From lois.laplace at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 03:54:01 2009
From: lois.laplace at gmail.com (lois laplace)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:54:01 +0200
Subject: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design
	company London
In-Reply-To: <COL110-DS35C10C9C9C5B12FF605BAC24F0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL110-DS35C10C9C9C5B12FF605BAC24F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d8268a620906010054r508107f9o6e03cda2a1b50ac@mail.gmail.com>

for sure, this man seems to be needed good patches for him !



2009/5/31 <matdalgleish at hotmail.com>

> Perhaps I'm being cynical, but maybe there's no job and they just want some
> people to make nice Max/sc/Pd patches for them? :-)
>
>
>
> ________________________
>
> On 2009-05-31 22:07:43 +0100 Chris Bullen <auralbeesty at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Exactly! To an old fart like me trying to get out of local authority
> employ,
> > I'm sure I'm going to jump in the dark, having wasted valuable creative
> time
> > into the bargain and jeopardise my family's income. If it's real then
> this is
> > 1980's mentality. (ie: live on the edge with the excitement of working
> your
> > nuts off for the prospect of being discarded when you cease to look good
> or
> > be "useful").
> > Don't touch it with a bargepole.   Cheers ANTIHIPPI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Marinos Koutsomichalis <marinos at agxivatein.com>
> > To: microsound at microsound.org
> > Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 3:55:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design
> company
> > London
> >
> >
> > Great,
> >
> > sb offers a job but gives no details of what kind of job, what money,
> what
> > hours, where and why and
> > makes it clear that he won' t answer our questions !!!!
> >
> > On my belhalf,
> >
> > You can send me cheques and money and describe the project you want me to
> > pursue,
> > and I will implement it sometime in the future - but i WILL NOT answer
> when
> > or HOW so don' t bother asking...
> >
> > :-))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We will NOT answer any questions about what company we are offering this
> > amazing position from, nor who our clients our.
> >
> >
> > We will not respond to any emails until we have listened to your work and
> had
> > a chance to go over your patch builds.
> >
> >
> > On 31 ??? 2009, at 4:53 ??, Colin Tottero wrote:
> >
> > Hey Sound Designers - DSP Geeks - Sound Synthesis Enthusiasts.
> >
> > Do Max - SuperCollider - Pd?
> > Do get in touch!
> >
> > We are a London based creative audio company - working with some of the
> > worlds leading brands & agencies.
> >
> >
> > We have a opportunity for person/s to join our company as an intern -
> which
> > could lead to a part time job in our studios in London
> >
> > We are ideally looking for someone who is very talented DSP creative -
> > programming sounds using MAX, SuperCollider, or Pd, is this you?
> >
> > Do you want to work on amazing projects, and be part of one of the most
> > exciting creative audio companies in the UK?
> >
> > Applying for the Job:
> >
> > We are advertising this position anonymously because we want to hear from
> all
> > serious candidates, and allow ourselves to choose the correct person
> based on
> > merit & ability.
> >
> > We would like hear from you! So this is open to all persons any age,
> > background.
> >
> > This is NOT a musicians job, so its about your ability to create patches,
> and
> > construct patches using these DSP - Its about your imagination and focus
> and
> > dedication to your creative work.
> >
> > How to get the job.
> > : Write a Mini Biog - Upload this with examples of your work.
> > : Upload some of your previous work/s using Dropsend / Yousendit
> > : Submit your demos - patches - builds
> > : Wait for us to contact you, if you have been successful we will get in
> > touch.
> > Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk
> >
> > All Applicants, must be supported by demonstrating programming skills,
> and
> > creative abilities.
> >
> > We are accepting submissions from May 25th - June 23rd 2009, however we
> will
> > take on-board someone sooner if we feel their skills are perfect for us
> > during this time.
> > We will not respond to any emails about any submission unless you have
> > followed the
> > submission format listed below.
> >
> > We will NOT answer any questions about what company we are offering this
> > amazing position from, nor who our clients our.
> >
> >
> > We will not respond to any emails until we have listened to your work and
> had
> > a chance to go over your patch builds.
> >
> > If you have been successful we will contact you.
> >
> > Dont forget to include your contact details & name on every piece of
> media,
> > and communication.
> >
> > Please Do Not attach media to emails only use these FREE online systems
> >
> > www.dropsendit.com
> > www.yousendit.com
> >
> > Remembering to add your name and contact details to the files / or
> attached
> > .txt file.
> >
> > Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free. Try it Now!
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
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From dan at listening-station.net  Mon Jun  1 11:57:50 2009
From: dan at listening-station.net (dan)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:57:50 -0600
Subject: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design
	company London
In-Reply-To: <d8268a620906010054r508107f9o6e03cda2a1b50ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL110-DS35C10C9C9C5B12FF605BAC24F0@phx.gbl>
	<d8268a620906010054r508107f9o6e03cda2a1b50ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A219250-EFBB-4531-B849-5BE017A75B15@listening-station.net>

maybe this is a clandestine attempt to start a new microsound project:

broken patches for hire.

dan.

