviug at yahoo.com (guiver ben) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format convertor [mac] sought In-Reply-To: <4B9DA59E.1070802@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <696030.35305.qm@web52008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> dear Microsounders, sorry to ask, i've been looking on the net - no joy, wondering if anyone has a sample format editor [that will run on a mac] that will allow me to burn mpc 2000 compatible cd's for use with mpc... also if anyone has any knowledge of how to assign a sample across all the keys, making for a musically scaled run of the sample, that would be great too as the manual is a bit basic/oblique. all the best ben 07958 658569 From benreviug at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 12:30:02 2010 From: benreviug at yahoo.com (guiver ben) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format convertor [mac] sought In-Reply-To: <4B9DA59E.1070802@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <696030.35305.qm@web52008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> dear Microsounders, sorry to ask, i've been looking on the net - no joy, wondering if anyone has a sample format editor [that will run on a mac] that will allow me to burn mpc 2000 compatible cd's for use with mpc... also if anyone has any knowledge of how to assign a sample across all the keys, making for a musically scaled run of the sample, that would be great too as the manual is a bit basic/oblique. all the best ben 07958 658569 From herrickalan at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 12:49:31 2010 From: herrickalan at yahoo.com (Alan Herrick) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format convertor [mac] sought In-Reply-To: <696030.35305.qm@web52008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <696030.35305.qm@web52008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <417218.47921.qm@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> you might want to try a look over at bunnyhug.com maybe ???? ?and even drop a note to Stephen there - he may be able to help ?or at least point you to someone who can ________________________________ From: guiver ben To: microsound_list ; microsound at microsound.org Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 9:30:02 AM Subject: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format convertor [mac] sought dear Microsounders, sorry to ask, i've been looking on the net - no joy, wondering if anyone has a sample format editor [that will run on a mac] that will allow me to burn mpc 2000 compatible cd's for use with mpc... also if anyone has any knowledge of how to assign a sample across all the keys, making for a musically scaled run of the sample, that would be great too as the manual is a bit basic/oblique. all the best ben 07958 658569 ? ? ? _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From benreviug at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 13:11:52 2010 From: benreviug at yahoo.com (guiver ben) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format convertor [mac] sought In-Reply-To: <417218.47921.qm@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <968712.57943.qm@web52008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> sorry Alan but that sites a fashion shop. are you sure? --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Alan Herrick wrote: > From: Alan Herrick > Subject: Re: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format convertor [mac] sought > To: microsound at microsound.org > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 4:49 PM > you might want to try a > look over at bunnyhug.com maybe ???? ?and even drop a > note to Stephen there - he may be able to help > ?or at least point you to someone who can > > > > > From: guiver > ben > To: > microsound_list ; > microsound at microsound.org > Sent: Tue, > March 16, 2010 9:30:02 AM > Subject: > [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample > editor/format convertor [mac] sought > > dear Microsounders, > > sorry to ask, i've been looking on the net - no joy, > wondering if anyone has a sample format editor [that will > run on a mac] that will allow me to burn mpc 2000 compatible > cd's for use with mpc... > > also if anyone has any knowledge of how to assign a sample > across all the keys, making for a musically scaled run of > the sample, that would be great too as the manual is a bit > basic/oblique. > > all the best > > ben > 07958 658569 > > > ? ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From stan_insound at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 16 13:27:39 2010 From: stan_insound at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Nataraj) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:27:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [microsound] microsound Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <829027.70222.qm@web27403.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello all, ? I am looking for voluteers to be part of my MA Dissertation project from the north west of England. Respondents would nedd to be willing to give away a vinyl copy of a record they no longer want, partake in an oral history interview, and have some photos taken of their collection in their homes. ? The thesis title is "Scratching the Surface - Cleaning the dust off vinyl memory: Recontextualising the lost sonorities of forgotten records." ? Anyone interested please contact either via this e-mail or phone Paul on 07734107289. ? Thanks --- On Tue, 16/3/10, microsound-request at or8.net wrote: From: microsound-request at or8.net Subject: microsound Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7 To: microsound at or8.net Date: Tuesday, 16 March, 2010, 17:13 Send microsound mailing list submissions to ??? microsound at or8.