From spectro7 at iinet.net.au Fri Jul 2 07:31:41 2010 From: spectro7 at iinet.net.au (Stephen Adam) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:31:41 +1000 Subject: [microsound] [advice] Portable, battery powered speakers for outdoor microsound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F39A0B7-E593-4B42-8448-39EC75EB74FB@iinet.net.au> It does seem like your requirements are modest, but you haven't mentioned what kind of area you need to cover (at what levels), resources etc. In any case, as an "alternative" to portable battery powered speakers, a half-decent car stereo system can pump out a fair bit of sound provided the power and speaker cable runs aren't too long, and one well charged car battery (high capacity deep cycle is better) should provide more than enough power to run a modest (but better than just about any other off the shelf portable battery powered) speaker system over an evening. You'll also still probably need to provide alternative speakers (or enclosures) to the ones inside the car for the concert but that shouldn't be too hard to sort. If the car can't be in the area, you could just haul the relevant bits to the site: 12v (ie car type) batteriy powering (one, or more if needed) car stereos (cheaply obtained at a local wrecker or second hand dealer) could be a good solution, given you are planning to broadcast via low power FM anyway. Alternately or possibly as an adjunct if you can get a vehicle (or a decent capacity battery) in the vicinity get an inverter that generates enough power to run your Alesis speakers or more... S. On 24/06/2010, at 11:43 PM, erik schoster wrote: > Hello microsounders, > > I'm planning a series of concerts in spaces that will not be able to > provide amplification, some of which will take place outside and > (hopefully!) nowhere near a power outlet. > > Can anyone recommend decent and hopefully cheap(ish) battery powered > speakers for outdoor use? Frequency range/response is obviously a > concern - I realize that cheap speakers aren't going to have amazing > sound reproduction. [ I've been incredibly happy with my $100 (for > the pair!) Alesis M1Active 320USB monitors as a cheapo solution when > no PA is available for example though... ] > > Of particular interest: small, modular (I'm thinking of broadcasting > some of my netbook output over low power FM and placing a few radios > with small speakers around the space...) cheap, present. > > Your advice is appreciated - thanks! > > Best, > Erik > > == projects == > work: http://www.hecanjog.com | http://www.heythere.org > community: http://www.luvsound.org > label: http://wolf.luvsound.org > band: http://www.cedarav.com > > == social media == > voicemail: 347-410-6440 > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eschoster > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hecanjog > blog: http://blog.hecanjog.com > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejschoster at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 17:04:18 2010 From: ejschoster at gmail.com (erik schoster) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:04:18 -0500 Subject: [microsound] [advice] Portable, battery powered speakers for outdoor microsound In-Reply-To: <5F39A0B7-E593-4B42-8448-39EC75EB74FB@iinet.net.au> References: <5F39A0B7-E593-4B42-8448-39EC75EB74FB@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Thanks for the thoughts! I'll look into a small power generator - that never actually occurred to me, but could possibly be feasible. The spaces will be variable - as small as a bedroom to an open field, so I'm hoping to find a solution that will allow for some flexibility and then plan around my limitations. A friend used a number of small battery powered mono ipod speakers for an installation piece a year or so ago. I may go that route - he said with a gang of 15 or so of those placed around the space it was a pretty nice effect. Another option would be to just collect 10 or so small FM radios and do everything over low power FM. I'd love more thoughts - thanks! Erik == projects == work: http://www.hecanjog.com | http://www.heythere.org community: http://www.luvsound.org label: http://wolf.luvsound.org band: http://www.cedarav.com == social media == voicemail: 347-410-6440 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eschoster twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hecanjog blog: http://blog.hecanjog.com On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Stephen Adam wrote: > It does seem like your requirements are modest, but you haven't mentioned > what kind of area you need to cover (at what levels), resources etc. > > In any case, as an "alternative" to portable battery powered speakers, > a half-decent car stereo system can pump out a fair bit of sound provided > the power and speaker cable runs aren't too long, and one well charged car > battery (high capacity deep cycle is better) should provide more than enough > power to run a modest (but better than just about any other off the shelf > portable battery powered) speaker system over an evening. You'll also still > probably need to provide alternative speakers (or enclosures) to the ones > inside the car for the concert but that shouldn't be too hard to sort. If > the car can't be in the area, you could just haul the relevant bits to the > site: 12v (ie car type) batteriy powering (one, or more if needed) car > stereos (cheaply obtained at a local wrecker or second hand dealer) could be > a good solution, given you are planning to broadcast via low power FM > anyway. > > Alternately or possibly as an adjunct if you can get a vehicle (or a > decent capacity battery) in the vicinity get an inverter that generates > enough power to run your Alesis speakers or more... > > S. > > On 24/06/2010, at 11:43 PM, erik schoster wrote: > > Hello microsounders, > > I'm planning a series of concerts in spaces that will not be able to > provide amplification, some of which will take place outside and > (hopefully!) nowhere near a power outlet. > > Can anyone recommend decent and hopefully cheap(ish) battery powered > speakers for outdoor use? Frequency range/response is obviously a concern - > I realize that cheap speakers aren't going to have amazing sound > reproduction. [ I've been incredibly happy with my $100 (for the pair!) > Alesis M1Active 320USB monitors as a cheapo solution when no PA is available > for example though... ] > > Of particular interest: small, modular (I'm thinking of broadcasting some > of my netbook output over low power FM and placing a few radios with small > speakers around the space...) cheap, present. > > Your advice is appreciated - thanks! > > Best, > Erik > > == projects == > work: http://www.hecanjog.com | http://www.heythere.org > community: http://www.luvsound.org > label: http://wolf.luvsound.org > band: http://www.cedarav.com > > == social media == > voicemail: 347-410-6440 > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/eschoster > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/hecanjog > blog: http://blog.hecanjog.com > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hosted by the newly-founded Midwest Society for Acoustic Ecology and World Listening Project , this will be the first conference held by the American Society for Acoustic Ecology in Chicago, home to a thriving sonic arts community and center for world-class architecture, on the shore of largest group of freshwater lakes on Earth. An inspiring three days of discussion, workshops, concerts, and soundwalks are planned in an emerging field of study and activism that unites a broad range of