On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:54 AM, lois laplace wrote:

> for sure, this man seems to be needed good patches for him !
>
>
>
> 2009/5/31 <matdalgleish at hotmail.com>
> Perhaps I'm being cynical, but maybe there's no job and they just  
> want some people to make nice Max/sc/Pd patches for them? :-)
>
>
>
> ________________________
>
> On 2009-05-31 22:07:43 +0100 Chris Bullen  
> <auralbeesty at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Exactly! To an old fart like me trying to get out of local  
> authority employ,
> > I'm sure I'm going to jump in the dark, having wasted valuable  
> creative time
> > into the bargain and jeopardise my family's income. If it's real  
> then this is
> > 1980's mentality. (ie: live on the edge with the excitement of  
> working your
> > nuts off for the prospect of being discarded when you cease to  
> look good or
> > be "useful").
> > Don't touch it with a bargepole.   Cheers ANTIHIPPI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Marinos Koutsomichalis <marinos at agxivatein.com>
> > To: microsound at microsound.org
> > Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 3:55:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound  
> Design company
> > London
> >
> >
> > Great,
> >
> > sb offers a job but gives no details of what kind of job, what  
> money, what
> > hours, where and why and
> > makes it clear that he won' t answer our questions !!!!
> >
> > On my belhalf,
> >
> > You can send me cheques and money and describe the project you  
> want me to
> > pursue,
> > and I will implement it sometime in the future - but i WILL NOT  
> answer when
> > or HOW so don' t bother asking...
> >
> > :-))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We will NOT answer any questions about what company we are  
> offering this
> > amazing position from, nor who our clients our.
> >
> >
> > We will not respond to any emails until we have listened to your  
> work and had
> > a chance to go over your patch builds.
> >
> >
> > On 31 ??? 2009, at 4:53 ??, Colin Tottero wrote:
> >
> > Hey Sound Designers - DSP Geeks - Sound Synthesis Enthusiasts.
> >
> > Do Max - SuperCollider - Pd?
> > Do get in touch!
> >
> > We are a London based creative audio company - working with some  
> of the
> > worlds leading brands & agencies.
> >
> >
> > We have a opportunity for person/s to join our company as an  
> intern - which
> > could lead to a part time job in our studios in London
> >
> > We are ideally looking for someone who is very talented DSP  
> creative -
> > programming sounds using MAX, SuperCollider, or Pd, is this you?
> >
> > Do you want to work on amazing projects, and be part of one of the  
> most
> > exciting creative audio companies in the UK?
> >
> > Applying for the Job:
> >
> > We are advertising this position anonymously because we want to  
> hear from all
> > serious candidates, and allow ourselves to choose the correct  
> person based on
> > merit & ability.
> >
> > We would like hear from you! So this is open to all persons any age,
> > background.
> >
> > This is NOT a musicians job, so its about your ability to create  
> patches, and
> > construct patches using these DSP - Its about your imagination and  
> focus and
> > dedication to your creative work.
> >
> > How to get the job.
> > : Write a Mini Biog - Upload this with examples of your work.
> > : Upload some of your previous work/s using Dropsend / Yousendit
> > : Submit your demos - patches - builds
> > : Wait for us to contact you, if you have been successful we will  
> get in
> > touch.
> > Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk
> >
> > All Applicants, must be supported by demonstrating programming  
> skills, and
> > creative abilities.
> >
> > We are accepting submissions from May 25th - June 23rd 2009,  
> however we will
> > take on-board someone sooner if we feel their skills are perfect  
> for us
> > during this time.
> > We will not respond to any emails about any submission unless you  
> have
> > followed the
> > submission format listed below.
> >
> > We will NOT answer any questions about what company we are  
> offering this
> > amazing position from, nor who our clients our.
> >
> >
> > We will not respond to any emails until we have listened to your  
> work and had
> > a chance to go over your patch builds.
> >
> > If you have been successful we will contact you.
> >
> > Dont forget to include your contact details & name on every piece  
> of media,
> > and communication.
> >
> > Please Do Not attach media to emails only use these FREE online  
> systems
> >
> > www.dropsendit.com
> > www.yousendit.com
> >
> > Remembering to add your name and contact details to the files / or  
> attached
> > .txt file.
> >
> > Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. Try it Now!
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


From time4cookies at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  1 18:28:28 2009
From: time4cookies at hotmail.com (greg g)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 22:28:28 +0000
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
References: <mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <BAY136-W90A642CBF4B7EFBDDCFE6994C0@phx.gbl>


question about naked lunch:

can we use burrough's voice for the work?  copyright issues?

 

_________________________________________________________________
Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync.
http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009
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From lauramello at gmx.at  Tue Jun  2 05:24:11 2009
From: lauramello at gmx.at (Laura Mello)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:24:11 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Applying for the Job
Message-ID: <20090602092411.80230@gmx.net>

I?m certainly sending my
liar_detection.pat + automatic_destroy.pat Feature,
just in case...

Cheers
Laura


Message: 3
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:57:50 -0600
From: dan <dan at listening-station.net>
Subject: Re: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design
????company London
To: dan at listening-station.net>
Subject: Re: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design
????company London
To: microsound at microsound.org
Message-ID:
????<4A219250-EFBB-4531-B849-5BE017A75B15 at listening-station.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes

maybe this is a clandestine attempt to start a new microsound project:

broken patches for hire.

dan.

On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:54 AM, lois laplace wrote:

> for sure, this man seems to be needed good patches for him !
>
>
>
> 2009/5/31 <4A219250-EFBB-4531-B849-5BE017A75B15 at listening-station.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes

maybe this is a clandestine attempt to start a new microsound project:

broken patches for hire.

dan.

