From simonroychristensen at gmail.com Wed Jun 2 18:47:19 2010 From: simonroychristensen at gmail.com (Simon Roy Christensen) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 00:47:19 +0200 Subject: [microsound] music and/including nature in its manner of operation Message-ID: hello hello I'm about to write a music-historical paper/essay on music including nature, or maybe rather the acting of nature. Here I'm thinking of examples like some of Max Eastley's sound sculptures, Paul Panhuysen and C?leste Boursier-Mougenot use of birds, the sounds of fungi and plants made audible by Michael Prime or John Cage's "Atlas Eclipticalis" (notation derived from the position of stars), for instance. If any of you have recommendations to artists, works or literature or something else that spring to mind which might have some kind of relevance to this, it would be very nice to hear! thank you, simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(The music is also very pretty.) cheers, Brendan heyexit.com On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Simon Roy Christensen wrote: > hello hello > > I'm about to write a music-historical paper/essay on music including > nature, or maybe rather the acting of nature. Here I'm thinking of > examples like some of Max Eastley's sound sculptures, Paul Panhuysen > and C?leste Boursier-Mougenot use of birds, the sounds of fungi and > plants made audible by Michael Prime or John Cage's "Atlas > Eclipticalis" (notation derived from the position of stars), for > instance. > If any of you have recommendations to artists, works or literature > or something else that spring to mind which might have some kind of > relevance to this, it would be very nice to hear! > > thank you, > > simon > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aherrick at pacbell.net Wed Jun 2 19:22:53 2010 From: aherrick at pacbell.net (Alan Herrick) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 16:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] music and/including nature in its manner of operation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <404452.7932.qm@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Graeme Revells - The Insect Musicians http://home.scarlet.be/~spk/spktheinsectmusicians.htm http://thethingonthedoorstep.blogspot.com/2007/11/graeme-revell-insect-musicians-and.html ________________________________ From: Simon Roy Christensen To: microsound at microsound.org Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 3:47:19 PM Subject: [microsound] music and/including nature in its manner of operation hello hello I'm about to write a music-historical paper/essay on music including nature, or maybe rather the acting of nature. Here I'm thinking of examples like some of Max Eastley's sound sculptures, Paul Panhuysen and C?leste Boursier-Mougenot use of birds, the sounds of fungi and plants made audible by Michael Prime or John Cage's "Atlas Eclipticalis" (notation derived from the position of stars), for instance. If any of you have recommendations to artists, works or literature or something else that spring to mind which might have some kind of relevance to this, it would be very nice to hear! thank you, simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From renato.fabbri at gmail.com Wed Jun 2 19:22:49 2010 From: renato.fabbri at gmail.com (Renato Fabbri) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:22:49 -0300 Subject: [microsound] music and/including nature in its manner of operation In-Reply-To: <9BF462B0-549D-4954-BD81-F905CCC077D3@brendanlandis.com> References: <9BF462B0-549D-4954-BD81-F905CCC077D3@brendanlandis.com> Message-ID: lots of francois bayle's works sounds like imitations of natural soundscapes (with birds, insects, water, etc). i dont recall which works are like these the best, but i think there are even some music with flower names. best, rf 2010/6/2 Brendan Landis : > Mamoru Fujieda has a series called?Patterns of Plants. There are a couple > discs out on Tzadik.?From their web site: > "Generating melodic material through the micro-changes of surface-electric > potential on leaves, Mamoru Fujieda's second Tzadik release was composed > completely based on data taken from plants. " > He also wrote an essay about the series and his process, which is published > in the most recent volume of the Arcana series.?(The music is also very > pretty.) > > cheers, > Brendan > heyexit.com > > On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Simon Roy Christensen wrote: > > hello hello > I'm about to write a music-historical paper/essay on music including nature, > or maybe rather the acting of nature. Here I'm thinking of examples like > some of Max Eastley's sound sculptures, Paul Panhuysen and C?leste > Boursier-Mougenot use of birds, the sounds of fungi and plants made audible > by Michael Prime or John Cage's "Atlas Eclipticalis" (notation derived from > the position of stars), for instance. > If any of you have recommendations to artists, works or literature or > something else that spring to mind which might have some kind of relevance > to this, it would be very nice to hear! > thank you, > simon > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -- Linux User #479299 skype: fabbri.renato From ermesros at gmail.com Thu Jun 3 04:53:53 2010 From: ermesros at gmail.com (Ermes Rosina) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:53:53 +0200 Subject: [microsound] music and/including nature in its manner of operation In-Reply-To: References: <9BF462B0-549D-4954-BD81-F905CCC077D3@brendanlandis.com> Message-ID: I think that David Dunn's work is very interesting... http://www.davidddunn.com/~david/ I suggest you to read his writings, scores and listen to his sounds.... best ermes rosina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at maxviel.it Thu Jun 3 06:03:21 2010 From: mail at maxviel.it (Massimiliano Viel) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:03:21 +0200 Subject: [microsound] music and/including nature in its manner of operation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just to mention a few very classic composers (apart from Messiaen): K.Stockhausen (Sternklang) and Fran?ois Bernard M?che, who also wrote a book on "Myth and Nature, or The Dolphins of Arion". I would also add the zoomusicologist and composer Dario Martinelli. By the way I have realized a sort of sound planetarium as a precise sound representation of the movement of stars and planets (and objects in general) in the celestial vault. m Il giorno 03/giu/2010, alle ore 00.47, Simon Roy Christensen ha scritto: > hello hello > > I'm about to write a