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? microsound-request at or8.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? microsound-owner at or8.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of microsound digest..." Today's Topics: ???1. (no subject) (Eduardo Acosta) ???2. Re: 1.61803399 (Kim Cascone) ???3. 1.61803399 (Jaime Munarriz Ortiz) ???4. a belated happy Pi Day! (Kim Cascone) ???5. lecture on privacy (Kim Cascone) ???6. ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format??? convertor ? ? ? [mac] sought (guiver ben) ???7. ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format??? convertor ? ? ? [mac] sought (guiver ben) ???8. Re: ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format ? ? ? convertor [mac] sought (Alan Herrick) ???9. Re: ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format ? ? ? convertor [mac] sought (guiver ben) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:48:53 +0100 From: Eduardo Acosta To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: [microsound] (no subject) Message-ID: ??? <9d0ec1d61003130248i22e88968s5765b1b5ffe2aa13 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" unsuscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:00:10 -0800 From: Kim Cascone To: microsound_list Subject: Re: [microsound] 1.61803399 Message-ID: <4B9BE0BA.2000301 at anechoicmedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed thank you Andrew and Salman for correcting me on my terminology :) it is indeed the ratio between two adjacent numbers that converges, not the sequence itself and while the Fibonacci is a 'sequence' and not a 'series' you will often find it casually referred to as the 'Fibonacci Series' instead of the 'Fibonacci Sequence' most people know what you mean when you call it (albeit incorrectly) the 'Fibonacci Series' ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:52:53 +0100 From: Jaime Munarriz Ortiz To: microsound at or8.net Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 Message-ID: <4B9CEA35.1030307 at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Here's a nice playground and a lot of info on Fibonacci numbers: http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibrep.html#sumoffib ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:12:30 -0700 From: Kim Cascone To: microsound_list Subject: [microsound] a belated happy Pi Day! Message-ID: <4B9DA59E.1070802 at anechoicmedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was in transit from Monterey to San Francisco most of the day but I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Pi Day and am looking forward to Phi Day shall we make it June 18th then? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:39:39 -0700 From: Kim Cascone To: microsound_list Subject: [microsound] lecture on privacy Message-ID: <4B9EEF6B.1080805 at anechoicmedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed ok .microsounders time to lecture everyone again on privacy first let me draw your attention to our legal document: http://www.microsound.org/microsoundListDisclaimer.php this legal document was crafted for us by our law firm: Dewey, Cheatham & Howe because the .microsound list is unmoderated, whatever you post becomes public domain the sad reality of posting to the public parts of the Intertubes is that there is no privacy -- sorry if that is disturbing news but wait, that's not all: not only is your post stored on the .microsound servers for a very very long time but they are often picked up by other services, such as Nabble, that comb forums and lists and publish them elsewhere essentially, every word you've ever posted to a forum or to an email list is replicated in a similar fashion and hence can be found in a multitude of places all ready to come back to haunt you one day so deleting a post from a single server is pretty much useless part of reaching adulthood is realizing no-one is responsible for your bad choices in life except you ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: guiver ben To: microsound_list , microsound at microsound.org Subject: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format ??? convertor [mac] sought Message-ID: <696030.35305.qm at web52008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii dear Microsounders, sorry to ask, i've been looking on the net - no joy, wondering if anyone has a sample format editor [that will run on a mac] that will allow me to burn mpc 2000 compatible cd's for use with mpc... also if anyone has any knowledge of how to assign a sample across all the keys, making for a musically scaled run of the sample, that would be great too as the manual is a bit basic/oblique. all the best ben 07958 658569 ? ? ? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: guiver ben To: microsound_list , microsound at microsound.org Subject: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format ??? convertor [mac] sought Message-ID: <696030.35305.qm at web52008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii dear Microsounders, sorry to ask, i've been looking on the net - no joy, wondering if anyone has a sample format editor [that will run on a mac] that will allow me to burn mpc 2000 compatible cd's for use with mpc... also if anyone has any knowledge of how to assign a sample across all the keys, making for a musically scaled run of the sample, that would be great too as the manual is a bit basic/oblique. all the best ben 07958 658569 ? ? ? ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:49:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Herrick To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: Re: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample ??? editor/format??? convertor [mac] sought Message-ID: <417218.47921.qm at web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" you might want to try a look over at bunnyhug.com maybe ???? ?and even drop a note to Stephen there - he may be able to help ?or at least point you to someone who can ________________________________ From: guiver ben To: microsound_list ; microsound at microsound.org Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 9:30:02 AM Subject: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format convertor [mac] sought dear Microsounders, sorry to ask, i've been looking on the net - no joy, wondering if anyone has a sample format editor [that will run on a mac] that will allow me to burn mpc 2000 compatible cd's for use with mpc... also if anyone has any knowledge of how to assign a sample across all the keys, making for a musically scaled run of the sample, that would be great too as the manual is a bit basic/oblique. all the best ben 07958 658569 ? ? ? _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:11:52 -0700 (PDT) From: guiver ben To: microsound at microsound.org, Alan Herrick Subject: Re: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample ??? editor/format??? convertor [mac] sought Message-ID: <968712.57943.qm at web52008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 sorry Alan but that sites a fashion shop. are you sure? --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Alan Herrick wrote: > From: Alan Herrick > Subject: Re: [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample editor/format convertor [mac] sought > To: microsound at microsound.org > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 4:49 PM > you might want to try a > look over at bunnyhug.com maybe ???? ?and even drop a > note to Stephen there - he may be able to help > ?or at least point you to someone who can > > > > > From: guiver > ben > To: > microsound_list ; > microsound at microsound.org > Sent: Tue, > March 16, 2010 9:30:02 AM > Subject: > [microsound] ...help required...mpc 2000 sample > editor/format convertor [mac] sought > > dear Microsounders, > > sorry to ask, i've been looking on the net - no joy, > wondering if anyone has a sample format editor [that will > run on a mac] that will allow me to burn mpc 2000 compatible > cd's for use with mpc... > > also if anyone has any knowledge of how to assign a sample > across all the keys, making for a musically scaled run of > the sample, that would be great too as the manual is a bit > basic/oblique. > > all the best > > ben > 07958 658569 > > > ? ? ? >? > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > ? ? ? ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound End of microsound Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7 ***************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From c.reider at vuzhmusic.com Wed Mar 17 00:30:06 2010 From: c.reider at vuzhmusic.com (C. Reider) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:30:06 -0600 Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? My main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient noise. Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? c. reider ... From palace at guero.sr.unh.edu Wed Mar 17 01:09:29 2010 From: palace at guero.sr.unh.edu (Palace) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:09:29 -0400 Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording In-Reply-To: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> References: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> Message-ID: Zoom h4. On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:30 AM, "C. Reider" wrote: > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? My > main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm > looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety > of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, > closeup or ambient noise. Any low-end equipment out there that's > worth a darn? > > c. reider > ... > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From ernst at pulsewidth.ca Wed Mar 17 01:22:46 2010 From: ernst at pulsewidth.ca (Ernie Dulanowsky) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:22:46 -0600 Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording In-Reply-To: References: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> Message-ID: <321dfa6a1003162222j7a422aa0g4251075f18877b8e@mail.gmail.com> Zoom H2. Less expensive than the H4, but it has four mics, so it can do some interesting surround-type recordings. It can also be used as a USB audio interface in a pinch... Cheers, ernie On Tuesday, March 16, 2010, Palace wrote: > Zoom h4. > > > > On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:30 AM, "C. Reider" wrote: > > > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? ?My main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient noise. ?Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? > > c. reider > ... > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- ++++++++++++++++ Ernie Dulanowsky www.pulsewidth.ca ++++++++++++++++ From lsutton at libero.it Wed Mar 17 04:10:24 2010 From: lsutton at libero.it (Lorenzo) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:10:24 +0100 Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording In-Reply-To: References: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> Message-ID: <4BA08E70.5050805@libero.it> > Zoom h4. I have one of those and am overall pretty happy. Considering there's a new version now you might find the previous one second hand pretty cheap. > > > > On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:30 AM, "C. Reider" wrote: > >> Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? My >> main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm >> looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety >> of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, >> closeup or ambient noise. Any low-end equipment out there that's >> worth a darn? >> >> c. reider >> ... >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From fbar at footils.org Wed Mar 17 04:23:06 2010 From: fbar at footils.org (Frank Barknecht) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:23:06 +0100 Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording In-Reply-To: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> References: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> Message-ID: <20100317082306.GA19057@footils.org> Hallo, C. Reider hat gesagt: // C. Reider wrote: > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? My > main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking > for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field > recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient > noise. Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? This is the best quickstart overview I found while recently shoping for a mobile recorder myself: http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html I settled on the Sony PCM M10 with the Olympus L10/11 devices coming in second place for me. Here are the first quick recordings I did with the Sony inn the "field": http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2010/feb/04/kolner-prinzengarde-sony-pcm-m10/ Ciao -- Frank From greghpr at yahoo.com.au Wed Mar 17 06:22:03 2010 From: greghpr at yahoo.com.au (greg hooper) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording In-Reply-To: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> References: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> Message-ID: <175577.57239.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have recently bought the sony pcm m10 and would definitely recommend it. Most anything will be good, but the sony is very quiet and has great battery life. Handling noise is low as well and I just shove it inside a rycote windjammer and wander about recording. Couldn't be easier. www.greg-hooper.com ________________________________ From: C. Reider To: microsound list Sent: Wed, 17 March, 2010 2:30:06 PM Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? My main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient noise. Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? c. reider ... _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Wed Mar 17 06:55:55 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:55:55 +0100 Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording In-Reply-To: <20100317082306.GA19057@footils.org> References: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> <20100317082306.GA19057@footils.org> Message-ID: <536D101E-F7B2-4323-9F0F-4309D00D22DC@sunrise.ch> my two cents: I'd buy a Zoom H2. the four mics (90? / 120? / quad / quad-to-stereo) allow for a great range of uses (including interview- like situations where you want a clear recording your voice/instrument/ noise and that of a person facing you). i originally had a H4, and found the noise floor much too high for the thing to be of any use in field recording. however, judging from the positiv reaction the device has got from other people, it might just be a matter of personal taste or perception. I'd go for the H2. it even costs less than the H4 (haven't checked right now, though). hope this is of any help. tobias Am 17.03.2010 um 09:23 schrieb Frank Barknecht: > Hallo, > C. Reider hat gesagt: // C. Reider wrote: > >> Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? My >> main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm >> looking >> for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field >> recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or >> ambient >> noise. Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? > > This is the best quickstart overview I found while recently shoping > for a > mobile recorder myself: > http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html > > I settled on the Sony PCM M10 with the Olympus L10/11 devices coming > in second > place for me. Here are the first quick recordings I did with the > Sony inn the > "field": > http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2010/feb/04/kolner-prinzengarde-sony-pcm-m10/ > > Ciao > -- > Frank > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound --- Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.myspace.com/stereorabbi From port.a.life at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 07:43:35 2010 From: port.a.life at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:43:35 -0400 Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording In-Reply-To: <20100317082306.GA19057@footils.org> References: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124@vuzhmusic.com> <20100317082306.GA19057@footils.org> Message-ID: I use the marantz pmd 620 it is amazing. I don't know if it fits the "low end" but you won't be disappointed with the quality. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > C. Reider hat gesagt: // C. Reider wrote: > > > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? My > > main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking > > for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field > > recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient > > noise. Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? > > This is the best quickstart overview I found while recently shoping for a > mobile recorder myself: > > http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html > > I settled on the Sony PCM M10 with the Olympus L10/11 devices coming in > second > place for me. Here are the first quick recordings I did with the Sony inn > the > "field": > http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2010/feb/04/kolner-prinzengarde-sony-pcm-m10/ > > Ciao > -- > Frank > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- paulshuler.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikamartini at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 10:38:00 2010 From: mikamartini at yahoo.com (Mika Martini) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording reviews and ratings In-Reply-To: <20100317082306.GA19057@footils.org> Message-ID: <26774.66410.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi! ? Here are a web with reviews and ratings, sound samples, compare spect?(and prices): ? http://www.wingfieldaudio.com/portable-recorder-reviews.html ? and, well, with a few euros more... http://www.pro-sound.com/BrandSax/SSAXMINIR82.html ? best, Mika + + + + + + + + + + + + +? [M!M] [CHILE] [www.pueblonuevo.cl] [www.myspace.com/mikamartini] [www.twitter.com/mikamartini]? ? ? --- El mi?, 3/17/10, Frank Barknecht escribi?: De: Frank Barknecht Asunto: Re: [microsound] hand-held recording A: microsound at or8.net Fecha: mi?rcoles, 17 de marzo de 2010, 06:23 am Hallo, C. Reider hat gesagt: // C. Reider wrote: > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices?? My? > main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking > for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field > recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient > noise.? Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? This is the best quickstart overview I found while recently shoping for a mobile recorder myself: http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html I settled on the Sony PCM M10 with the Olympus L10/11 devices coming in second place for me.? Here are the first quick recordings I did with the Sony inn the "field": http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2010/feb/04/kolner-prinzengarde-sony-pcm-m10/ Ciao -- Frank _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound ____________________________________________________________________________________ ?Obt?n la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From locrian at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 14:59:16 2010 From: locrian at gmail.com (Salman Bakht) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:59:16 -0700 Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording reviews and ratings In-Reply-To: <26774.66410.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <26774.66410.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <834CBD1C-BF0E-4184-9D8F-722CF586FA69@gmail.com> i have an H2. i found the external mic input to be noisy, although i might have been doing something wrong. (i didn't troubleshoot since i had a minidisc recorder on hand.) i've used the internal mics plenty, though, and considering the price ($160 . . now $140 on amazon) and convenience, i think it was worth it. anyway, with the main consideration of money (which i had), i think the goal is to find a recorder that's on sale just because there happens to be a newer version that just came out. it might allow you to look into a higher category of recorders than you expected. salman From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Thu Mar 18 07:20:10 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:20:10 +0100 Subject: [microsound] 1.61803399 In-Reply-To: <4B9CEA35.1030307@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> References: <4B9CEA35.1030307@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> Message-ID: hi group, did anybody ever realise that in terms of the amount of letters used, 'golden mean' is to 'golden' as 'golden' is to 'mean' golden mean : golden = golden : mean 10 : 6 = 6 : 4 well, almost... :-) tobias --- Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.myspace.com/stereorabbi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Paul Nataraj --- On Wed, 17/3/10, microsound-request at or8.net wrote: From: microsound-request at or8.net Subject: microsound Digest, Vol 15, Issue 9 To: microsound at or8.net Date: Wednesday, 17 March, 2010, 11:44 Send microsound mailing list submissions to ??? microsound at or8.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? microsound-request at or8.