On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:54 AM, lois laplace wrote:

> for sure, this man seems to be needed good patches for him !
>
>
>
> 2009/5/31 <matdalgleish at hotmail.com>
> Perhaps I'm being cynical, but maybe there's no job and they just ?
> want some people to make nice Max/sc/Pd patches for them? :-)
>
>         


-- 
www.lauramello.org

     
-- 
"The three main intellectual ages of man are:
0 - 5     years age of WHY
5 - 10   years age of WHY NOT
10 - 75  years age of BECAUSE"

DEBONO, Edward, The dog exercising machine, A study of children as inventors, Harmondsworth 
[u.a.] : Penguin Books, 1971. - 125 S. . - 0-14-080616-4. - (Penguin education)


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From rg at sapo.pt  Tue Jun  2 13:18:51 2009
From: rg at sapo.pt (Ricardo Guerreiro)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:18:51 +0100
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <761BDF0A-AECD-4461-9FE0-50F876FE07C5@sapo.pt>

I'm in.

Em 2009/05/26, ?s 13:51, Kim Cascone escreveu:

> I very much like the idea of forming a microsound project around the
> 50th Anniversary of the book Naked Lunch
> I'm currently reading a book called 'Noise' which is comprised of
> short stories influenced by the work of Sonic Youth
> so maybe we can try and do something in reverse: creating sound art
> works that are influenced by a book
> here is a rough idea for the project:
> - all works must be 3 minutes or under
> - deadline: June 30 2009
> - content: cut-ups, post-modern ruptures and breaks, microsonic
> granular deconstruction, letting the future leak through fractured
> text and sound...this is the tribute we would like to pay to the man
> who - other than John Cage - did so much for the arts
>
> post a message to the list and let us know if we can expect a piece
> from you...we also need some visuals for the microsound web page so
> any visual artists out there wanting to do something please also post
> to the list?
> thanks!
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>


From js0000 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 14:09:32 2009
From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:09:32 -0400
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <BAY136-W90A642CBF4B7EFBDDCFE6994C0@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<BAY136-W90A642CBF4B7EFBDDCFE6994C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <eb84d37a0906021109u3bd74c19mb84923b016591d4d@mail.gmail.com>

hey

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, greg g <time4cookies at hotmail.com> wrote:
> can we use burrough's voice for the work?? copyright issues?

you'll have to ask a lawyer on that.

since this is a non-commercial enterprise, there's no revenue for
burrough's estate to litigate over. and i have no idea whether
burrough's estate is so money grubbing anyway. in all likelihood, you
will pass under the radar, like a million other artists who have cut
up or copied some portion of another 'famous' artist's work.

but i am not a lawyer.

john cage's estate sued someone over putting some silence at the end
of a cd and calling it a track. so you see, no matter how open minded
or non-economic a given artist is, the estate is a different matter.

-- 
\js  [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ]

From js0000 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 14:09:32 2009
From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:09:32 -0400
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <BAY136-W90A642CBF4B7EFBDDCFE6994C0@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<BAY136-W90A642CBF4B7EFBDDCFE6994C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <eb84d37a0906021109u3bd74c19mb84923b016591d4d@mail.gmail.com>

hey

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, greg g <time4cookies at hotmail.com> wrote:
> can we use burrough's voice for the work?? copyright issues?

you'll have to ask a lawyer on that.

since this is a non-commercial enterprise, there's no revenue for
burrough's estate to litigate over. and i have no idea whether
burrough's estate is so money grubbing anyway. in all likelihood, you
will pass under the radar, like a million other artists who have cut
up or copied some portion of another 'famous' artist's work.

but i am not a lawyer.

john cage's estate sued someone over putting some silence at the end
of a cd and calling it a track. so you see, no matter how open minded
or non-economic a given artist is, the estate is a different matter.

-- 
\js  [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ]

From fdurso at comcast.net  Wed Jun  3 01:21:30 2009
From: fdurso at comcast.net (fdurso at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 05:21:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [microsound] Tweet-A-Sound....
In-Reply-To: <mailman.173.1240369063.6277.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <1059026684.2833061244006490231.JavaMail.root@sz0161a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Subject: [microsound] tweet sound... 
To: ? microsound at microsound.org 
Message-ID: < DD0624FA-9656-4852-9C4B-B0C1041B3238 at gmail.com > 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 

http://tr.im/jkDA 


---------------------------- 


cool stuff, thanks! 


Frank "late to the game again" D'U 

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From eduardoacosta at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 07:36:38 2009
From: eduardoacosta at gmail.com (Eduardo Acosta)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:36:38 +0200
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <761BDF0A-AECD-4461-9FE0-50F876FE07C5@sapo.pt>
References: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
	<761BDF0A-AECD-4461-9FE0-50F876FE07C5@sapo.pt>
Message-ID: <9d0ec1d60906030436n6a87607brebd6dcdd494eb219@mail.gmail.com>

Count me in!
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From gary at meterpool.com  Wed Jun  3 14:47:45 2009
From: gary at meterpool.com (Gary R. Weisberg)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:47:45 -0400
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <4A26C551.6070009@meterpool.com>

Kim,

Since some of us may have pieces to upload for this project, can a 
folder and upload specs be created for it?

Gary

Kim Cascone wrote:
> I very much like the idea of forming a microsound project around the  
> 50th Anniversary of the book Naked Lunch
> I'm currently reading a book called 'Noise' which is comprised of  
> short stories influenced by the work of Sonic Youth
> so maybe we can try and do something in reverse: creating sound art  
> works that are influenced by a book
> here is a rough idea for the project:
> - all works must be 3 minutes or under
> - deadline: June 30 2009
> - content: cut-ups, post-modern ruptures and breaks, microsonic  
> granular deconstruction, letting the future leak through fractured  
> text and sound...this is the tribute we would like to pay to the man  
> who - other than John Cage - did so much for the arts
>
> post a message to the list and let us know if we can expect a piece  
> from you...we also need some visuals for the microsound web page so  
> any visual artists out there wanting to do something please also post  
> to the list?
> thanks!
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
>   


From mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es  Thu Jun  4 02:36:14 2009
From: mail at jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jaime_Mun=E1rriz_Ortiz?=)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:36:14 +0200
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
Message-ID: <4A276B5E.4010204@jaime-munarriz.jazztel.es>

I want to collaborate. I had a big impact on my youth.

Jaime Mun?rriz

tagmagic.wordpress.com
experimentaclub/data/druhb

From sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Jun  4 06:18:31 2009
From: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk (Colin Tottero)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:18:31 +0100
Subject: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound
	Design	company London
In-Reply-To: <4A219250-EFBB-4531-B849-5BE017A75B15@listening-station.net>
References: <COL110-DS35C10C9C9C5B12FF605BAC24F0@phx.gbl>
	<d8268a620906010054r508107f9o6e03cda2a1b50ac@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A219250-EFBB-4531-B849-5BE017A75B15@listening-station.net>
Message-ID: <BLU131-W18B0928895AF34A1DA21A6A04B0@phx.gbl>


Hello all.
Firstly, apologies to admin staff for posting our intern announcement in the wrong section. I've tried to post this in the Announcements section, however it bounced back saying i didn't have permission.Nonetheless, I wanted to address all respondents' concerns and annoyances.
We're posting the intern opportunity anonymously as we don't want applicants to see our current work, and influence their submissions based upon what they think we might be after, or our style of sound design at present. We also get a lot of lazy applicants for sound design jobs who are motivated purely by our client list and getting their foot in the door, but not about the art or passion for creative sound design.We want to be influenced by whoever in, as well as guiding them as to the way we work and share our experience.
Of course the risk of posting anonymously is that we could be anybody, either an established company or a sole man/woman leeching the patches, creativity and inspiration of others.I understand if/why you guys are cynical about our proposition/request. We've got no intention of using anyone's work without credit, it's happened to us in the past, and it's damned infuriating.
Nonetheless, for those that are interested in the posting, I really do look forward to receiving any responses.
Best wishes,
Colin and the team.
> From: dan at listening-station.net
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:57:50 -0600
> Subject: Re: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design	company London
> 
> maybe this is a clandestine attempt to start a new microsound project:
> 
> broken patches for hire.
> 
> dan.
> 
> On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:54 AM, lois laplace wrote:
> 
>> for sure, this man seems to be needed good patches for him !
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/5/31 <matdalgleish at hotmail.com>
>> Perhaps I'm being cynical, but maybe there's no job and they just  
>> want some people to make nice Max/sc/Pd patches for them? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________
>>
>> On 2009-05-31 22:07:43 +0100 Chris Bullen  
>> <auralbeesty at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Exactly! To an old fart like me trying to get out of local  
>> authority employ,
>>> I'm sure I'm going to jump in the dark, having wasted valuable  
>> creative time
>>> into the bargain and jeopardise my family's income. If it's real  
>> then this is
>>> 1980's mentality. (ie: live on the edge with the excitement of  
>> working your
>>> nuts off for the prospect of being discarded when you cease to  
>> look good or
>>> be "useful").
>>> Don't touch it with a bargepole.   Cheers ANTIHIPPI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>  From: Marinos Koutsomichalis <marinos at agxivatein.com>
>>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>>> Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 3:55:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound  
>> Design company
>>> London
>>>
>>>
>>> Great,
>>>
>>> sb offers a job but gives no details of what kind of job, what  
>> money, what
>>> hours, where and why and
>>> makes it clear that he won' t answer our questions !!!!
>>>
>>> On my belhalf,
>>>
>>> You can send me cheques and money and describe the project you  
>> want me to
>>> pursue,
>>> and I will implement it sometime in the future - but i WILL NOT  
>> answer when
>>> or HOW so don' t bother asking...
>>>
>>> :-))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We will NOT answer any questions about what company we are  
>> offering this
>>> amazing position from, nor who our clients our.
>>>
>>>
>>> We will not respond to any emails until we have listened to your  
>> work and had
>>> a chance to go over your patch builds.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31 ??? 2009, at 4:53 ??, Colin Tottero wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Sound Designers - DSP Geeks - Sound Synthesis Enthusiasts.
>>>
>>> Do Max - SuperCollider - Pd?
>>> Do get in touch!
>>>
>>> We are a London based creative audio company - working with some  
>> of the
>>> worlds leading brands & agencies.
>>>
>>>
>>> We have a opportunity for person/s to join our company as an  
>> intern - which
>>> could lead to a part time job in our studios in London
>>>
>>> We are ideally looking for someone who is very talented DSP  
>> creative -
>>> programming sounds using MAX, SuperCollider, or Pd, is this you?
>>>
>>> Do you want to work on amazing projects, and be part of one of the  
>> most
>>> exciting creative audio companies in the UK?
>>>
>>> Applying for the Job:
>>>
>>> We are advertising this position anonymously because we want to  
>> hear from all
>>> serious candidates, and allow ourselves to choose the correct  
>> person based on
>>> merit & ability.
>>>
>>> We would like hear from you! So this is open to all persons any age,
>>> background.
>>>
>>> This is NOT a musicians job, so its about your ability to create  
>> patches, and
>>> construct patches using these DSP - Its about your imagination and  
>> focus and
>>> dedication to your creative work.
>>>
>>> How to get the job.
>>> : Write a Mini Biog - Upload this with examples of your work.
>>> : Upload some of your previous work/s using Dropsend / Yousendit
>>> : Submit your demos - patches - builds
>>> : Wait for us to contact you, if you have been successful we will  
>> get in
>>> touch.
>>> Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk
>>>
>>> All Applicants, must be supported by demonstrating programming  
>> skills, and
>>> creative abilities.
>>>
>>> We are accepting submissions from May 25th - June 23rd 2009,  
>> however we will
>>> take on-board someone sooner if we feel their skills are perfect  
>> for us
>>> during this time.
>>> We will not respond to any emails about any submission unless you  
>> have
>>> followed the
>>> submission format listed below.
>>>
>>> We will NOT answer any questions about what company we are  
>> offering this
>>> amazing position from, nor who our clients our.
>>>
>>>
>>> We will not respond to any emails until we have listened to your  
>> work and had
>>> a chance to go over your patch builds.
>>>
>>> If you have been successful we will contact you.
>>>
>>> Dont forget to include your contact details & name on every piece  
>> of media,
>>> and communication.
>>>
>>> Please Do Not attach media to emails only use these FREE online  
>> systems
>>>
>>> www.dropsendit.com
>>> www.yousendit.com
>>>
>>> Remembering to add your name and contact details to the files / or  
>> attached
>>> .txt file.
>>>
>>> Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free. Try it Now!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> microsound mailing list
>>> microsound at microsound.org
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>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>>
>>>
>>
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From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch  Thu Jun  4 06:49:20 2009
From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:49:20 +0200
Subject: [microsound] test
In-Reply-To: <eb84d37a0906021109u3bd74c19mb84923b016591d4d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<BAY136-W90A642CBF4B7EFBDDCFE6994C0@phx.gbl>
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dear list,

do you get my messages?

one reply only please, just so i know.

thanks,

tobias



Am 02.06.2009 um 20:09 schrieb john saylor:

> hey
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, greg g <time4cookies at hotmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> can we use burrough's voice for the work?  copyright issues?
>
> you'll have to ask a lawyer on that.
>
> since this is a non-commercial enterprise, there's no revenue for
> burrough's estate to litigate over. and i have no idea whether
> burrough's estate is so money grubbing anyway. in all likelihood, you
> will pass under the radar, like a million other artists who have cut
> up or copied some portion of another 'famous' artist's work.
>
> but i am not a lawyer.
>
> john cage's estate sued someone over putting some silence at the end
> of a cd and calling it a track. so you see, no matter how open minded
> or non-economic a given artist is, the estate is a different matter.
>
> -- 
> \js  [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ]
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

---

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Tobias Reber
Vechigen Dorf
3067 Boll
Switzerland

mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69
email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
www.myspace.com/stereorabbi


From sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Jun  4 13:09:51 2009
From: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk (Colin Tottero)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:09:51 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Dear List - Regarding our MAX MSP - Supercollider Job
 at Sound Design	company London
In-Reply-To: <d8268a620906010054r508107f9o6e03cda2a1b50ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL110-DS35C10C9C9C5B12FF605BAC24F0@phx.gbl>
	<d8268a620906010054r508107f9o6e03cda2a1b50ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU131-W10AF05E28CD4BD4DA1D0D1A04B0@phx.gbl>


Hello ALL
I have emailed Tobias directly, and he will be able to confirm we are a serious company. those of you who are London based .. please do get in touch
and for the record... we require Max msp... because the sound design requires object orientated knowledgeand you wouldnt be doing much Max... let us find someone local, enthusiastic and creative & talented...then we can figure out the sums with the lucky person
best wishes to all on list. 
Tobias.. over to you..  please could you confirm our bonafide company status.
SP
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:54:01 +0200
From: lois.laplace at gmail.com
To: microsound at microsound.org
Subject: Re: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design	company London

for sure, this man seems to be needed good patches for him ! 



2009/5/31  <matdalgleish at hotmail.com>

Perhaps I'm being cynical, but maybe there's no job and they just want some people to make nice Max/sc/Pd patches for them? :-)







________________________



On 2009-05-31 22:07:43 +0100 Chris Bullen <auralbeesty at btinternet.com> wrote:



>

> Exactly! To an old fart like me trying to get out of local authority employ,

> I'm sure I'm going to jump in the dark, having wasted valuable creative time

> into the bargain and jeopardise my family's income. If it's real then this is

> 1980's mentality. (ie: live on the edge with the excitement of working your

> nuts off for the prospect of being discarded when you cease to look good or

> be "useful").

> Don't touch it with a bargepole.   Cheers ANTIHIPPI

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>  From: Marinos Koutsomichalis <marinos at agxivatein.com>

> To: microsound at microsound.org

> Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 3:55:39 PM

> Subject: Re: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design company

> London

>

>

> Great,

>

> sb offers a job but gives no details of what kind of job, what money, what

> hours, where and why and

> makes it clear that he won' t answer our questions !!!!

>

> On my belhalf,

>

> You can send me cheques and money and describe the project you want me to

> pursue,

> and I will implement it sometime in the future - but i WILL NOT answer when

> or HOW so don' t bother asking...

>

> :-))

>

>

>

>

>

> We will NOT answer any questions about what company we are offering this

> amazing position from, nor who our clients our.

>

>

> We will not respond to any emails until we have listened to your work and had

> a chance to go over your patch builds.

>

>

> On 31 ??? 2009, at 4:53 ??, Colin Tottero wrote:

>

> Hey Sound Designers - DSP Geeks - Sound Synthesis Enthusiasts.

>

> Do Max - SuperCollider - Pd?

> Do get in touch!

>

> We are a London based creative audio company - working with some of the

> worlds leading brands & agencies.

>

>

> We have a opportunity for person/s to join our company as an intern - which

> could lead to a part time job in our studios in London

>

> We are ideally looking for someone who is very talented DSP creative -

> programming sounds using MAX, SuperCollider, or Pd, is this you?

>

> Do you want to work on amazing projects, and be part of one of the most

> exciting creative audio companies in the UK?

>

> Applying for the Job:

>

> We are advertising this position anonymously because we want to hear from all

> serious candidates, and allow ourselves to choose the correct person based on

> merit & ability.

>

> We would like hear from you! So this is open to all persons any age,

> background.

>

> This is NOT a musicians job, so its about your ability to create patches, and

> construct patches using these DSP - Its about your imagination and focus and

> dedication to your creative work.

>

> How to get the job.

> : Write a Mini Biog - Upload this with examples of your work.

> : Upload some of your previous work/s using Dropsend / Yousendit

> : Submit your demos - patches - builds

> : Wait for us to contact you, if you have been successful we will get in

> touch.

> Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk

>

> All Applicants, must be supported by demonstrating programming skills, and

> creative abilities.

>

> We are accepting submissions from May 25th - June 23rd 2009, however we will

> take on-board someone sooner if we feel their skills are perfect for us

> during this time.

> We will not respond to any emails about any submission unless you have

> followed the

> submission format listed below.

>

> We will NOT answer any questions about what company we are offering this

> amazing position from, nor who our clients our.

>

>

> We will not respond to any emails until we have listened to your work and had

> a chance to go over your patch builds.

>

> If you have been successful we will contact you.

>

> Dont forget to include your contact details & name on every piece of media,

> and communication.

>

> Please Do Not attach media to emails only use these FREE online systems

>

> www.dropsendit.com

> www.yousendit.com

>

> Remembering to add your name and contact details to the files / or attached

> .txt file.

>

> Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk

>

> ________________________________

> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free. Try it Now!

> _______________________________________________

> microsound mailing list

> microsound at microsound.org

> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

>

> _______________________________________________

> microsound mailing list

> microsound at microsound.org

> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

>

>



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From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch  Thu Jun  4 13:18:20 2009
From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:18:20 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Fwd: Hello
References: <E581A9D9-EEA1-4FC4-9FD2-FD74471670D9@radium-audio.com>
Message-ID: <74C5B1AF-FBDD-4A27-908A-F93339AEFB8B@sunrise.ch>

this just in from the anonymous london company looking for an intern.

Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:

> Von:
> Datum: 4. Juni 2009 19:04:58 GMT+02:00
> An: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
> Betreff: Hello
>
> HI Tobias
>
> The posting is from                     .
> so.. if you wouldnt mind posting back to Microsound..  but allow us  
> to retain our anonymity..
> we would really that and appreciate your help..
>
> much love
>
> Best Wishes

---

Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer

Tobias Reber
Vechigen Dorf
3067 Boll
Switzerland

mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69
email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
www.myspace.com/stereorabbi

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From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Thu Jun  4 14:37:03 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:37:03 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Dear List - Regarding our MAX MSP - Supercollider
 Job at Sound Design company London
Message-ID: <4A28144F.7000105@anechoicmedia.com>

OK -- what I suggest Colin is that you figure out WHY your emails are 
being bounced from the announce list (a quick note to the list admins 
would probably clear this up) and then take any and all further 
discussion of this subject there
:)


From the.apx at libero.it  Thu Jun  4 14:42:16 2009
From: the.apx at libero.it (Adern X)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:42:16 +0200
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <20090604204216.550646de@pigeon>

Count me in :-)

Hi,
A.X
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From the.apx at libero.it  Thu Jun  4 14:42:16 2009
From: the.apx at libero.it (Adern X)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:42:16 +0200
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <20090604204216.550646de@pigeon>

Count me in :-)

Hi,
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From d4l3d at inbox.com  Thu Jun  4 15:58:32 2009
From: d4l3d at inbox.com (d4l3d)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:58:32 -0800
Subject: [microsound] test
In-Reply-To: <DDB7F339-620B-4592-8555-EF10CDB10B63@sunrise.ch>
References: <bay136-w90a642cbf4b7efbddcfe6994c0@phx.gbl>
	<eb84d37a0906021109u3bd74c19mb84923b016591d4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <322EB10B5CC.00000555d4l3d@inbox.com>

In case no one else has replied yet, obviously yes. This one, anyway.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
> Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:49:20 +0200
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] test
> 
> dear list,
> 
> do you get my messages?
> 
> one reply only please, just so i know.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> tobias
> 
> 
> 
> Am 02.06.2009 um 20:09 schrieb john saylor:
> 
>> hey
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, greg g <time4cookies at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> can we use burrough's voice for the work?  copyright issues?
>> 
>> you'll have to ask a lawyer on that.
>> 
>> since this is a non-commercial enterprise, there's no revenue for
>> burrough's estate to litigate over. and i have no idea whether
>> burrough's estate is so money grubbing anyway. in all likelihood, you
>> will pass under the radar, like a million other artists who have cut
>> up or copied some portion of another 'famous' artist's work.
>> 
>> but i am not a lawyer.
>> 
>> john cage's estate sued someone over putting some silence at the end
>> of a cd and calling it a track. so you see, no matter how open minded
>> or non-economic a given artist is, the estate is a different matter.
>> 
>> --
>> \js  [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ]
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> 
> ---
> 
> Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer
> 
> Tobias Reber
> Vechigen Dorf
> 3067 Boll
> Switzerland
> 
> mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69
> email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
> www.myspace.com/stereorabbi
> 
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

From vze26m98 at optonline.net  Thu Jun  4 20:53:24 2009
From: vze26m98 at optonline.net (Charles Turner)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:53:24 -0400
Subject: [microsound] test
In-Reply-To: <322EB10B5CC.00000555d4l3d@inbox.com>
References: <bay136-w90a642cbf4b7efbddcfe6994c0@phx.gbl>
	<eb84d37a0906021109u3bd74c19mb84923b016591d4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<322EB10B5CC.00000555d4l3d@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <36ACE71C-B4F5-4475-97D7-54DF451DC76F@optonline.net>

On Jun 4, 2009, at 3:58 PM, d4l3d wrote:

> In case no one else has replied yet, obviously yes. This one, anyway.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
>> Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:49:20 +0200
>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] test
>>
>> dear list,
>>
>> do you get my messages?
>>
>> one reply only please, just so i know.