music-historical paper/essay on music including nature, or maybe rather the acting of nature. Here I'm thinking of examples like some of Max Eastley's sound sculptures, Paul Panhuysen and C?leste Boursier-Mougenot use of birds, the sounds of fungi and plants made audible by Michael Prime or John Cage's "Atlas Eclipticalis" (notation derived from the position of stars), for instance. > If any of you have recommendations to artists, works or literature or something else that spring to mind which might have some kind of relevance to this, it would be very nice to hear! > > thank you, > > simon > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound __________________________________ M a s s i m i l i a n o V i e l MAIN SITE! -------------> http://www.maxviel.it BLOG! -------> http://maxviel.wordpress.com/ http://www.myspace.com/massimilianoviel http://www.ssim-el.net http://www.otolab.net http://www.sincronie.org __________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From mmi at art.pte.hu Thu Jun 3 15:53:48 2010 From: mmi at art.pte.hu (Kovacs Balazs) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:53:48 +0200 Subject: [microsound] vinyl cutting in cologne Message-ID: <4C08084C.9090708@art.pte.hu> Dear List, do You know about somebody in Cologne who could cut two .wav files to a 1-copy 12" vinyl? if possible no dubplate, but vinyl recorder. Thanks, best wishes: Bal?zs -- PTE-MK MAMI PTE Muveszeti Kar, Media- es Alkalmazott Muveszetek Intezete H-7624 Pecs, Damjanich u. 30. tel/fax:+36(72)501540 mobil:+36(20)2331867 e-mail: mmi at art.pte.hu weblap: http://www.art.pte.hu/menu/92 From grahammiller at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 3 16:51:29 2010 From: grahammiller at sympatico.ca (Graham Miller) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:51:29 -0400 Subject: [microsound] vinyl cutting in cologne In-Reply-To: <4C08084C.9090708@art.pte.hu> References: <4C08084C.9090708@art.pte.hu> Message-ID: not cologne, but berlin, no problem... http://www.manmademastering.com/manmade_mastering/machines.html g. On 2010-06-03, at 3:53 PM, Kovacs Balazs wrote: > Dear List, > > do You know about somebody in Cologne who could cut two .wav files > to a 1-copy 12" vinyl? if possible no dubplate, but vinyl recorder. > > Thanks, > best wishes: > Bal?zs > > -- > > PTE-MK MAMI > PTE Muveszeti Kar, Media- es Alkalmazott Muveszetek Intezete > H-7624 Pecs, Damjanich u. 30. > tel/fax:+36(72)501540 > mobil:+36(20)2331867 > e-mail: mmi at art.pte.hu > weblap: http://www.art.pte.hu/menu/92 > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From cyborgk at gmail.com Thu Jun 3 16:56:04 2010 From: cyborgk at gmail.com (David Powers) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:56:04 -0500 Subject: [microsound] vinyl cutting in cologne In-Reply-To: References: <4C08084C.9090708@art.pte.hu> Message-ID: Yes, that is Tim Xavier. I can HIGHLY recommend him, he learned to cut with one of the best older guys who was retiring in New York City, and when he cut my record did an absolutely amazing job. ~David On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Graham Miller wrote: > not cologne, but berlin, no problem... > > http://www.manmademastering.com/manmade_mastering/machines.html > > g. > > On 2010-06-03, at 3:53 PM, Kovacs Balazs wrote: > >> Dear List, >> >> do You know about somebody in Cologne who could cut two .wav files >> to a 1-copy 12" vinyl? if possible no dubplate, but vinyl recorder. >> >> Thanks, >> best wishes: >> Bal?zs >> >> -- >> >> PTE-MK MAMI >> PTE Muveszeti Kar, Media- es Alkalmazott Muveszetek Intezete >> H-7624 Pecs, Damjanich u. 30. >> tel/fax:+36(72)501540 >> mobil:+36(20)2331867 >> e-mail: mmi at art.pte.hu >> weblap: ? ? ? http://www.art.pte.hu/menu/92 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From jasonnanna at gmail.com Mon Jun 7 19:21:13 2010 From: jasonnanna at gmail.com (Jason Nanna) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:21:13 -0500 Subject: [microsound] Milwaukee Microsound? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here I am! ;) On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Erik Schoster wrote: > Hi all - > > I just moved back to Milwaukee last week - are there any Milwaukee > microsounders on the list? What about good community resources and event > pages, etc? > > I just checked out an excellent improvised music show at Sugar Maple > recently - it's not microsound-specific, but is certainly a > microsound-friendly venue in Bay View. (I'm also working on organizing a > computer music event there in the next month or two, so feel free to contact > me if that sounds interesting.) > > Milwaukee microsounders, sound off! > > Best, > Erik > > == projects == > work: http://www.hecanjog.com | http://www.heythere.org > community: http://www.luvsound.org > label: http://wolf.luvsound.org > band: http://www.cedarav.com > > == social media == > voicemail: 347-410-6440 > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eschoster > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hecanjog > blog: http://blog.hecanjog.com > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roger at eartrumpet.org Tue Jun 8 09:40:17 2010 From: roger at eartrumpet.org (Roger Mills) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:40:17 +1000 Subject: [microsound] anyone up for a new project? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6B1F7165-95CC-4D5B-8C58-12297B140C52@eartrumpet.org> Hi Bryce, Look I'm really sorry to do this but I wonder if we could postpone the jam tomorrow. We have Laurie Anderson here in Sydney, and I have been asked to record an interview with her. This is a bit of a once in a lifetime opportunity to meet someone that inspires...hope you don't mind.. Friday ? Roger -- Roger Mills http://www.eartrumpet.org http://www.furthernoise.org http://ethernetorchestra.netpraxis.net M: 0403 414495 On 05/01/2010, at 7:25 AM, bryce beverlin II wrote: > lkg82:// > > my file of "microaccosted" has been uploaded! > bryce > > XIX bryce beverlin II http://www.insidesmusic.com/bryce [home] http://deathproj.com > [film] . > > > ***************************************** > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roger at eartrumpet.org Tue Jun 8 09:51:45 2010 From: roger at eartrumpet.org (Roger Mills) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:51:45 +1000 Subject: [microsound] anyone up for a new project? In-Reply-To: <6B1F7165-95CC-4D5B-8C58-12297B140C52@eartrumpet.org> References: <6B1F7165-95CC-4D5B-8C58-12297B140C52@eartrumpet.org> Message-ID: Gaud......so sorry folks that was a mistaken reply to Bryce..thought I was replying