[microsound] "No Input Mixing Board"

[Nic Freed]

Thank you very much for replying so fast! I do like Larseneurs, but I do not
speak french, so I do not know how much I can use their site :(

You explained that very well, and now that I understand, I am very anxious
to try ;)

If you don't mind my asking, where might I get a cheap mixing board with an
input and output? Maybe somewhere on ebay or something?

Thanks again!

--Nic

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Michal Seta <mis at artengine.ca> wrote:

> Hi Nic,
>
> The base idea behind the no input mixing board is that a mixing board
> is never perfectly silent.  It is then expected that when you plug its
> output to its input, the inherent noise (or hum) that is within the
> system will quickly start adding itself up and you will be able to
> build a feedback loop.  Most mixers have pre-amps built in which can
> greatly help you build the sound faster (and they will add a little
> bit of noise to the signal as well).  You can then use the EQ knobs to
> shape the resulting signal.
>
> Some mixing boards come with built-in effects so you could very easily
> start sculpting very intricate soundscapes but if you want to be true
> to Nakamura you should use a plain mixing board with only controls
> being volume, gain and some EQ (usually just 3 knobs on simple boards:
> treble, mid and bass).  Note that having multiple mixing strips and
> ways of cross-connecting them gives you an advantage (most mixers will
> have auxiliary inputs and outputs which you can exploit to make cross
> connections between different strips).
>
> Getting a cheap mixing board will bring you quick instant
> gratification because those will usually have higher signal to noise
> ratio.  You will be feeding back in no time.
>
> If such minimal meas of noise making interest you, you may also be
> interested in Larseneurs (http://www.larseneur.net/NewsENG.php).  The
> idea being that you simply use a computer and let the sound pass
> directly from your microphone input straight to the output.  Your only
> control is input volume.  Your sounds will greatly depend on the
> ambient noise.
>
> Happy feedback!
>
> ./MiS
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Nic Freed <beatthefinalboss at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello :)
> > I have become very interested in the works of Toshimaru Nakamura
> recently,
> > with his self-named "No-Input Mixing Board", and I would like to learn
> more
> > about it. From what I understand, the output of the board is connected to
> > the input... but if so, where does the initial sound causing the feedback
> > come from? I would like to try this myself, once I understand it better,
> so
> > I was also wondering about what I would need to purchase to create
> something
> > with this method.
> > I am 15 years old and without a job, so maybe a cheap mixer and something
> to
> > create sound, like a function generator? I would probably try and get it
> for
> > my birthday, so it can't be too expensive :x
> > Thank you very much, in advance!
> > --Nic
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