Well, d4l3d-

You're very kind to reply, but I would have thought that Mr. Reber  
would have received his own message without the need for a 3rd party  
confirmation if properly subscribed.

They may not be rip off artists, but it looks like you'll get killed  
with stupidity instead.

C


From d4l3d at inbox.com  Fri Jun  5 02:18:16 2009
From: d4l3d at inbox.com (d4l3d)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:18:16 -0800
Subject: [microsound] test
In-Reply-To: <36ACE71C-B4F5-4475-97D7-54DF451DC76F@optonline.net>
References: <bay136-w90a642cbf4b7efbddcfe6994c0@phx.gbl>
	<322eb10b5cc.00000555d4l3d@inbox.com>
	<eb84d37a0906021109u3bd74c19mb84923b016591d4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <3797E36D8A8.000000AFd4l3d@inbox.com>

...and just as obviously, I replied before I thought. I tend to occasional episodes of profound naivete.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: vze26m98 at optonline.net
> Sent: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:53:24 -0400
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Subject: Re: [microsound] test
> 
> On Jun 4, 2009, at 3:58 PM, d4l3d wrote:
> 
>> In case no one else has replied yet, obviously yes. This one, anyway.
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
>>> Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:49:20 +0200
>>> To: microsound at microsound.org
>>> Subject: Re: [microsound] test
>>> 
>>> dear list,
>>> 
>>> do you get my messages?
>>> 
>>> one reply only please, just so i know.
> 
> Well, d4l3d-
> 
> You're very kind to reply, but I would have thought that Mr. Reber
> would have received his own message without the need for a 3rd party
> confirmation if properly subscribed.
> 
> They may not be rip off artists, but it looks like you'll get killed
> with stupidity instead.
> 
> C
> 
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch  Fri Jun  5 04:13:36 2009
From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:13:36 +0200
Subject: [microsound] test
In-Reply-To: <36ACE71C-B4F5-4475-97D7-54DF451DC76F@optonline.net>
References: <bay136-w90a642cbf4b7efbddcfe6994c0@phx.gbl>
	<eb84d37a0906021109u3bd74c19mb84923b016591d4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.2073.1243778032.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<322EB10B5CC.00000555d4l3d@inbox.com>
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> Well, d4l3d-
>
> You're very kind to reply, but I would have thought that Mr. Reber
> would have received his own message without the need for a 3rd party
> confirmation if properly subscribed.
>
> They may not be rip off artists, but it looks like you'll get killed
> with stupidity instead.



d4l3d,

thanks for your reply.


Charles,

that's a good observation. the thing is, I don't get them and checked  
with the admins and Kim once already (jan 21st), and the answers as to  
whether I should get my messages at all differed. so for a while I let  
it be because I rarely post anyway. will check again.

as for the other part of your message, please think about it before  
you come to any hasty conclusions.... I am NOT in ANY way associated  
with the company who put out the job mail, I was just asked to go see  
who they are and confirm independently that they are a serious  
business - since i was the first to post a cynical comment, I guess.  
my adress and humble web appearence is mentioned below - so much for  
anonymity. maybe it would have been more convincing had they asked Kim  
or a senior group member to confirm this, but that's up to them.

thanks,

: )

tobias


---

Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer

Tobias Reber
Vechigen Dorf
3067 Boll
Switzerland

mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69
email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
www.myspace.com/stereorabbi

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From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Fri Jun  5 16:58:20 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:58:20 -0700
Subject: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ***
Message-ID: <4A2986EC.40809@anechoicmedia.com>

microsounders:
both the main and announce microsound lists might experience some
downtime in the next few days

this is due to the physical server being decommissioned

in the meantime (like immediately), we are looking for a stable, warm
and loving home for the two lists

contact us offlist if you happen to know of a stable server with an
awesome uptime?
:)
the mgmt



From vze26m98 at optonline.net  Sat Jun  6 06:32:55 2009
From: vze26m98 at optonline.net (Charles Turner)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:32:55 -0400
Subject: [microsound] test
In-Reply-To: <8F260ED6-0516-49E1-B0EE-A94182F54FAA@sunrise.ch>
References: <bay136-w90a642cbf4b7efbddcfe6994c0@phx.gbl>
	<eb84d37a0906021109u3bd74c19mb84923b016591d4d@mail.gmail.com>
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	<8F260ED6-0516-49E1-B0EE-A94182F54FAA@sunrise.ch>
Message-ID: <E7BD48BC-349F-43E0-B6FB-6828849BF430@optonline.net>

On Jun 5, 2009, at 4:13 AM, Tobias Reber wrote:

> as for the other part of your message, please think about it before  
> you come to any hasty conclusions.... I am NOT in ANY way associated  
> with the company who put out the job mail, I was just asked to go  
> see who they are and confirm independently that they are a serious  
> business

Well, apologies then, Tobias. Looks like I wasn't paying attention  
either.