personally. Embarrassing. Apologies Roger -- Roger Mills http://www.eartrumpet.org http://www.furthernoise.org http://ethernetorchestra.netpraxis.net M: 0403 414495 On 08/06/2010, at 11:40 PM, Roger Mills wrote: > Hi Bryce, > > Look I'm really sorry to do this but I wonder if we could postpone > the jam tomorrow. We have Laurie Anderson here in Sydney, and I have > been asked to record an interview with her. This is a bit of a once > in a lifetime opportunity to meet someone that inspires...hope you > don't mind.. > > Friday ? > > Roger > -- > Roger Mills > http://www.eartrumpet.org > http://www.furthernoise.org > > http://ethernetorchestra.netpraxis.net > > M: 0403 414495 > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/01/2010, at 7:25 AM, bryce beverlin II wrote: > >> lkg82:// >> >> my file of "microaccosted" has been uploaded! >> bryce >> >> XIX bryce beverlin II http://www.insidesmusic.com/bryce [home] http://deathproj.com >> [film] . >> >> > ***************************************** >> >> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mnelson2 at wisc.edu Tue Jun 8 13:55:38 2010 From: mnelson2 at wisc.edu (MSC Nelson) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:55:38 -0500 Subject: [microsound] Milwaukee Microsound? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08A89B2D36374F749D0E41EFAC40B927@sohe.ad.wisc.edu> Jason, Erik and all: I'm in Madison, but interested in Milwaukee as well because it is so close and would also be interested in knowing of anyone else on the list. Just started working on a local resource list recently. Maybe should pick up the pace? Mark Mark nelson mnelson2 at wisc.edu -----Original Message----- From: microsound-bounces at or8.net [mailto:microsound-bounces at or8.net] On Behalf Of microsound-request at or8.net Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:52 AM To: microsound at or8.net Subject: microsound Digest, Vol 18, Issue 3 Send microsound mailing list submissions to microsound at or8.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to microsound-request at or8.net You can reach the person managing the list at microsound-owner at or8.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of microsound digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Milwaukee Microsound? (Jason Nanna) 2. Re: anyone up for a new project? (Roger Mills) 3. Re: anyone up for a new project? (Roger Mills) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:21:13 -0500 From: Jason Nanna To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: Re: [microsound] Milwaukee Microsound? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here I am! ;) On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Erik Schoster wrote: > Hi all - > > I just moved back to Milwaukee last week - are there any Milwaukee > microsounders on the list? What about good community resources and event > pages, etc? > > I just checked out an excellent improvised music show at Sugar Maple > recently - it's not microsound-specific, but is certainly a > microsound-friendly venue in Bay View. (I'm also working on organizing a > computer music event there in the next month or two, so feel free to contact > me if that sounds interesting.) > > Milwaukee microsounders, sound off! > > Best, > Erik > > == projects == > work: http://www.hecanjog.com | http://www.heythere.org > community: http://www.luvsound.org > label: http://wolf.luvsound.org > band: http://www.cedarav.com > > == social media == > voicemail: 347-410-6440 > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eschoster > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hecanjog > blog: http://blog.hecanjog.com > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:40:17 +1000 From: Roger Mills To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: Re: [microsound] anyone up for a new project? Message-ID: <6B1F7165-95CC-4D5B-8C58-12297B140C52 at eartrumpet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Hi Bryce, Look I'm really sorry to do this but I wonder if we could postpone the jam tomorrow. We have Laurie Anderson here in Sydney, and I have been asked to record an interview with her. This is a bit of a once in a lifetime opportunity to meet someone that inspires...hope you don't mind.. Friday ? Roger -- Roger Mills http://www.eartrumpet.org http://www.furthernoise.org http://ethernetorchestra.netpraxis.net M: 0403 414495 On 05/01/2010, at 7:25 AM, bryce beverlin II wrote: > lkg82:// > > my file of "microaccosted" has been uploaded! > bryce > > XIX bryce beverlin II http://www.insidesmusic.com/bryce [home] http://deathproj.com > [film] . > > > ***************************************** > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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We have Laurie Anderson here in Sydney, and I have > been asked to record an interview with her. This is a bit of a once > in a lifetime opportunity to meet someone that inspires...hope you > don't mind.. > > Friday ? > > Roger > -- > Roger Mills > http://www.eartrumpet.org > http://www.furthernoise.org > > http://ethernetorchestra.netpraxis.net > > M: 0403 414495 > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/01/2010, at 7:25 AM, bryce beverlin II wrote: > >> lkg82:// >> >> my file of "microaccosted" has been uploaded! >> bryce >> >> XIX bryce beverlin II http://www.insidesmusic.com/bryce [home] http://deathproj.com >> [film] . >> >> > ***************************************** >> >> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound End of microsound Digest, Vol 18, Issue 3 ***************************************** From damian.ml at frey.co.nz Wed Jun 9 17:34:29 2010 From: damian.ml at frey.co.nz (Damian Stewart) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:34:29 +0200 Subject: [microsound] music and/including nature in its manner of operation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5B5E06C7-D593-48C0-ADE7-FFBE3653A987@frey.co.nz> my work 'wind' makes sound/music from the visual aspects of wind blowing in grass/trees: http://frey.co.nz/wind chur d On 03 Jun 2010, at 00:47, Simon Roy Christensen wrote: > hello hello > > I'm about to write a music-historical paper/essay on music including nature, or maybe rather the acting of nature. Here I'm thinking of examples like some of Max Eastley's sound sculptures, Paul Panhuysen and C?leste Boursier-Mougenot use of birds, the sounds of fungi and plants made audible by Michael Prime or John Cage's "Atlas Eclipticalis" (notation derived from the position of stars), for instance. > If any of you have recommendations to artists, works or literature or something else that spring to mind which might have some kind of relevance to this, it would be very nice to hear! > > thank you, > > simon > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -- damian stewart . @damiannz . damian at frey.co.nz frey . contemporary art . http://www.frey.co.nz From ml at robmunro.net Fri Jun 11 10:01:01 2010 From: ml at robmunro.net (Robert Munro) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:01:01 +0100 Subject: [microsound] OpenLab OpenNight #6: Weds 16th June, 8pm-midnight: The Bethnal Green Working Men's Club Message-ID: Sorry for cross-posting, please forward everywhere. 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URL: From touch at klanggold.net Fri Jun 18 03:10:11 2010 From: touch at klanggold.net (Klanggold) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:10:11 +0200 Subject: [microsound] CD & Vinyl Production Message-ID: <7A949E9D-06F5-4507-9D76-5A6FC1D6BA9D@klanggold.net> Hi Guys. does anyone know a good and "cheap" cd & vinyl production service in europe ? thanks for your help ;) Andreas ____________________________________ KLANGGOLD label for experimental, avantgarde, improvised & electronic audioart c/o andreas usenbenz Eichenhang 73 89075 ulm | germany www.klanggold.net be a friend: www.myspace.com/klanggold www.twitter.com/klanggold www.lastfm.de/user/klanggold news: kg008/ Haruki - Snowed in Food Shelter (cd / dl) (file under: experimental, Avantgarde neo classical, ambient, soundscapes) still hot: kg007/ Morgan Craft - Morgan Kraft (digital) (file under: experimental, Avantgarde Jazz, Improvisation) kg006/ Nobile- Mariella (digital + special limited cd version) (file under: experimental, piano music, ambient, improvisation) kg005/ Viirus- The Virus Album (file under: experimental, Jazz, free jazz, soundscapes) kg004/ Jens D?ring & Ulrich Troyer- 20050429 (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg003/ 3Banditos- Sympathy For The Donkey (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) kg002/ Jair Rohm Parker Wells- AMDG (file under: experimental, noise, jazz) kg001/ Nobile- Pelktron (file under: experimental, ambient, noise, new music) forthcoming releases: kg009/ Miu - Fernmusik (cd | dl) kg010/ v/a - we like calm listeners (cd | dl) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norbert at x-tet.com Mon Jun 21 07:33:34 2010 From: norbert at x-tet.com (Norbert Herber) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:33:34 -0400 Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" Message-ID: <82ABD546-1DAC-46A1-9198-A88B3A38391C@x-tet.com> Hello microsounders, I'm looking for titles of pieces that are algorithmic, generative, procedural, etc. and also "listen." Has anyone made a piece that procedurally incorporates what has previously been played into what it is currently playing or about to play? Technically and conceptually I can think of many reasons this has already been done but I can't recall hearing (or hearing about) such a work. Thank you for your suggestions. ::Norbert From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Mon Jun 21 08:18:58 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:18:58 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" In-Reply-To: <82ABD546-1DAC-46A1-9198-A88B3A38391C@x-tet.com> References: <82ABD546-1DAC-46A1-9198-A88B3A38391C@x-tet.com> Message-ID: <3642A1AF-EB49-4319-8CF7-F4D6EB6D9460@sunrise.ch> hi norbert, last year i played a couple of concerts with an improvisational laptop setting that could sample its own output and use it as input again. you can listen to samples at www.myspace.com/tobiasreber (the rehearsal and ZKM ones) i'm not quite sure this is what you're looking for, though, as the audio output didn't drive directly any parameters itself. hope this helps, though! tobias Am 21.06.2010 um 13:33 schrieb Norbert Herber: > Hello microsounders, > > I'm looking for titles of pieces that are algorithmic, generative, > procedural, etc. and also "listen." Has anyone made a piece that > procedurally incorporates what has previously been played into what > it is currently playing or about to play? Technically and > conceptually I can think of many reasons this has already been done > but I can't recall hearing (or hearing about) such a work. > > Thank you for your suggestions. ::Norbert > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound --- Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.tobiasreber.com From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Mon Jun 21 09:05:18 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:05:18 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" In-Reply-To: <82ABD546-1DAC-46A1-9198-A88B3A38391C@x-tet.com> References: <82ABD546-1DAC-46A1-9198-A88B3A38391C@x-tet.com> Message-ID: <10F24833-E6CC-4F55-9986-1EAF7DE32A05@sunrise.ch> sorry, the correct myspace URL is www.myspace.com/stereorabbi Am 21.06.2010 um 13:33 schrieb Norbert Herber: > Hello microsounders, > > I'm looking for titles of pieces that are algorithmic, generative, > procedural, etc. and also "listen." Has anyone made a piece that > procedurally incorporates what has previously been played into what > it is currently playing or about to play? Technically and > conceptually I can think of many reasons this has already been done > but I can't recall hearing (or hearing about) such a work. > > Thank you for your suggestions. ::Norbert > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound --- Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.tobiasreber.com From lister at sonicescape.net Mon Jun 21 09:20:18 2010 From: lister at sonicescape.net (Jakob Riis) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:20:18 +0200 Subject: [microsound] CD & Vinyl Production In-Reply-To: <7A949E9D-06F5-4507-9D76-5A6FC1D6BA9D@klanggold.net> References: <7A949E9D-06F5-4507-9D76-5A6FC1D6BA9D@klanggold.net> Message-ID: <20100621132018.187558567@mail2.bahnhof.se> http://handlewithcare.de/ is good! /Jakob 18/06/10, kl. 9:10 +0200 , skrev Klanggold: >Hi Guys. does anyone know a good and "cheap" cd & vinyl production >service in europe ? >thanks for your help ;) > >Andreas >____________________________________ >KLANGGOLD >label for experimental, avantgarde, improvised & electronic audioart > >c/o andreas usenbenz >Eichenhang 73 >89075 ulm | germany > >www.klanggold.net > >be a friend: >www.myspace.com/klanggold >www.twitter.com/klanggold >www.lastfm.de/user/klanggold > >news: > >kg008/ Haruki - Snowed in Food Shelter (cd / dl) >(file under: experimental, Avantgarde neo classical, ambient, soundscapes) > > >still hot: > >kg007/ Morgan Craft - Morgan Kraft (digital) >(file under: experimental, Avantgarde Jazz, Improvisation) > >kg006/ Nobile- Mariella (digital + special limited cd version) >(file under: experimental, piano music, ambient, improvisation) > >kg005/ Viirus- The Virus Album >(file under: experimental, Jazz, free jazz, soundscapes) > >kg004/ Jens D?ring & Ulrich Troyer- 20050429 >(file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) > >kg003/ 3Banditos- Sympathy For The Donkey >(file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) > >kg002/ Jair Rohm Parker Wells- AMDG >(file under: experimental, noise, jazz) > >kg001/ Nobile- Pelktron >(file under: experimental, ambient, noise, new music) > > >forthcoming releases: > >kg009/ Miu - Fernmusik (cd | dl) >kg010/ v/a - we like calm listeners (cd | dl) > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >microsound mailing list >microsound at microsound.org >http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From contact at agxivatein.com Mon Jun 21 10:58:54 2010 From: contact at agxivatein.com (=?utf-8?B?Qc6TzqfOmc6SzpHOpM6VzpnOnQ==?=) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:58:54 +0300 Subject: [microsound] CD & Vinyl Production In-Reply-To: <20100621132018.187558567@mail2.bahnhof.se> References: <7A949E9D-06F5-4507-9D76-5A6FC1D6BA9D@klanggold.net> <20100621132018.187558567@mail2.bahnhof.se> Message-ID: <6FA72D5E-7A73-4A14-AD70-335B42BFE892@agxivatein.com> never had a personal experience, but I' ve heard only good words.. http://www.gzcd.cz m On 21 ???? 2010, at 4:20 ?.?., Jakob Riis wrote: > http://handlewithcare.de/ is good! > > /Jakob > > 18/06/10, kl. 9:10 +0200 , skrev Klanggold: > >> Hi Guys. does anyone know a good and "cheap" cd & vinyl production >> service in europe ? >> thanks for your help ;) >> >> Andreas >> ____________________________________ >> KLANGGOLD >> label for experimental, avantgarde, improvised & electronic audioart >> >> c/o andreas usenbenz >> Eichenhang 73 >> 89075 ulm | germany >> >> www.klanggold.net >> >> be a friend: >> www.myspace.com/klanggold >> www.twitter.com/klanggold >> www.lastfm.de/user/klanggold >> >> news: >> >> kg008/ Haruki - Snowed in Food Shelter (cd / dl) >> (file under: experimental, Avantgarde neo classical, ambient, soundscapes) >> >> >> still hot: >> >> kg007/ Morgan Craft - Morgan Kraft (digital) >> (file under: experimental, Avantgarde Jazz, Improvisation) >> >> kg006/ Nobile- Mariella (digital + special limited cd version) >> (file under: experimental, piano music, ambient, improvisation) >> >> kg005/ Viirus- The Virus Album >> (file under: experimental, Jazz, free jazz, soundscapes) >> >> kg004/ Jens D?ring & Ulrich Troyer- 20050429 >> (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) >> >> kg003/ 3Banditos- Sympathy For The Donkey >> (file under: experimental, noise, improvisation) >> >> kg002/ Jair Rohm Parker Wells- AMDG >> (file under: experimental, noise, jazz) >> >> kg001/ Nobile- Pelktron >> (file under: experimental, ambient, noise, new music) >> >> >> forthcoming releases: >> >> kg009/ Miu - Fernmusik (cd | dl) >> kg010/ v/a - we like calm listeners (cd | dl) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From kim at anechoicmedia.com Mon Jun 21 12:41:37 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:41:37 -0700 Subject: [microsound] ***my monthly reminder*** Message-ID: <4C1F9641.3050601@anechoicmedia.com> in case some color blind .microsounders missed the red type splattered on the microsound.org page: this list is *not* meant for announcing anything except new works you want to share with the community and/or get feedback on please please please read the frickin' statement in BOLD RED LETTERS on the same page you happened to sub from? it is all right there is painfully unsubtle text screaming at you in bold red: ***DO NOT POST ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE MAIN MICROSOUND LIST!!!*** there is another list for this which you can sub to and announce and cross-post to From mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es Mon Jun 21 15:48:48 2010 From: mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es (Jaime Munarriz Ortiz) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:48:48 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" Message-ID: <4C1FC220.8080209@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es> The book " Composing interactive music" by Winkler explores a MAX sytem for playing and interacting with the previous material, I think it fits. From randal_davis at operamail.com Mon Jun 21 17:09:52 2010 From: randal_davis at operamail.com (Randal Davis) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:09:52 +0100 Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" Message-ID: <20100621210952.D563F77B1E1@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com> Norbert - There are, perhaps, some problems with your terminology, but I think I know what you are working toward. The condition of a procedure "incorporat[ing] what has previously been played" would be met in a minimum condition by any system using delays. Rich history here, of course, from early Pauline Oliveros and Terry Riley, through Fripp & Eno, and so on. This is probably, though, not exactly what you mean. Note: "delay" here could refer as well to the effect or, even more generally, to various species of counterpoint. The condition of a procedure which "incorporates...what it is...about to play" would be met in a minimum condition by at least most common practice music, requiring only the assumption that the composer "knows" what has already happened. Or, put differently, a procedure that knows the future does not necessarily need to "listen." But I think this is not quite what you mean either. Some of the clearest examples of the interactive systems I think you are really most interested in are the network music of The League of Automatic Music Composers and The Hub, or, most recently, George Lewis' various experiments in this direction, notably Voyager. You might also want to alook into some of the works of Earle Brown and Christian Wolff (mostly their works of the 1950s), and the Scratch Music Orchestra, as well as John Zorn's "game pieces" for examples of complex interactive systems involving live performers, though not necessarily electronics. RD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Norbert Herber > To: microsound at or8.net > Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:33:34 -0400 > > > Hello microsounders, > > I'm looking for titles of pieces that are algorithmic, generative, > procedural, etc. and also "listen." Has anyone made a piece that > procedurally incorporates what has previously been played into what > it is currently playing or about to play? Technically and > conceptually I can think of many reasons this has already been > done but I can't recall hearing (or hearing about) such a work. > > Thank you for your suggestions. ::Norbert > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com From info at thesaddj.com Mon Jun 21 17:38:52 2010 From: info at thesaddj.com (Marco Donnarumma) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:38:52 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" In-Reply-To: <20100621210952.D563F77B1E1@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com> References: <20100621210952.D563F77B1E1@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com> Message-ID: Hi Norbert, I worked on this kind of process in a recently renewed participative concert. You can find information at http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/high-spheres/. Perhaps this work is slightly different from what you are looking for - and surely not mature as the work of the Scratch Music Orchestra - but you could find it interesting. Audience produce sounds using 6 unidirectional microphones, their sounds are thus composed together in rythmic patterns computed by generative algorhythm. At the same time audio data of the bespoken sounds feed and modulate five synths following again generative algorhythms. Eventually the whole composition is spatialized - always in real-time - through 6 loudspeakers forming a circle. When nobody interacts with the installation, the previously recorded/generated sounds keep on feeding the system. Unfortunately the recording you'll find on the above page are quite old, and it is the result of a different approach and different software. I'll be updating soon the webpage with the new audio and visual material I just had the chance to record at Re-New festival opening concert last May. Best, Marco On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Randal Davis wrote: > Norbert - > > There are, perhaps, some problems with your terminology, but I think I know > what you are working toward. > > The condition of a procedure "incorporat[ing] what has previously been > played" would be met in a minimum condition by any system using delays. > Rich history here, of course, from early Pauline Oliveros and Terry Riley, > through Fripp & Eno, and so on. This is probably, though, not exactly what > you mean. Note: "delay" here could refer as well to the effect or, even more > generally, to various species of counterpoint. > > The condition of a procedure which "incorporates...what it is...about to > play" would be met in a minimum condition by at least most common practice > music, requiring only the assumption that the composer "knows" what has > already happened. Or, put differently, a procedure that knows the future > does not necessarily need to "listen." But I think this is not quite what > you mean either. > > Some of the clearest examples of the interactive systems I think you are > really most interested in are the network music of The League of Automatic > Music Composers and The Hub, or, most recently, George Lewis' various > experiments in this direction, notably Voyager. > > You might also want to alook into some of the works of Earle Brown and > Christian Wolff (mostly their works of the 1950s), and the Scratch Music > Orchestra, as well as John Zorn's "game pieces" for examples of complex > interactive systems involving live performers, though not necessarily > electronics. > > RD > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Norbert Herber > > To: microsound at or8.net > > Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" > > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:33:34 -0400 > > > > > > Hello microsounders, > > > > I'm looking for titles of pieces that are algorithmic, generative, > > procedural, etc. and also "listen." Has anyone made a piece that > > procedurally incorporates what has previously been played into what > > it is currently playing or about to play? Technically and > > conceptually I can think of many reasons this has already been > > done but I can't recall hearing (or hearing about) such a work. > > > > Thank you for your suggestions. ::Norbert > > _______________________________________________ > > microsound mailing list > > microsound at microsound.org > > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From digiology at gmail.com Mon Jun 21 18:01:18 2010 From: digiology at gmail.com (Ross Rochford) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:01:18 +0100 Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" In-Reply-To: References: <20100621210952.D563F77B1E1@c-in3ws--03-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com> Message-ID: I haven't read this but judging by the title it may be of some relevance: http://web.media.mit.edu/~tristan/Research/MIT_PhD.html Ross On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: > Hi Norbert, > I worked on this kind of process in a recently renewed participative > concert. > You can find information at http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/high-spheres/ > . > > Perhaps this work is slightly different from what you are looking for - and > surely not mature as the work of the Scratch Music Orchestra - but you could > find it interesting. > > Audience produce sounds using 6 unidirectional microphones, their sounds > are thus composed together in rythmic patterns computed by generative > algorhythm. At the same time audio data of the bespoken sounds feed and > modulate five synths following again generative algorhythms. > Eventually the whole composition is spatialized - always in real-time - > through 6 loudspeakers forming a circle. > When nobody interacts with the installation, the previously > recorded/generated sounds keep on feeding the system. > > Unfortunately the recording you'll find on the above page are quite old, > and it is the result of a different approach and different software. > I'll be updating soon the webpage with the new audio and visual material I > just had the chance to record at Re-New festival opening concert last May. > > Best, > > > Marco > > > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Randal Davis > wrote: > >> Norbert - >> >> There are, perhaps, some problems with your terminology, but I think I >> know what you are working toward. >> >> The condition of a procedure "incorporat[ing] what has previously been >> played" would be met in a minimum condition by any system using delays. >> Rich history here, of course, from early Pauline Oliveros and Terry Riley, >> through Fripp & Eno, and so on. This is probably, though, not