social, scientific, and artistic concerns. Event Highlights * */Friday, July 9 - /*/'Citizen Sound'/ symposium (5-7PM) opens with a wine and cheese reception, introductions to each of the *ASAE* chapters, and presentations by leaders in Chicago's cultural and advocacy scene at *Columbia College*, 33 E. Congress Parkway, basement lobby and room # LL11. Featured guests include L*ou Mallozzi*, Executive Director of Experimental Sound Studio and architect *Graham Balkany* of the Gropius in Chicago Coalition . A media lounge, where guests can sample CDs and peruse publications by participants, performers and ASAE* *members, will be open all night. Attendees will how they may participate in the first World Listening Day (July 18, 2010). Following dinner at a local eatery, we'll be treated to a *concert* (8:30-10:30PM - $10) featuring ASAE member composers, performers and special guests. * */Saturday, July 10/* - Head "out of town" for an *afternoon soundwalk* (2-4PM) in Miller Woods, at the Indiana Dunes National Lakeshore . After the dunes soundwalk, it's back to the city for another group *dinner *(6:30-8:15) followed by a Chicago nightlife soundwalk (8:30-10PM). This day?s events should provide plenty of opportunities for informal conversation and networking among members. * */Sunday, July 11/** *- *ASAE* members lead a *workshop for children* (2-3PM) and families near Gallery 400 . ASAE members from New York, San Francisco, the Midwest, Southwest and beyond will present a concert in the *gallery*, 3:30-5:30PM at 400 S. Peoria Street (MC 034). This event will also be streamed live. The evening concludes with a *live* *radio performance* on Philip von Zweck?s ?Something Else? show at 10 PM-12AM on *WLUW 88.7FM* . --- MORE --- The ASAE - Listening for the Future During the course of the symposium, the *ASAE*'s governing body and leaders from all the regional chapters will be meeting to brainstorm for the future of the organization. Registration & Travel Registration for Listening to the Future is $50 ($35 for students and artists) and includes membership in the *ASAE*. All events, including both concerts, the /'Citizen Sound'/ symposium, the soundwalks and the workshop are free for* ASAE* members (current for 2010). Benefits of ASAE membership are provided on the ASAE website . A registration page will be posted shortly, along with locations of all venues, maps, schedules etc. All meals are pay-your-own, but we'll be making advance reservations so will ask you to register. Transportation between venues, including the Dunes soundwalk, will be via public transit. These costs are not covered by the* ASAE*, but we will plan to meet and travel as a group to the Dunes soundwalk. Hotels and travel resources, and any other additional information will be listed on the MSAE?s Listening for the Future web page: http://mwsae.org . Please bookmark and check back often, as we'll be making frequent updates. History The *Midwest Society for Acoustic Ecology* (MSAE), founded in 2009, is a chapter of the *American Society for Acoustic Ecolog*y (ASAE), the U.S. affiliate of the *World Forum for Acoustic Ecology * (WFAE), an international association of affiliated organizations and individuals, who share a common concern with the state of the world's soundscapes. Our members represent a multi-disciplinary spectrum of individuals engaged in the study of the social, cultural and ecological aspects of the sonic environment. *Learn more about the WFAE on its website: http://wfae.net* Listening for the Future Organizing Committee: Eric Leonardson, Chair Michelle Nagai Andrea Polli Assisted by: Jamie Davis Jesse Seay /Listening for the Future/ is organized by the American Society for Acoustic Ecology , and hosted by the Midwest Society for Acoustic Ecology and the World Listening Project . 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URL: From kim at anechoicmedia.com Fri Jul 2 19:21:51 2010 From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:21:51 -0700 Subject: [microsound] ***my monthly reminder*** Message-ID: <4C2E748F.2090003@anechoicmedia.com> in case some color blind .microsounders missed the red type splattered on the microsound.org page: this list is *not* meant for announcing anything except new works you want to share with the community and/or get feedback on please please please read the frickin' statement in BOLD RED LETTERS on the same page you happened to sub from? it is all right there is painfully unsubtle text screaming at you in bold red: ***DO NOT POST ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE MAIN MICROSOUND LIST!!!*** there is another list for this which you can sub to and announce and cross-post to From st.scholl at live.de Sun Jul 4 07:23:32 2010 From: st.scholl at live.de (steffen scholl) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 13:23:32 +0200 Subject: [microsound] high-level programming language? In-Reply-To: <5F39A0B7-E593-4B42-8448-39EC75EB74FB@iinet.net.au> References: , <5F39A0B7-E593-4B42-8448-39EC75EB74FB@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: hello, is max/pd a high-level programming language? and what is the difference between high- and low-level languages like C++? best, steffen. _________________________________________________________________ http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1007xHMTL4 K?nftig E-Mails ?ber Hotmail ohne Werbung versenden! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulo.mouat at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 07:31:23 2010 From: paulo.mouat at gmail.com (Paulo Mouat) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 07:31:23 -0400 Subject: [microsound] high-level programming language? In-Reply-To: References: <5F39A0B7-E593-4B42-8448-39EC75EB74FB@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_programming_language //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:23 AM, steffen scholl wrote: > > hello, > > is max/pd a high-level programming language? and what is the difference > between high- and low-level languages like C++? > > best, > steffen. > ________________________________ > > ________________________________ > K?nftig E-Mails ?ber Hotmail ohne Werbung versenden! > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > From list at isjtar.org Sun Jul 4 07:44:23 2010 From: list at isjtar.org (isjtar) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 13:44:23 +0200 Subject: [microsound] high-level programming language? In-Reply-To: References: , <5F39A0B7-E593-4B42-8448-39EC75EB74FB@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <5A0C402C-16D5-416B-AF0A-25F6BC028BA7@isjtar.org> the difference between a high livel and low level programming is how close you are to the hardware and how much abstraction is going on. on a scale from low to high, that woulde be for example: assembly - C - Java/Python/whatever max/pd are definitely high level, but especially they are a very particular kind of programming, sometimes referred to as dataflow programming. it's very effective for quick prototyping and a complete pain in the ass for other things. On Jul 4, 2010, at 1:23 PM, steffen scholl wrote: > > hello, > > is max/pd a high-level programming language? and what is the > difference between high- and low-level languages like C++? > > best, > steffen. > > > K?nftig E-Mails ?ber Hotmail ohne Werbung versenden! > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trond.lossius at bek.no Sun Jul 4 09:24:54 2010 From: trond.lossius at bek.no (Trond Lossius) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 15:24:54 +0200 Subject: [microsound] App for organizing recordings? Message-ID: Hi, do anyone have a recommendation for a good Mac application for organizing field recordings etc., something similar to Aperture, but for sound? Thanks, Trond From julien.rabin at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 10:39:49 2010 From: julien.rabin at gmail.com (Julien Rabin) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:39:49 +0200 Subject: [microsound] App for organizing recordings? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89903C55-506C-449A-99B1-734C0044A42D@gmail.com> Hi Trond, AudioFinder comes to mind. I tested it some time ago and as far as I remember it has features to tag, organize, browse, make smart folder, etc. Maybe worth giving a look. http://www.icedaudio.com/ Best, Julien Le 4 juil. 2010 ? 15:24, Trond Lossius a ?crit : > Hi, > > do anyone have a recommendation for a good Mac application for organizing field recordings etc., something similar to Aperture, but for sound? > > Thanks, > Trond > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From johnhudak at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 11:14:35 2010 From: johnhudak at gmail.com (John Hudak) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 11:14:35 -0400 Subject: [microsound] App for organizing recordings? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Trond, I use Soundgrinder for batch conversions, and have looked at their other product Library Monkey, but haven't found a need to purchase it yet: http://www.monkey-tools.com/ You might consider Snapper, from Audioease: http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Snapper/SnapperMain.html What I have found is that one of the main things you want to be able to do is to audition audiofiles quickly. Snapper allows this, as well as conversion and editing, all in the same interface. Even though I don't keep things well organized, if everything is in well-labelled folders, and the individual files can be auditioned quickly, then things go easier. With Snapper, you can see and hear an audiofile, as well as exporting selections on the fly. I believe they offer a time-limited demo. Let us know if you find anything else. I know there are itunes related organizers, but I haven't found them useful for my purposes. If I have a certain project I am starting, I find purchasing a portable pocket drive for that one project helpful in keeping things sorted out. It is nice pocket drives are so inexpensive these days. Best, John On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Trond Lossius wrote: > Hi, > > do anyone have a recommendation for a good Mac application for organizing > field recordings etc., something similar to Aperture, but for sound? > > Thanks, > Trond > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- http://www.johnhudak.net http://www.soundcloud.com/johnhudak http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From poetictech at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 12:26:58 2010 From: poetictech at gmail.com (Mark Henrickson) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 09:26:58 -0700 Subject: [microsound] App for organizing recordings? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <306BBF6D-615C-474E-AB11-E43FBBE6F2AF@gmail.com> i recommend sample manager. http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/samplemanager/ m. On Jul 4, 2010, at 8:14 AM, John Hudak wrote: > Hi Trond, > > I use Soundgrinder for batch conversions, and have looked at their other product Library Monkey, but haven't found a need to purchase it yet: > http://www.monkey-tools.com/ > > You might consider Snapper, from Audioease: http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Snapper/SnapperMain.html > What I have found is that one of the main things you want to be able to do is to audition audiofiles quickly. Snapper allows this, as well as conversion and editing, all in the same interface. Even though I don't keep things well organized, if everything is in well-labelled folders, and the individual files can be auditioned quickly, then things go easier. With Snapper, you can see and hear an audiofile, as well as exporting selections on the fly. I believe they offer a time-limited demo. > > Let us know if you find anything else. I know there are itunes related organizers, but I haven't found them useful for my purposes. If I have a certain project I am starting, I find purchasing a portable pocket drive for that one project helpful in keeping things sorted out. It is nice pocket drives are so inexpensive these days. > > Best, > John > > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Trond Lossius wrote: > Hi, > > do anyone have a recommendation for a good Mac application for organizing field recordings etc., something similar to Aperture, but for sound? > > Thanks, > Trond > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > -- > http://www.johnhudak.net > http://www.soundcloud.com/johnhudak > http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lauramello at gmx.at Wed Jul 14 06:59:04 2010 From: lauramello at gmx.at (Laura Mello) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:59:04 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Nature and Art Topic Message-ID: <20100714105904.160040@gmx.net> Hi list, someone asked some time ago about art focussing on natural process, here?s something... Best Laura Betreff: [rohrpost] Lecture: I. Reichle: When Life Becomes Art, KHM, 20.07., 19h pdf-version attached When Life Becomes Art: Molecular Biology and the Arts Evening Lecture by Dr. Ingeborg Reichle (Berlin-Brandenburg Academy of Sciences and Humanities) Tues. 20 July 2010 19:00 hrs. at the Academy of Media Arts Cologne (KHM), Aula, Filzengraben 2, 50676 K?ln By contrasting contemporary art with recent scientific developments, it is possible to demonstrate that art today not only serves to comment on science, but also represents a form of research and knowledge production in its own right, though one belonging to a radically different epistemological tradition. Moving beyond the postulated dichotomy of the ?objective? sciences and the ?subjective? arts, contemporary art shows us that art is no longer limited to the production of beautiful artefacts, but has established its role as a legitimate form of knowledge production in its own right. Today the engagement of art with science ranges from artists? iconological handling of scientific imaging to research projects executed as artistic endeavours by artists working in the laboratory. In the last two decades we have seen a number of artists leave the traditional artistic playground to work instead in scientific contexts such as the laboratories of molecular biologists. Such artistic interventions in genetics and biological forms have made possible new means of artistic expression and art forms, like ?Transgenic Art? and ?Bio-Art?. These new art forms differ dramatically from more traditional artistic approaches that explore the natural and additionally have developed new methodologies. More radically these new art forms have crossed the boundaries between the artificial and the natural, provoking a different understanding of ?nature?. Dr. Ingeborg Reichle is an art historian and theorist at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy of Sciences and Humanities, Germany. From 1998 till 2005 she was active at the Humboldt-University in Berlin. She has done interdisciplinary studies in London and Hamburg and holds an MA in Art History from the University of Hamburg and a PhD at the Art History Department at the Humboldt-University in Berlin. Her doctoral dissertation, dealing with Art and Biotechnology in