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? microsound-owner at or8.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of microsound digest..." Today's Topics: ???1. hand-held recording (C. Reider) ???2. Re: hand-held recording (Palace) ???3. Re: hand-held recording (Ernie Dulanowsky) ???4. Re: hand-held recording (Lorenzo) ???5. Re: hand-held recording (Frank Barknecht) ???6. Re: hand-held recording (greg hooper) ???7. Re: hand-held recording (Tobias Reber) ???8. Re: hand-held recording (Paul) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:30:06 -0600 From: "C. Reider" To: microsound list Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: <09D5981D-2ADF-4283-BD02-F4C054ECC124 at vuzhmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices?? My? main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm? looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety? of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet,? closeup or ambient noise.? Any low-end equipment out there that's? worth a darn? c. reider ... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:09:29 -0400 From: Palace To: "microsound at microsound.org" Subject: Re: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii;??? format=flowed;??? delsp=yes Zoom h4. On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:30 AM, "C. Reider" ? wrote: > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices?? My? > main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm? > looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety? > of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet,? > closeup or ambient noise.? Any low-end equipment out there that's? > worth a darn? > > c. reider > ... > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:22:46 -0600 From: Ernie Dulanowsky To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: Re: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: ??? <321dfa6a1003162222j7a422aa0g4251075f18877b8e at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Zoom H2. Less expensive than the H4, but it has four mics, so it can do some interesting surround-type recordings. It can also be used as a USB audio interface in a pinch... Cheers, ernie On Tuesday, March 16, 2010, Palace wrote: > Zoom h4. > > > > On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:30 AM, "C. Reider" wrote: > > > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices? ?My main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient noise. ?Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? > > c. reider > ... > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- ++++++++++++++++ Ernie Dulanowsky www.pulsewidth.ca ++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:10:24 +0100 From: Lorenzo To: microsound at or8.net Subject: Re: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: <4BA08E70.5050805 at libero.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Zoom h4. I have one of those and am overall pretty happy. Considering there's a new version now you might find the previous one second hand pretty cheap. > > > > On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:30 AM, "C. Reider" wrote: > >> Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices?? My >> main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm >> looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety >> of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, >> closeup or ambient noise.? Any low-end equipment out there that's >> worth a darn? >> >> c. reider >> ... >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:23:06 +0100 From: Frank Barknecht To: microsound at or8.net Subject: Re: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: <20100317082306.GA19057 at footils.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hallo, C. Reider hat gesagt: // C. Reider wrote: > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices?? My? > main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking > for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field > recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient > noise.? Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? This is the best quickstart overview I found while recently shoping for a mobile recorder myself: http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html I settled on the Sony PCM M10 with the Olympus L10/11 devices coming in second place for me.? Here are the first quick recordings I did with the Sony inn the "field": http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2010/feb/04/kolner-prinzengarde-sony-pcm-m10/ Ciao -- Frank ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:22:03 -0700 (PDT) From: greg hooper To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: Re: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: <175577.57239.qm at web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I have recently bought the sony pcm m10 and would definitely recommend it. Most anything will be good, but the sony is very quiet and has great battery life. Handling noise is low as well and I just shove it inside a rycote windjammer and wander about recording. Couldn't be easier. www.greg-hooper.com ________________________________ From: C. Reider To: microsound list Sent: Wed, 17 March, 2010 2:30:06 PM Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices?? My main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient noise.? Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? c. reider ... _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:55:55 +0100 From: Tobias Reber To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: Re: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: <536D101E-F7B2-4323-9F0F-4309D00D22DC at sunrise.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes my two cents: I'd buy a Zoom H2. the four mics (90? / 120? / quad /? quad-to-stereo) allow for a great range of uses (including interview- like situations where you want a clear recording your voice/instrument/ noise and that of a person facing you). i originally had a H4, and found the noise floor much too high for the? thing to be of any use in field recording. however, judging from the? positiv reaction the device has got from other people, it might just? be a matter of personal taste or perception. I'd go for the H2. it even costs less than the H4 (haven't checked? right now, though). hope this is of any help. tobias Am 17.03.2010 um 09:23 schrieb Frank Barknecht: > Hallo, > C. Reider hat gesagt: // C. Reider wrote: > >> Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices?? My >> main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm? >> looking >> for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field >> recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or? >> ambient >> noise.? Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? > > This is the best quickstart overview I found while recently shoping? > for a > mobile recorder myself: > http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html > > I settled on the Sony PCM M10 with the Olympus L10/11 devices coming? > in second > place for me.? Here are the first quick recordings I did with the? > Sony inn the > "field": > http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2010/feb/04/kolner-prinzengarde-sony-pcm-m10/ > > Ciao > -- > Frank > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound --- Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.myspace.com/stereorabbi ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:43:35 -0400 From: Paul To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: Re: [microsound] hand-held recording Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I use the marantz pmd 620 it is amazing. I don't know if it fits the "low end" but you won't be disappointed with the quality. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > C. Reider hat gesagt: // C. Reider wrote: > > > Can anyone give recommendations for hand-held recording devices?? My > > main consideration is money, I don't want to spend much... I'm looking > > for built-in stereo mics relatively good for a wide variety of field > > recording applications, inside or out, noisy or quiet, closeup or ambient > > noise.? Any low-end equipment out there that's worth a darn? > > This is the best quickstart overview I found while recently shoping for a > mobile recorder myself: > > http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html > > I settled on the Sony PCM M10 with the Olympus L10/11 devices coming in > second > place for me.? Here are the first quick recordings I did with the Sony inn > the > "field": > http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2010/feb/04/kolner-prinzengarde-sony-pcm-m10/ > > Ciao > -- > Frank > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- paulshuler.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound End of microsound Digest, Vol 15, Issue 9 ***************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steinbruchel at synchron.ch Thu Mar 18 15:34:52 2010 From: steinbruchel at synchron.ch (steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:34:52 +0100 Subject: [microsound] contact in dresden Message-ID: hi all i'll in dresden for two days at the end of april and i was wondering if anybody might have a contact or recommendation for a possible performance space there. thank you! ralph. -- .:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:. From n_q at gmx.net Thu Mar 18 17:06:47 2010 From: n_q at gmx.net (Nils Quak) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:06:47 +0100 Subject: [microsound] contact in dresden In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I only know Festspielhaus Hellerau http://t-m-a.de/ They were nice people and the venue is just amazing. Best, Nils Am 18.03.2010 um 20:34 schrieb steinbr?chel: > hi all > i'll in dresden for two days at the end of april and i was wondering if > anybody might have a contact or recommendation for a possible performance > space there. > > thank you! > ralph. > > -- > > .:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:. > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From robin at robinparmar.com Thu Mar 25 23:46:49 2010 From: robin at robinparmar.com (Robin Parmar) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] hand-held recording In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <51333.79491.