[microsound] Re : musical structure

Tue Sep 15 05:31:23 EDT 2009

I tend to store musical gestures, fragments, I have evolved or
composed over the years which I can then pick out at a given moment.
It is a dictionary, lexicon of sounds with a particular sound
identity, which is me I suppose. I go for particular types of sounds
and articulations I go for textures and sounds which are microsonic in
nature, though they could be derived from traditional instruments and
articulations aswell

Most of the cells come from working with previous technologies
starting with an old dusty Yamaha CX5M, now transferred to newer
machines, my Macbook and Nord G2 for example. But the cells, basis of
the work are re-used in what I consider to be the aural context at the
moment. The only thing that I have to do with this approach is to make
sure the data decay doesn;t go to far, as on occasions I have had to
write special programs to retrieve from one data format to another.

Pere

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>   1. .microsound 10th Anniversary (Kim Cascone)
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>   4. Re: FW ports on new macbooks (Charles Turner)
>   5. Venues in Vilnius (Laura Mello)
>   6. how to use jitter presets in lloopp / jitter      installation
>      glitch (guiver ben)
>   7. controller interface our of a log (Jim Prevett)
>   8. musical structure (Kim Cascone)
>   9. Re: musical structure (Info ( Aevox ))
>  10. Re: musical structure (Info ( Aevox ))
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:35:32 -0700
> From: Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com>
> To: microsound_list <microsound at or8.net>,       ".microsound list - main"
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> Subject: [microsound] .microsound 10th Anniversary
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> just checking in to see how plans are coming along for the various
> celebrations planned...can people update the Wiki if they haven't already?
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:26:47 +0300
> From: Agxivatein <contact at agxivatein.com>
> To: microsound2 <microsound at microsound.org>
> Subject: [microsound] FW ports on new macbooks
> Message-ID: <CF568DCD-96A5-4A44-B075-A34765597140 at agxivatein.com>
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> HI,
>
> I was wandering if new macbook pros are compatible with firewire 400
> machines, as they only have a firewire 800 port ??
> if so, I guess there should exist a cable from fw800 to fw400 right ??
>
> thx
>
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:28:29 -0500
> From: Joseph Misra <joemisra at gmail.com>
> To: "microsound at microsound.org" <microsound at microsound.org>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] FW ports on new macbooks
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> Yes, there are adapters that work fine.
>
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> On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Agxivatein <contact at agxivatein.com> wrote:
>
>> HI,
>>
>> I was wandering if new macbook pros are compatible with firewire 400
>> machines, as they only have a firewire 800 port ??
>> if so, I guess there should exist a cable from fw800 to fw400 right ??
>>
>> thx
>>
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:08:53 -0400
> From: Charles Turner <vze26m98 at optonline.net>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] FW ports on new macbooks
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> On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Agxivatein wrote:
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>> if so, I guess there should exist a cable from fw800 to fw400 right ??
>
> Yes. Amazon has some Sonnet adapters that are pretty cheap: $10-12US.
> Cables are more expensive. Just moved the disk image from a Mac Mimi
> to a MacBook Pro via fw400 drive interfaces and a 400->800 adapter
> cable. Nary a hitch...
>
> C
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> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:23:31 +0200
> From: "Laura Mello" <lauramello at gmx.at>
> To: microsound at or8.net
> Subject: [microsound] Venues in Vilnius
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> Dear microsounders in and from the east:
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> I?ll be from tomorrow till the 5.09 in Vilnius, does anybody have any microsound hint for the time?
>
> Thank you in advance and best sound waves (still) from Berlin
> Laura
> --
> www.lauramello.org
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:12:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: guiver ben <benreviug at yahoo.com>
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: [microsound] how to use jitter presets in lloopp / jitter
>        installation glitch
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>
>> hi All,
>>
>> sorry but i need some help / advice...
>>
>> 1.
>> i'm running 10.4.7 os with max 4.6.2 runtime and lloopp,
>> sorry i think its 1.4, on my mac g4 quicksilver.?
>>
>> i am having a similar time to the one i had learning to use
>> lloopp - intially very hard work and unable to get anything
>> really running properly. i've loaded up jitter display and
>> p;layer but am unable to patch player into display. any
>> helpful hints / advice would be most appreciated so i can
>> get started.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> 2.
>> also, i've managed to load up lloopp onto my mates newer
>> macbook which he is presently using with audio. however,
>> when i try to install jitter 1.6 runtime the machine tells
>> me that i have to have a newer version of max installed and
>> it wont let me install jitter! i have installed 4.6.3 onto
>> his machine and he's using it, so its frustrating - has
>> anyone else had this kind of glitch / problem / mistake
>> please? as he's into video and i'd like him to be able to
>> use the jitter patches / modules in lloopp also.
>>
>> its also wierd as on my g4 jitter seemed to install as part
>> of max, at least it opens up when i open up lloopp after
>> loading up the max runtime.
>>
>> best to all
>>
>> ben guiver
>>
>> --- On Sun, 8/9/09, klaus filip <klaus at klingt.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From: klaus filip <klaus at klingt.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Lloopp] lloopp - save an environment
>> > To: lloopp at klingt.org
>> > Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:37 PM
>> >
>> > On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Thomas Riedl wrote:
>> >
>> > > ahoi!
>> > >
>> > > i?m working here on a G4, OSX 10.4.11 and lloopp
>> 1.6
>> > with max/msp 4.63
>> > >
>> > > my problems on saving environments are:
>> > >
>> > > 1. when i saved an environment and then try to
>> reload
>> > it always "modul.ator_1" loses it saved
>> > "frequency-setting".
>> > > I always have to reload the environment a second
>> time.
>> > Can I do something against this "double-loading"?
>> > >
>> > this also happened to me sometimes, depending on the
>> > environment.
>> > i am afraid, you have to live with double loading.
>> > > 2. many times my saved environments lose some
>> > audiohardware-routings in some acts. what can i do?
>> > double loading does not help here?
>> > if the routings are stored properly (you coud maybe
>> look
>> > into the environment text file..) it should be loaded
>> at
>> > least at the
>> > second time.
>> > the reason for this behaviour is, that some
>> audio-ports are
>> > not present after the first envi-loading - a matter of
>> the
>> > right sequence of loaded acts.
>> >
>> > sorry for no better fix
>> > klaus
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > thx for spending some time on help!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > qirx
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> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:43:06 +0100
> From: "Jim Prevett" <Jim at spacestudios.org.uk>
> To: <microsound at or8.net>
> Subject: [microsound] controller interface our of a log
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> Hi,
> some of you might be interested in this quirky and fun controller built
> from logs.
>
> Owl Project - mLog: a hand-held wooden controller interface
> http://www.owlproject.com/
> They are doing a workshop in helping people design and build their very
> own log contoller... Definitely a future collectors item!
> http://mlogworkshop.eventbrite.com/
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:12:07 -0700
> From: Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com>
> To: microsound_list <microsound at or8.net>
> Subject: [microsound] musical structure
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> I'm gathering some info for a lecture I'm giving about structure in
> laptop music (read: electro-acoustic, noise, microsound, etc).
>
> What sorts of structure do people use in creating their work?
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:25:00 +0200
> From: "Info \( Aevox \)" <info at aevox.be>
> To: <microsound at microsound.org>,        "'microsound_list'"
>        <microsound at or8.net>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] musical structure
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> Before starting with a new laptop composition i put importance in choosing
> the right program or combinations of programms. The structure of the program
> has a certain amount of influence in the actual output.
> Further it depends if the piece has a technological startingpoint, or is
> more inbedded in a traditional (altough contemporary) background.
>
> In other words: is the laptop a kind of studio with a lot of possibilities
> but in the traditional sence, or is it by itself a musical instrument (and i
> don't mean software synthesizers etc, but as machine)
>
> Johan Vandermaelen
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: microsound-bounces at or8.net [mailto:microsound-bounces at or8.net] Namens
> Kim Cascone
> Verzonden: dinsdag 15 september 2009 8:12
> Aan: microsound_list
> Onderwerp: [microsound] musical structure
>
> I'm gathering some info for a lecture I'm giving about structure in
> laptop music (read: electro-acoustic, noise, microsound, etc).
>
> What sorts of structure do people use in creating their work?
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> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:25:00 +0200
> From: "Info \( Aevox \)" <info at aevox.be>
> To: <microsound at microsound.org>,        "'microsound_list'"
>        <microsound at or8.net>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] musical structure
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> Before starting with a new laptop composition i put importance in choosing
> the right program or combinations of programms. The structure of the program
> has a certain amount of influence in the actual output.
> Further it depends if the piece has a technological startingpoint, or is
> more inbedded in a traditional (altough contemporary) background.
>
> In other words: is the laptop a kind of studio with a lot of possibilities
> but in the traditional sence, or is it by itself a musical instrument (and i
> don't mean software synthesizers etc, but as machine)
>
> Johan Vandermaelen
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: microsound-bounces at or8.net [mailto:microsound-bounces at or8.net] Namens
> Kim Cascone
> Verzonden: dinsdag 15 september 2009 8:12
> Aan: microsound_list
> Onderwerp: [microsound] musical structure
>
> I'm gathering some info for a lecture I'm giving about structure in
> laptop music (read: electro-acoustic, noise, microsound, etc).
>
> What sorts of structure do people use in creating their work?
> _______________________________________________
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> microsound at microsound.org
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