the Age of Technoscience, was published (Springer 2005, in German) 2009 at Springer in English: ?Art in the Age of Technoscience. Genetic Engineering, Robotics, and Artificial Life in Contemporary Art.? From 1998 to 2003, she lectured on gender studies and new media art at the Art History Department at the Humboldt-University and was involved in the practical application of electronics in the deployment of computers and new media in art historical works like PROMETHEUS and she was developing relevant internet resources. Since 2005 she is active as project leader of the interdisciplinary research group ?Bildkulturen? at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy of Sciences and Humanities in Berlin and lectures at the Hermann von Helmholtz-Zentrum f?r Kulturtechnik at the Humboldt-University in Berlin. The evening lecture is part of the International Summer School 2010 ?Living Matter. Art & Research & Science Studies in Biological Laboratories? (KHM Cologne in cooperation with FU Berlin, www.fu-berlin.de/embodiedinformation) and funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF) Kathrin Friedrich Kunsthochschule f?r Medien K?ln Peter-Welter-Platz 2 D-50676 K?ln Tel.: 0221/20189-313 kfriedrich at khm.de www.khm.de -- www.lauramello.org From gtaylor at rtqe.net Wed Jul 14 08:02:50 2010 From: gtaylor at rtqe.net (Gregory Taylor) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:02:50 +0200 Subject: [microsound] microsound Digest, Vol 19, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C3DA76A.1060903@rtqe.net> Have you looked at Audioease's Snapper? Nice long testperiod download, too.... microsound-request at or8.net wrote: > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 15:24:54 +0200 > From: Trond Lossius > To: microsound at microsound.org > Subject: [microsound] App for organizing recordings? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi, > > do anyone have a recommendation for a good Mac application for organizing field recordings etc., something similar to Aperture, but for sound? From js0000 at gmail.com Wed Jul 14 09:21:15 2010 From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:21:15 -0400 Subject: [microsound] cleveland rocks Message-ID: hola i'm goin to cleveland this weekend and just wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions of what to check out [btw, avoiding the rock hall]. continue aesthetic activity ... -- \js : "verbing weirds language." -calvin From trond.lossius at bek.no Wed Jul 14 13:32:23 2010 From: trond.lossius at bek.no (Trond Lossius) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:32:23 +0200 Subject: [microsound] App for organizing recordings? In-Reply-To: <4C3DA76A.1060903@rtqe.net> References: <4C3DA76A.1060903@rtqe.net> Message-ID: <0A3752AF-FF68-4ED7-9AC4-C72176AA1103@bek.no> Yes, that one is easy to get addicted to. I have downloaded most or all of the suggested apps, and are checking them out. Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! Best, Trond On Jul 14, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Gregory Taylor wrote: > Have you looked at Audioease's Snapper? Nice long testperiod download, > too.... > >> Hi, >> >> do anyone have a recommendation for a good Mac application for organizing field recordings etc., something similar to Aperture, but for sound? From y.riad at live.nl Thu Jul 15 08:16:58 2010 From: y.riad at live.nl (Younes Riad) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:16:58 +0200 Subject: [microsound] berlin In-Reply-To: <4C3DA76A.1060903@rtqe.net> References: , <4C3DA76A.1060903@rtqe.net> Message-ID: hi, i'm in berlin until tuesday next week. i was wondering if anybody had some tips on music and art? thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Download nu eenvoudig leuke Emoticons voor je Messenger GRATIS http://www.rulive.nl/aspx/emoticons.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From macdara at email.com Thu Jul 15 08:58:26 2010 From: macdara at email.com (macdara at email.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:58:26 -0400 Subject: [microsound] berlin In-Reply-To: References: , <4C3DA76A.1060903@rtqe.net> Message-ID: <8CCF2348C65BDB6-1D88-12DC6@web-mmc-m01.sysops.aol.com> Been a while since I was there but Zitty and Tipp list a lot of stuff going on in there. Visit the Philharmonie, it doesn't matter what's being played (kind of) it's a wonderful experience in itself -----Original Message----- From: Younes Riad To: microsound at microsound.org Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2010 1:16 pm Subject: [microsound] berlin hi, i'm in berlin until tuesday next week. i was wondering if anybody had some tips on music and art? thanks. SMS "HOTMAIL" naar 3010 en ontvang gratis de juiste instellingen voor Hotmail op je mobiele telefoon. = _______________________________________________ icrosound mailing list icrosound at microsound.org ttp://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Thu Jul 15 09:04:10 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:04:10 +0200 Subject: [microsound] berlin In-Reply-To: <8CCF2348C65BDB6-1D88-12DC6@web-mmc-m01.sysops.aol.com> References: <4C3DA76A.1060903@rtqe.net> <8CCF2348C65BDB6-1D88-12DC6@web-mmc-m01.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: try the "echtzeit" email newsletter, they list a lot of good concerts and exhibitions. 2010/7/15 > Been a while since I was there but Zitty and Tipp list a lot of stuff going > on in there. Visit the Philharmonie, it doesn't matter what's being played > (kind of) it's a wonderful experience in itself > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Younes Riad > To: microsound at microsound.org > Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2010 1:16 pm > Subject: [microsound] berlin > > hi, > > i'm in berlin until tuesday next week. i was wondering if anybody had some > tips on music and art? > > thanks. > > ------------------------------ > SMS "HOTMAIL" naar 3010 en ontvang gratis de juiste instellingen voor Hotmail > op je mobiele telefoon.= > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing listmicrosound at microsound.orghttp://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jonas at donebyme.com Thu Jul 15 09:42:22 2010 From: jonas at donebyme.com (Jonas Enqvist) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:42:22 +0200 Subject: [microsound] berlin In-Reply-To: References: , <4C3DA76A.1060903@rtqe.net> Message-ID: I would say Tip an Zitty aswell... and take a look here... http://www.nkprojekt.de/ http://www.galeriemazzoli.com/ http://www.daadgalerie.de/en/index_en.php http://www.killekill.com/ / J 15 jul 2010 kl. 14.16 skrev Younes Riad: > hi, > > i'm in berlin until tuesday next week. i was wondering if anybody > had some tips on music and art? > > thanks. > > SMS "HOTMAIL" naar 3010 en ontvang gratis de juiste instellingen > voor Hotmail op je mobiele telefoon. > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From onesubliminal at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 12:33:46 2010 From: onesubliminal at gmail.com (One Subliminal) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:33:46 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Berlin Message-ID: There's also the echtzeitmusik website: http://echtzeitmusik.de/index.php Might be a little more convenient than the email list. I was there in April; there are gigs that are announced at the last minute, or just not listed on the site. But for a short trip, the website should keep you pretty busy with the smaller gigs. Bill From lauramello at gmx.at Thu Jul 15 14:04:08 2010 From: lauramello at gmx.at (Laura Mello) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:04:08 +0200 Subject: [microsound] Berlin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100715180408.124880@gmx.net> www.echtzeitmusik.de and this, very local, but it?s the "in" neighbourhood, if everything sucks you can at least hang around anyway: http://www.neukoelln-update.de/event Best from Neuk?lln Laura -- "The three main intellectual ages of man are: 0 - 5 years age of WHY 5 - 10 years age of WHY NOT 10 - 75 years age of BECAUSE" DEBONO, Edward, The dog exercising machine, A study of children as inventors, Harmondsworth [u.a.] : Penguin Books, 1971. - 125 S. . - 0-14-080616-4. - (Penguin education) From jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net Thu Jul 15 20:13:39 2010 From: jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net (John Hopkins) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:13:39 -0700 Subject: [microsound] Berlin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C3FA433.3@tech-no-mad.net> maybe something's going on @ staalplaat http://staalplaat.wordpress.com/ jh From sofus at foppa.dk Thu Jul 15 20:22:38 2010 From: sofus at foppa.dk (Sofus Forsberg) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:22:38 +0200 Subject: [microsound] berlin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Saturday there?s a in-store performance in Dense, which is Berlin?s finest recordshop. http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=136652329688862&ref=mf You can maybe talk to people there to find some interesting stuff :D Have fun, Berlin is a great city. And yea Neuk?lln is by far the most hapening part of the city Sofus From: Younes Riad Reply-To: Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:16:58 +0200 To: Subject: [microsound] berlin hi, i'm in berlin until tuesday next week. i was wondering if anybody had some tips on music and art? thanks. SMS "HOTMAIL" naar 3010 en ontvang gratis de juiste instellingen voor Hotmail op je mobiele telefoon. _______________________________________________ microsound mailing list microsound at microsound.org http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Fri Jul 16 01:19:47 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:19:47 +0200 Subject: [microsound] berlin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C1DA04B-14D9-46CA-9BA3-6D4915481A6B@sunrise.ch> by the way, in Neuk?lln there's also "ohrenhoch - der ger?uschladen" - a place for sound workshops for children. it's open each sunday, and they have a loudspeaker array for which they commission works which then play in a loop all sunday. nice people, too. http://www.ohrenhoch.org/ tobias Am 16.07.2010 um 02:22 schrieb Sofus Forsberg: > On Saturday there?s a in-store performance in Dense, which is > Berlin?s finest recordshop. > http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=136652329688862&ref=mf > You can maybe talk to people there to find some interesting stuff :D > Have fun, Berlin is a great city. And yea Neuk?lln is by far the > most hapening part of the city > Sofus > > > From: Younes Riad > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:16:58 +0200 > To: > Subject: [microsound] berlin > > hi, > > i'm in berlin until tuesday next week. i was wondering if anybody > had some tips on music and art? > > thanks. > > SMS "HOTMAIL" naar 3010 en ontvang gratis de juiste instellingen > voor Hotmail op je mobiele telefoon. > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound --- Tobias Reber Freiburgstrasse 32 2503 Biel Switzerland mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69 email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch www.tobiasreber.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch Tue Jul 20 03:34:45 2010 From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:34:45 +0200 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology Message-ID: dear all, i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned about what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an ecological context, meaning: - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, Greenpeace etc - sound art as pedagogy - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to works using digital technologies - field recording - noise pollution - acoustic ecology - etc i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much examples as i can get. any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! tobias -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lsutton at libero.it Tue Jul 20 04:00:14 2010 From: lsutton at libero.it (Lorenzo) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:00:14 +0200 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C45578E.1080003@libero.it> Hi Tobias, For audio samples it might be worth checking out freesound.org Lorenzo Tobias Reber wrote: > dear all, > > i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned about > what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an ecological > context, meaning: > > - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, Greenpeace etc > - sound art as pedagogy > - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to works > using digital technologies > - field recording > - noise pollution > - acoustic ecology > - etc > > i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much examples > as i can get. > > any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! > > tobias > > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From palace at guero.sr.unh.edu Tue Jul 20 12:22:31 2010 From: palace at guero.sr.unh.edu (Michael Palace) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:22:31 -0400 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: <4C45578E.1080003@libero.it> References: <4C45578E.1080003@libero.it> Message-ID: <4C45CD47.7090705@guero.sr.unh.edu> Can I suggest wandering ear? It has lots of field recordings and I have one up there from sounds I recorded in Amazonia. http://www.wanderingear.com/ I have a ton of field recordings collected during work in Brazil for ecological research. Also my music, under the name horchata, has always had an ecological bent. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Horchata Here is a short interview about one of my albums in which I discuss the ecological nature of some of the sound design and composition. "Acytota" involves the use of many different snippets of sounds from field recordings, synthesizer programs, computer code and effect patches that I have made over the past few years. I viewed these as building blocks in development of a sound or idea of a song and only began to place them in a compositional context for the completion of this album. The idea of the album title and song titles can be viewed as how I viewed these elements of the song and sounds, i.e. they are pre-life aspects of sound and I approached the final versions of these songs a little differently than other Horchata releases. Two of the field recordings are unaltered, but present transparent views of the world where and when I made those sounds. The last song uses every one of my Horchata songs I could find. It is a series of samples scanned over on a macrolevel and sound and frequency is made through spinning past each of the songs and jumping around between them. Though I like ambient, glitchcore music and academic electroacoustic music, I rarely find them together in one song or on a release. I find the glitchcore relies too much on rhythm, which I admire, but lack personally, academic music needs to be digested and read about, and ambient often is redundant and does not incorporate enough experimental aspects. I attempted in this recording to meld these styles. Some songs have all three elements, some have only one, and though they may seem very different they, speak the same dialect which is sound as a small living organism, an entity of frequency that relies not only on itself, but flourishes in a small microcosm of other sounds, dependant and parasitic on large organisms. Lorenzo wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > For audio samples it might be worth checking out freesound.org > > Lorenzo > > Tobias Reber wrote: >> dear all, >> >> i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned about >> what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an ecological >> context, meaning: >> >> - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, Greenpeace etc >> - sound art as pedagogy >> - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to works >> using digital technologies >> - field recording >> - noise pollution >> - acoustic ecology >> - etc >> >> i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much examples >> as i can get. >> >> any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! >> >> tobias >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From palace at guero.sr.unh.edu Tue Jul 20 12:23:19 2010 From: palace at guero.sr.unh.edu (Michael Palace) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:23:19 -0400 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C45CD77.3070504@guero.sr.unh.edu> Also a collaborator and I are seeking funding for this unique idea. Sound recordings of bubble in bogs. Briefly, we are developing a unique approach to identifying the ebullitive events that occur in both flooded ecosystems and lakes. Ebuillition or bubbling represents one of the pathways for methane to be released from aquatic environments, bypassing the mitigating effects of oxidation. The extent of bubbling both in the frequency and magnitude of events is still not well characterized in both northern and tropical ecosystems. In recent research here at my field site in NH, we have observed ebullition events with an autochamber system equipped with a laser CH4 analyzer. We have observed distinct diel patterns in ebullition and also more frequent events than is reported in the literature. These results have many implications but the most important for climate feedbacks is that we are underestimating the flux of methane from these ecosystems by as much as 40%. Since coupled autochamber and laser systems are not easily deployed in remote locations, we have been thinking about a more portable, less-expensive sensing system. We have been testing the use of sound to identify ebullitive events. Simply attaching a submersible microphone to a plate that will resonate when the bubble impacts its surface gives us enough signal to identify the frequency of events and has the potential to give us the size of the bubbles, a mechanism to sample them for chemical analysis and therefore a way to estimate the mass of CH4 that is released through this transport process. Deploying these systems in a variety of wetlands and aquatic systems would then give us the data to determine patterns in and controls in emission and then allow us to incorporate the behavior into process-based models of greenhouse gas emissions. Mike Palace Tobias Reber wrote: > dear all, > > i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned > about what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in > an ecological context, meaning: > > - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, > Greenpeace etc > - sound art as pedagogy > - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to > works using digital technologies > - field recording > - noise pollution > - acoustic ecology > - etc > > i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much > examples as i can get. > > any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! > > tobias > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > From jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net Tue Jul 20 12:53:00 2010 From: jhopkins at tech-no-mad.net (John Hopkins) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:53:00 -0700 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C45D46C.3040203@tech-no-mad.net> Heo Tobias aporee maps -- an open acoustic mapping project http://aporee.org/maps/ almost 8000 sounds distributed globally -- anyone can contribute! It's an excellent example of relating sounds to location (and open collaboration, social media, etc). Look around and click on the red pulsing dots for the sounds to play... cheers, John ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John Hopkins, Researcher University of Technology Sydney Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences Centre for Media Arts Innovation http://neoscenes.net/ http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ http://www.neoscenes.net/travelog/weblog.php chazhop at gmail.com jhopkins at neoscenes.net skype: chazhopkins ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From alex.ookpik at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 13:40:51 2010 From: alex.ookpik at gmail.com (alex olsen) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:40:51 -0400 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: <4C45D46C.3040203@tech-no-mad.net> References: <4C45D46C.3040203@tech-no-mad.net> Message-ID: Hello, Highly recommended... *Montreal Sound Map: * http://cessa.music.concordia.ca/soundmap/en/ Best, Alex On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:53 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > Heo Tobias > > aporee maps -- an open acoustic mapping project > > http://aporee.org/maps/ > > almost 8000 sounds distributed globally -- anyone can contribute! It's an > excellent example of relating sounds to location (and open collaboration, > social media, etc). Look around and click on the red pulsing dots for the > sounds to play... > > cheers, > John > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > John Hopkins, Researcher > University of Technology Sydney > Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences > Centre for Media Arts Innovation > http://neoscenes.net/ > http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ > http://www.neoscenes.net/travelog/weblog.php > chazhop at gmail.com > jhopkins at neoscenes.net > skype: chazhopkins > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -- + + + + + -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From guy.birkin at ntu.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 18:08:40 2010 From: guy.birkin at ntu.ac.uk (Birkin, Guy ) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:08:40 +0100 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology References: Message-ID: <9E4ADEEF579F1D43A9E5A492B0074ACE05D08D@hawthorn.ads.ntu.ac.uk> Hello Tobias, This little project may be of interest. It's related to Ear to the Earth, an enviromental sound art network: http://listentotheweather.com/ >From the site: "Listen to the Weather is a web-based sound project produced for New York environmental sound festival Ear to the Earth by Australian sound artist Kate Carr. Armed with daily weather statistics from the area they live in and their favourite song about water, each participating artist has produced an aural portrait of their city's weather for a day. By mapping data as well as referencing existing musicial works this project aims to explore how water has contributed to our understanding of being human and suggest that these understandings will shift as our climate changes." I will be contributing a microsound track to this project soon. I'm collecting the weather data right now, with a datalogger + temperature and light probes on my windowsill! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Tobias Reber [mailto:tobiasreber at sunrise.ch] Sent: Tue 7/20/2010 08:34 To: microsound at microsound.org Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology dear all, i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned about what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an ecological context, meaning: - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, Greenpeace etc - sound art as pedagogy - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to works using digital technologies - field recording - noise pollution - acoustic ecology - etc i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much examples as i can get. any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! tobias This email is intended solely for the addressee. It may contain private and confidential information. If you are not the intended addressee, please take no action based on it nor show a copy to anyone. 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Thanks, David From scott at artificia.org Tue Jul 20 20:30:15 2010 From: scott at artificia.org (Scott Carver) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:30:15 -0700 Subject: [microsound] High channel playback configs In-Reply-To: <766F846E-B325-457D-8C37-F93E09FA821E@gmail.com> References: <766F846E-B325-457D-8C37-F93E09FA821E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6A96DC4F-43A4-435B-A874-CE7E9F7E3182@artificia.org> I worked on a 40 channel installation last year - we ran it from two synced laptops, with a pair of MOTU ultralite's each (MOTU hardware chains easily via firewire). It worked very well, with a few caveats: (a) time sync was not too accurate and (b) on the mac laptops, getting all the outputs ordered and set up correctly usually took about 15-20 (somewhat nerve-wracking) minutes. But, if you're only setting up once, this is a non-issue. We used ultralite's because we already had some, they were reliable and easy to configure, and frankly we were buying them with grant money and wanted something versatile we could use for other projects. We considered some other custom solutions, but the other parts of the system ended up being so complex and finicky that having a super-reliable hardware setup was a lifesaver (when no sound comes out of a speaker, the fewer things you have to check to fix it the better). There's probably no reason you couldn't run two chains of two MOTU's off a single computer, giving you 48 outputs pretty easily. This was all very interactive sound, being generated live - if you're just playing things back, more modular setups (PIC's, mp3 players, etc) would obviously be better. Hope that helps. Scott On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:10 PM, David Kim-Boyle wrote: > Hi all, > > I am working on a sound installation that requires over 40 independent audio playback channels, each of which is routed to a dedicated loudspeaker. Does anyone have any suggestions for hardware configurations for such a setup? The audio needs to be synchronized but doesn't need to be of particularly high resolution. I'm considering building some PIC wav players for the job but wonder if anyone with relevant experience might know of feasible hardware alternatives. > > Thanks, > > David_______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We used ultralite's because we already had some, they were reliable and easy to configure, and frankly we were buying them with grant money and wanted something versatile we could use for other projects. We considered some other custom solutions, but the other parts of the system ended up being so complex and finicky that having a super-reliable hardware setup was a lifesaver (when no sound comes out of a speaker, the fewer things you have to check to fix it the better). There's probably no reason you couldn't run two chains of two MOTU's off a single computer, giving you 48 outputs pretty easily. This was all very interactive sound, being generated live - if you're just playing things back, more modular setups (PIC's, mp3 players, etc) would obviously be better. Hope that helps. Scott On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:10 PM, David Kim-Boyle wrote: > Hi all, > > I am working on a sound installation that requires over 40 independent audio playback channels, each of which is routed to a dedicated loudspeaker. Does anyone have any suggestions for hardware configurations for such a setup? The audio needs to be synchronized but doesn't need to be of particularly high resolution. I'm considering building some PIC wav players for the job but wonder if anyone with relevant experience might know of feasible hardware alternatives. > > Thanks, > > David_______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From list at isjtar.org Wed Jul 21 07:33:55 2010 From: list at isjtar.org (isjtar) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:33:55 +0200 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: References: <4C45578E.1080003@libero.it> Message-ID: <89FFA0AF-7E40-4F23-9881-FA4FBEA7A09A@isjtar.org> we've been working on ecology in media arts and music at okno http://okno.be and just started a new project around time and ecology: http://timeinventorskabinet.org On Jul 21, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Tobias Reber wrote: > thank you all for the many useful responses on- and off-list! > > please keep them coming, I don't mind mail with a promotional touch > as long as it's sent to my private adress. > > tobias > > > 2010/7/20 Lorenzo > Hi Tobias, > > For audio samples it might be worth checking out freesound.org > > Lorenzo > > Tobias Reber wrote: >> >> dear all, >> >> i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they >> learned about >> what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an >> ecological >> context, meaning: >> >> - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, >> Greenpeace etc >> - sound art as pedagogy >> - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp >> to works >> using digital technologies >> - field recording >> - noise pollution >> - acoustic ecology >> - etc >> >> i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much >> examples >> as i can get. >> >> any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! >> >> tobias >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nathalie.fougeras at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 10:13:48 2010 From: nathalie.fougeras at gmail.com (nathalie fougeras) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:13:48 +0200 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: <89FFA0AF-7E40-4F23-9881-FA4FBEA7A09A@isjtar.org> References: <4C45578E.1080003@libero.it> <89FFA0AF-7E40-4F23-9881-FA4FBEA7A09A@isjtar.org> Message-ID: Hi! I was working with some noise sounds and with several criitic points about nuclear and other pollution in our environment. You can visit at this link this project (permanent exhibition in the Ecologia Island) and test it yourself in this virtual environment the sound installation imyou_uoymi here: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ecologia%20Island/122/129/51 Let me know if you have some questions. Best/ Nathalie -- Ecologia Island "IMYOU-UOYMI0.1 is a project raising the question about our environment and a kind of instable and fragile interaction between us and it." The IMYOU-UOYMI 0.1 works as a 3D sculpture, an architecture and an active body avatar presence played by a downloadable HUD (visual interface). IMYOU-UOYMI 0.1 brings the possibility to 6 associative visits of I M YOU IMYOU-UOYMI 0.1 are supported by AIRE Ecologia Island and will be shown in the virtual art collection of AIRE project. Nathalie Fougeras http://nathaliefougeras.org ------------------- 2010/7/21 isjtar > we've been working on ecology in media arts and music at okno > http://okno.be > and just started a new project around time and ecology: > http://timeinventorskabinet.org > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Tobias Reber wrote: > > thank you all for the many useful responses on- and off-list! > > please keep them coming, I don't mind mail with a promotional touch as long > as it's sent to my private adress. > > tobias > > > 2010/7/20 Lorenzo > >> Hi Tobias, >> >> For audio samples it might be worth checking out freesound.org >> >> Lorenzo >> >> Tobias Reber wrote: >> >> dear all, >> >> i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned about >> what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an ecological >> context, meaning: >> >> - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, Greenpeace etc >> - sound art as pedagogy >> - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to works >> using digital technologies >> - field recording >> - noise pollution >> - acoustic ecology >> - etc >> >> i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much examples >> as i can get. >> >> any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! >> >> tobias >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing listmicrosound at microsound.orghttp://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> microsound mailing list >> microsound at microsound.org >> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound >> >> > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dkimboyle at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 19:22:52 2010 From: dkimboyle at gmail.com (David Kim-Boyle) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:22:52 +1000 Subject: [microsound] High channel playback configs (Scott Carver) Message-ID: Thanks Scott. Yes, I'd thought about cascading a series of MOTU ultralites but can't justify the purchase. Given the work is not interactive, I'm leaning towards PIC wave players. Does anyone know a good resource where I can get up to speed with PICs? Thanks, David From ollie at icarus.nu Thu Jul 22 01:20:35 2010 From: ollie at icarus.nu (Oliver Bown) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:20:35 +1000 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: <9E4ADEEF579F1D43A9E5A492B0074ACE05D08D@hawthorn.ads.ntu.ac.uk> References: <9E4ADEEF579F1D43A9E5A492B0074ACE05D08D@hawthorn.ads.ntu.ac.uk> Message-ID: At the more conceptual digital end, you might be interested in the work of the Centre for Electronic Media Art and related projects looking at biologically inspired approaches to generative processes. A good review of this area is Alan Dorin's 2006, "The Sonic Artificial Ecosystem", here http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~aland/papers.html On 21/07/2010, at 8:08 AM, Birkin, Guy wrote: > > Hello Tobias, > > This little project may be of interest. It's related to Ear to the Earth, an enviromental sound art network: > http://listentotheweather.com/ > >> From the site: > "Listen to the Weather is a web-based sound project produced for New York environmental sound festival Ear to the Earth by Australian sound artist Kate Carr. > > Armed with daily weather statistics from the area they live in and their favourite song about water, each participating artist has produced an aural portrait of their city's weather for a day. > > By mapping data as well as referencing existing musicial works this project aims to explore how water has contributed to our understanding of being human and suggest that these understandings will shift as our climate changes." > > I will be contributing a microsound track to this project soon. I'm collecting the weather data right now, with a datalogger + temperature and light probes on my windowsill! > > Guy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tobias Reber [mailto:tobiasreber at sunrise.ch] > Sent: Tue 7/20/2010 08:34 > To: microsound at microsound.org > Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology > > dear all, > > i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned about > what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an ecological > context, meaning: > > - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, Greenpeace etc > - sound art as pedagogy > - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to works > using digital technologies > - field recording > - noise pollution > - acoustic ecology > - etc > > i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much examples > as i can get. > > any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! > > tobias > > > > This email is intended solely for the addressee. 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URL: From hcengar at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 15:45:15 2010 From: hcengar at gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:45:15 -0400 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83EFAF7A-D93C-4060-BB2F-26DB7FED4C55@gmail.com> Hi Tobias, You might very likely already know this but you should check the work by Hildegard Westerkamp http://www.sfu.ca/~westerka/ and of course the work done by the sound ecology movement initiators like Murray Shafer, Barry Truax, etc. Cheers, Hector --- sonic.hcenteno.net www.hcenteno.net On 2010-07-20, at 3:34 AM, Tobias Reber wrote: > dear all, > > i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned about what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an ecological context, meaning: > > - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, Greenpeace etc > - sound art as pedagogy > - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to works using digital technologies > - field recording > - noise pollution > - acoustic ecology > - etc > > i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much examples as i can get. > > any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! > > tobias > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound From jlarsson.lists at brzmk.se Mon Jul 26 11:01:04 2010 From: jlarsson.lists at brzmk.se (Jan Larsson) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:01:04 +0200 Subject: [microsound] sound and ecology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27EA5897-F917-4370-B4D1-F65441D7F232@brzmk.se> World Forum for Acoustic Ecology: wfae.net Their journal is a more active site: http://interact.uoregon.edu/MediaLit/WFAE/home/newsletter/index.htm 20 jul 2010 kl. 09.34 skrev Tobias Reber: > dear all, > > i'm currently working for a local WWF division and, when they learned about what I do, was asked to collect material and links on sound in an ecological context, meaning: > > - sound design / acoustic identity work for agents like WWF, Greenpeace etc > - sound art as pedagogy > - sound and/or media art using natural processes, from aeolian harp to works using digital technologies > - field recording > - noise pollution > - acoustic ecology > - etc > > i think i know at least the basics of each field but need as much examples as i can get. > > any hint to interesting work is appreciated. thanks a lot! > > tobias > > > _______________________________________________ > microsound mailing list > microsound at microsound.org > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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