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Frank Barknecht wrote: > This is the best quickstart overview I found while > recently shoping for a mobile recorder myself: > http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html Thanks, that's my site. > I settled on the Sony PCM M10 with the Olympus L10/11 > devices coming in second place for me. I own both and like both. The Olympus has the best construction of any mini recorder I've seen: totally solid, metal everywhere, great responsive controls. The built-in mics are cardioid so it is more directional than the Sony M10, though the Sony's mics have less self-noise as a result of being omnis. The Sony has a pre-record buffer and a couple of other nice features, but it is larger and a couple of the controls (eg power switch) seem cheap to me. It lasts forever on its batteries but the Olympus certainly lasts long enough for most practical purposes. The LS10 has the advantage of being cheaper but does not come with a remote in all markets and has less built-in memory. You will definitely want to use external mics at some point, not only to get better sound, but so you can position them where you want. Both of these units have much better mic pre-amps than the cheaper mini recorders. For my applications I would not touch the Zooms with a ten-foot boom. Please see my series of articles for details. -- robin From benreviug at yahoo.com Mon Mar 29 11:14:27 2010 From: benreviug at yahoo.com (guiver ben) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] help required with problematic installation of jitter 1.6.3 In-Reply-To: <4B7188DA.9070807@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <140181.26844.qm@web52005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Dear Microsounders hello, i'm trying to install jitter on a g4 tower running 10.4.11, with 1 gig RAM and an audiowerk sound card that's configured to be the output and input for lloopp. i have installed max runtime 4.6.3, and lloopp works fine. however, when i try to install jitter 1.6.3, (and jitter 1.6.2) i get the message in the installation process - when you get to the bit about what drive the program is installed onto - that 'you cannot install jitter 16 on this volume. Max/MSP 4.6 or greater is required to use this version of jitter.' i get this message even if i have the max runtime running whilst trying to install, and really cannot understand what is wrong since max/msp is installed in the applications folder on the os drive. does anyone know why this happens please? i'd be very very grateful for any help since this is so extremely frustrating, i'd like to be able to use video as well as audio.... best ben guiver: london 07958 658569 From benreviug at yahoo.com Mon Mar 29 11:14:27 2010 From: benreviug at yahoo.com (guiver ben) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] help required with problematic installation of jitter 1.6.3 In-Reply-To: <4B7188DA.9070807@anechoicmedia.com> Message-ID: <140181.26844.qm@web52005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Dear Microsounders hello, i'm trying to install jitter on a g4 tower running 10.4.11, with 1 gig RAM and an audiowerk sound card that's configured to be the output and input for lloopp. i have installed max runtime 4.6.3, and lloopp works fine. however, when i try to install jitter 1.6.3, (and jitter 1.6.2) i get the message in the installation process - when you get to the bit about what drive the program is installed onto - that 'you cannot install jitter 16 on this volume. Max/MSP 4.6 or greater is required to use this version of jitter.' i get this message even if i have the max runtime running whilst trying to install, and really cannot understand what is wrong since max/msp is installed in the applications folder on the os drive. does anyone know why this happens please? i'd be very very grateful for any help since this is so extremely frustrating, i'd like to be able to use video as well as audio.... best ben guiver: london 07958 658569 From mmi at art.pte.hu Tue Mar 30 10:33:34 2010 From: mmi at art.pte.hu (Kovacs Balazs) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:33:34 +0200 Subject: [microsound] =?iso-8859-1?q?makram=E9_-_maxmsp_patch_sources?= In-Reply-To: <51333.79491.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <51333.79491.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BB20BBE.2050201@art.pte.hu> Dear list, just started a webpage for publishing maxmsp patches. it calls Makram? and waits for visit at http://makrame.periszkopradio.hu/ We're waiting for the contributions: self-developed patches, modules and everything what is more abstract than an object but not so complex like a media art work :) So, if interested, please visit, register, and upload the works! Best, Bal?zs -- PTE-MK MAMI PTE Muveszeti Kar, Media- es Alkalmazott Muveszetek Intezete H-7624 Pecs, Damjanich u. 30. tel/fax:+36(72)501540 mobil:+36(20)2331867 e-mail: mmi at art.pte.hu weblap: http://www.art.pte.hu/menu/92 From flemminglyst at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 07:51:19 2010 From: flemminglyst at gmail.com (flemming lyst) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:51:19 +0200 Subject: [microsound] emergens and fur elise project Message-ID: hi microsounders, i'm researching for music related stuff of "emergens"-character. from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence: "In philosophy , systems theory, science , and art, *emergence* is the way complex systemsand patterns arise out of a multiplicityof relatively simple interactions. Emergence is central to the theories of integrative levels and of complex systems ." imo wayne siegel's "domino figues" is an obvious example: http://totem.menneske.dk/batch_totem/BIN/ here is an on-going emergens music project of mine i'd like to share with you, check it out at: http://www.youtube.com/fureliseproject please write on or offlist with your thoughts/links/names/pieces of emergens as the most prominent "character". thanks and cheers, eske n?rholm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: