[microsound] Someones finally said it

[Manannan Mac Lir]

In principle theyre good but in practice because of the additional loads
due to excess weight on the roof much larger timber beams are needed to
hold the extra weight and at the moment it's usually a plastic membrane
that's inserted between the roof surface and the grass on top, but they
do look cool, and fun

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Renato Fabbri"
  To: microsound at microsound.org
  Subject: Re: [microsound] Someones finally said it
  Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 02:54:51 -0700

  this is maybe the greatest source of hope i've seen so far:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_roof
  (more modest and widespread use than those on the wikipedia article
  though)


  2009/5/14 Manannan Mac Lir <macdara at email.com>

    At the end of a day long symposium on "energy and sustainability"
    yesterday a round table discussion was held with all 6 speakers,
    1 architect, 2 engineers, 2 scientists and a writer. The final
    question to the panel was what their hopes were for humanity
    given all the current blah, the first guy said as long as we kept
    "crunching the numbers" we could successfully avoid total
    collapse, I can't help think that writers like philip k. dick
    were trying to prepare us for something, the second guy started
    off normal but turned sharply, he's been writing books and
    designing ecologically sensitive buildings for 40 years and he
    said he's lost more hope the older he's gotten, "I've lived
    through 3 energy crises and two economic meltdowns and nothing
    has changed" were close to his exact words, at this point he
    started to get visibly emotional and talked about the fact that
    now people are just making it worse by "eco-bling" as he calls
    it. Why the fuck aren't we getting the point? To see the pain
    sadness and fear in a man in his late 60's (i think) was the
    first time I've seen anyone publicly express the genuine vortex
    we are in as a whole (at least in ireland and britain although  i
    think everything, similarly to the berlin wall, will , melt into
    air like our financial markets have without the banging we're
    used to the media ensuring us of), there's a thing george
    benjamin (possibly) said, it would come to the point where
    humanity would become so detached that it would witness it's own
    destruction without even wanting or being capable of reacting,
    like through a pane of glass. The air outside my door is dirty
    because of the pollutants machines spew into the atmosphere, an
    exhaust pipe is given pride of place over my lungs, legally too,
    what happens if i smash a cars lungs up? im not a great believer
    in primitivism but government has not governed. where do we go?
    little bit's, paper bags instead of plastic, cleaner washing up
    liquid... this is what we're being given, culturally i think
    there's been a huge response, in subtle but fundamental ways
    obviously not in mainstream. our society is in a state of
    collective denial before it's mass monetary hallucinations
    finally begin to contaminate its blood, perverting the inside
    before total disintegration, we don't have guns over here but you
    can be damn sure someone's gonna get them. trying to get a sense
    of joy about the future is impossible, the only thing i can do is
    try and accelerate the immanent disintegration, politically,
    socially whatever.. sorry for a pessimistic rant but its only
    through talkin about it that people understand, haved to say itd
    be nice to SEE some microdudes some time, optimism is the smile
    il get on my face when the corporate capitalist detritus has been
    purged from the immune system of the planet, probably taking a
    larger chunk of us with it anyway, free market cannibalism, who
    knows, could be the next economic model for all of us...still
    smiling tho, maybe we can eat our friends Mananann Mac Lirmacdara
    o maolbhuaidh
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