exactly what >> you mean. Note: "delay" here could refer as well to the effect or, even more >> generally, to various species of counterpoint. >> >> The condition of a procedure which "incorporates...what it is...about to >> play" would be met in a minimum condition by at least most common practice >> music, requiring only the assumption that the composer "knows" what has >> already happened. Or, put differently, a procedure that knows the future >> does not necessarily need to "listen." But I think this is not quite what >> you mean either. >> >> Some of the clearest examples of the interactive systems I think you are >> really most interested in are the network music of The League of Automatic >> Music Composers and The Hub, or, most recently, George Lewis' various >> experiments in this direction, notably Voyager. >> >> You might also want to alook into some of the works of Earle Brown and >> Christian Wolff (mostly their works of the 1950s), and the Scratch Music >> Orchestra, as well as John Zorn's "game pieces" for examples of complex >> interactive systems involving live performers, though not necessarily >> electronics. >> >> RD >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Norbert Herber >> > To: microsound at or8.net >> > Subject: [microsound] Pieces that play & "listen" >> > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:33:34 -0400 >> > >> > >> > Hello microsounders, >> > >> > I'm looking for titles of pieces that are algorithmic, generative, >> > procedural, etc. and also "listen." Has anyone made a piece that >> > procedurally incorporates what has previously been played into what >> > it is currently playing or about to play? Technically and >> > conceptually I can think of many reasons this has already been >> > done but I can't recall hearing (or hearing about) such a work. >> > >> > Thank you for your suggestions. ::Norbert >> > _______________________________________________ >> > microsound mailing list >> > microsound at microsound.org >> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: >> Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> > > > -- > Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD > Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK > > > PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com > LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | > http://www.flxer.net > EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pereshaped at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 06:05:43 2010 From: pereshaped at gmail.com (Pereshaped) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:05:43 +0100 Subject: [microsound] The sound of the Dog Particle and bad science. Message-ID: No doubt the recent to items of news has grasped some attention from the community, that is, " The sound of the God Particle" which is weird, as they haven;t found it yet...am I missing something ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_environment/10385675.stm and the more credible, the music of the sun spots etc at......which I can;t find right now. This sound more interesting. I contacted LHCsound to chat how they had done it. After a couple of email exchanges with them, I couldn't help feeling that it is a good example of sensationalizing science under the hood of "sonification" of scientific data. They were very cagey about sharing any scientific data on how they had done it, but on closer inspection... http://www.lhcsound.com/ It turns out it is mostly some pretty basic algorhythmic pops at some General MIDI instruments....yuk!. There is some aural references to early microsound, but the outcome strikes as very interpreted and subjective. It is ironic that music, especially microsound has been critized for it materialist associations(Sound Particles and Microsonic Materialism), yet here we have a nice reversal. Scientists and newsmakers tryiing to "palatize" and mystize sciene as nature's aesthetic. I would be interested to see how others saw the news. Maybe we could have a little short project again and show scientist how it could be done, "the sound of the Dog particle" :-) P From lsutton at libero.it Thu Jun 24 07:45:12 2010 From: lsutton at libero.it (Lorenzo) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:45:12 +0200 Subject: [microsound] The sound of the Dog Particle and bad science. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C234548.9070003@libero.it> hanks for the link and insight... Anyway lsitening to one of the examples, and reading "convert data expected from collisions at the LHC into sounds" it was pretty clear that one could really obtain "anything" depending on how/what you map the data to sound parameters. There is a big difference between "the sound of something" and "mapping data to sound" (aka sonification). Writing "converting data to sound" seems confusing and a little misleading because in my opinion it implies that the conversion direct (like converting Km to miles). Nothing against sonification of course, but I do agree with you that the way it's presented is too sensationalistic. And you couldn't have described better the news-makers' attitude, pity for the 'scientists'... Of course the sounds also sound very 'sci-fi' if you get what I mean, which helps to sell it even better. Lorenzo Pereshaped wrote: > No doubt the recent to items of news has grasped some attention from > the community, that is, " The sound of the God Particle" which is > weird, as they haven;t found it yet...am I missing something ? > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_environment/10385675.stm > > and the more credible, the music of the sun spots etc at......which I > can;t find right now. This sound more interesting. > > I contacted LHCsound to chat how they had done it. After a couple of > email exchanges with them, I couldn't help feeling that it is a good > example of sensationalizing science under the hood of "sonification" > of scientific data. They were very cagey about sharing any scientific > data on how they had done it, but on closer inspection... > > http://www.lhcsound.com/ > > It turns out it is mostly some pretty basic algorhythmic pops at some > General MIDI instruments....yuk!. There is some aural references to > early microsound, but the outcome strikes as very interpreted and > subjective. It is ironic that music, especially microsound has been > critized for it materialist associations(Sound Particles and > Microsonic Materialism), yet here we have a nice reversal. Scientists > and newsmakers tryiing to "palatize" and mystize sciene as nature's > aesthetic. > > I would be interested to see how others saw the news. > > Maybe we could have a little short project again and show scientist > how it could be done, "the sound of the Dog particle" :-) > > P > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > From ejschoster at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 09:43:46 2010 From: ejschoster at gmail.com (erik schoster) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:43:46 -0500 Subject: [microsound] [advice] Portable, battery powered speakers for outdoor microsound Message-ID: Hello microsounders, I'm planning a series of concerts in spaces that will not be able to provide amplification, some of which will take place outside and (hopefully!) nowhere near a power outlet. Can anyone recommend decent and hopefully cheap(ish) battery powered speakers for outdoor use? Frequency range/response is obviously a concern - I realize that cheap speakers aren't going to have amazing sound reproduction. [ I've been incredibly happy with my $100 (for the pair!) Alesis M1Active 320USB monitors as a cheapo solution when no PA is available for example though... ] Of particular interest: small, modular (I'm thinking of broadcasting some of my netbook output over low power FM and placing a few radios with small speakers around the space...) cheap, present. Your advice is appreciated - thanks! Best, Erik == projects == work: http://www.hecanjog.com | http://www.heythere.org community: http://www.luvsound.org label: http://wolf.luvsound.org band: http://www.cedarav.com == social media == voicemail: 347-410-6440 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eschoster twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hecanjog blog: http://blog.hecanjog.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rlainhart at otownmedia.com Thu Jun 24 12:05:34 2010 From: rlainhart at otownmedia.com (Richard Lainhart) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:05:34 -0400 Subject: [microsound] The sound of the Dog Particle and bad science. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <348513BD-7A48-4902-8A3C-EEBD0D5EAD30@otownmedia.com> Perhaps you're referring to this article? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7840201/Music-of-the-sun-recorded-by-scientists.html In this case, visual data is converted to sonic data, then sped up to bring it into the audio range. It isn't actually the "sound of the sun", but there is a direct correlation between the phenomenon and the sound at least. > and the more credible, the music of the sun spots etc at......which I > can;t find right now. This sound more interesting. Richard Lainhart http://www.otownmedia.com http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart http://www.vimeo.com/rlainhart http://www.youtube.com/rlainhart http://richardlainhart.bandcamp.com/ http://soundcloud.com/rlainhart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noisesmith at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 13:52:25 2010 From: noisesmith at gmail.com (Justin Glenn Smith) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:52:25 -0700 Subject: [microsound] [advice] Portable, battery powered speakers for outdoor microsound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C239B59.9000708@gmail.com> erik schoster wrote: > Hello microsounders, > > I'm planning a series of concerts in spaces that will not be able to provide > amplification, some of which will take place outside and (hopefully!) > nowhere near a power outlet. > > Can anyone recommend decent and hopefully cheap(ish) battery powered > speakers for outdoor use? Frequency range/response is obviously a concern - > I realize that cheap speakers aren't going to have amazing sound > reproduction. [ I've been incredibly happy with my $100 (for the pair!) > Alesis M1Active 320USB monitors as a cheapo solution when no PA is available > for example though... ] > > Of particular interest: small, modular (I'm thinking of broadcasting some of > my netbook output over low power FM and placing a few radios with small > speakers around the space...) cheap, present. > > Your advice is appreciated - thanks! I recently picked up a $240 Roland Cube Street for public synthesis experiments, to amplify my netbook. It is stereo in a single box, and quite directional (it is expected to be used by buskers with microphones). It runs on 6 AA batteries. The stereo line in can use none of the eq or amp modelling or digital effects built in, or even a volume knob (only the mono mic / instrument inputs use those), but the sound is very clear and mostly flat and I get long battery life. The Cube Street won't blow anyone away with booming bass or overpowering walls of noise, but is a decent way to amplify the sound I am digitally synthesizing with reasonable accuracy. From rlainhart at otownmedia.com Sat Jun 26 13:36:58 2010 From: rlainhart at otownmedia.com (Richard Lainhart) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:36:58 -0400 Subject: [microsound] The First Field Recording - June 29, 1888 Message-ID: June 29 will be the 122nd anniversary of the first known field recording, of a concert of Handel's "Israel In Egypt" at the Crystal Palace, London, England, sung by a choir of 4000 voices: http://www.webrarian.co.uk/crystalpalace/index.html and http://www.nps.gov/archive/edis/edisonia/very_early.htm Direct links audio files of the recordings: http://www.webrarian.co.uk/crystalpalace/cylinder01.mp3 http://www.webrarian.co.uk/crystalpalace/cylinder02.mp3 http://www.webrarian.co.uk/crystalpalace/cylinder03.mp3 http://www.nps.gov/archive/edis/edisonia/audio/EDIS-SRP-0154-17.mp3 Richard Lainhart http://www.otownmedia.com http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart http://www.vimeo.com/rlainhart http://www.youtube.com/rlainhart http://richardlainhart.bandcamp.com/ http://soundcloud.com/rlainhart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Tue Jun 29 02:42:44 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:42:44 +0200 Subject: [microsound] OT: Wyndel Hunt bicycle accident fund In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, this is slightly off-topic but very important nonetheless: Seattle experimental musician Wyndel Hunt is recovering from a severe bicycle accident on june 19. he has no health insurance and is in need of support to cover costs for his many medical treatments. full story here: http://dragonseyerecordings.cmail4.com/T/ViewEmail/y/A171109BF6AE3ADD/46C5C731C78068F99A8E73400EDACAB4 as well as a paypal link for donations. i was wondering if we might even come up with a collective way to support him? thanks tobias --- Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.tobiasreber.com