Best, Charles


From dev at commtom.com  Sat Jun  6 17:11:19 2009
From: dev at commtom.com (devslashnull)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:11:19 -0600
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <20090604204216.550646de@pigeon>
References: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com>
	<20090604204216.550646de@pigeon>
Message-ID: <2872A2E2-C00C-4E8E-99E2-83457ED3FB56@commtom.com>

please do count me in.


On Jun 4, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Adern X wrote:

> Count me in :-)
>
> Hi,
> A.X
> --  
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> |__|-' "Boredom is the mother of creativity" (Ron Arad)
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From ricky at suburbanvoodoo.com  Sat Jun  6 20:22:52 2009
From: ricky at suburbanvoodoo.com (Suburban Voodoo)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:22:52 +1000
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
References: <14571B8C-4465-4880-80ED-1A41E8951C51@anechoicmedia.com><20090604204216.550646de@pigeon>
	<2872A2E2-C00C-4E8E-99E2-83457ED3FB56@commtom.com>
Message-ID: <000901c9e706$1b2947c0$7800a8c0@ricky>

I would love to, count me in

From marinos at agxivatein.com  Sun Jun  7 09:43:39 2009
From: marinos at agxivatein.com (Marinos Koutsomichalis)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:43:39 +0300
Subject: [microsound] sony ECM907 MS for sale + minidisc
Message-ID: <607E499A-9B27-472C-9AFE-A33AEA9259D8@agxivatein.com>

Hi all,

I am selling a sony ECM907 MS stereo condenser microphone
and a sharp MD SR-50 minidisk recorder + a couple of cartridges

suitable for sb that wants to make his first steps on amateur on-a- 
budget  phonography

I can send them anywhere in the UK or europe 
  

From robin at robinparmar.com  Sun Jun  7 14:38:19 2009
From: robin at robinparmar.com (Robin Parmar)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:38:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
Message-ID: <191655.59613.qm@web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Kim Cascone wrote:

> I very much like the idea of forming a microsound project around the
> 50th Anniversary of the book Naked Lunch

I did extensive research on Burroughs at a much earlier point in my life. I still bear the happy scars.

So, yes, indeed, please count me in.

-----
Robin Parmar
robinparmar.com


From niconiche at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Jun  8 16:28:34 2009
From: niconiche at tiscali.co.uk (niconiche at tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:28:34 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Subject: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design
 company	London
Message-ID: <9504972.1244492914811.JavaMail.root@ps25>

'Hey' Colin Tottero

Perhaps you think all Microsound members, Max, PD and Supercollider programmers  are complete and utter mugs ..  maybe you should apply for the vacancy yourself!  Any company dealing with 'worlds leading brands and agencies' would adopt a more professional approach to a genuine job.  Me thinks you are after a load of freebies!!!  Me thinks you should do us all a favour and unsubscribe yourself from this list.

Enough said.

Nico






----Original Message----

From: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk

Date: 31/05/2009 14:53 

To: <microsound at or8.net>

Subj: [microsound] MAX MSP - Supercollider Job at Sound Design company	London






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Hey Sound Designers - DSP Geeks - Sound Synthesis Enthusiasts.


Do Max - SuperCollider - Pd?
Do get in touch!


We are a London based creative audio company - working with some of the worlds leading brands &amp; agencies.
  
We have a opportunity for person/s to join our company as an intern - which could lead to a part time job in our studios in London


We are ideally looking for someone who is very talented DSP creative - programming sounds using MAX, SuperCollider, or Pd, is this you? 


Do you want to work on amazing projects, and be part of one of the most exciting creative audio companies in the UK?


Applying for the Job: 


We are advertising this position anonymously because we want to hear from all serious candidates, and allow ourselves to choose the correct person based on merit &amp; ability.


We would like hear from you! So this is open to all persons any age, background.  


This is NOT a musicians job, so its about your ability to create patches, and construct patches using these DSP - Its about your imagination and focus and dedication to your creative work. 


How to get the job. 
: Write a Mini Biog - Upload this with examples of your work. 
: Upload some of your previous work/s using Dropsend / Yousendit 
: Submit your demos - patches - builds
: Wait for us to contact you, if you have been successful we will get in touch. 
Please email us: sound_programmer at hotmail.co.uk


All Applicants, must be supported by demonstrating programming skills, and creative abilities. 


We are accepting submissions from May 25th - June 23rd 2009, however we will take on-board someone sooner if we feel their skills are perfect for us during this time. 
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If you have been successful we will contact you.


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Please Do Not attach media to emails only use these FREE online systems


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www.yousendit.com 


Remembering to add your name and contact details to the files / or attached .txt file. 


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From barbara at carmelbuilders.com  Mon Jun  8 16:29:23 2009
From: barbara at carmelbuilders.com (barbara at carmelbuilders.com)
Date: 8 Jun 2009 15:29:23 -0500
Subject: [microsound] I am out of the Office
Message-ID: <20090608202923.27265.qmail@valley-technologies.com>

Thank you for your email.  

I will be out of the office until Monday, June15.  I will be checking email periodically but please feel free to contact our office at 262-255-2230 for immediate assistance or leave a message and I will contact you when I return.

Thank you.

Barbara Weiher
Carmel Builders, Inc
Design Build Remodel
"Where Excellence Is Defined"
262-255-2230



From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Mon Jun  8 17:57:24 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:57:24 -0700
Subject: [microsound] a periodic reminder
Message-ID: <4A2D8944.9060308@anechoicmedia.com>

please people
this list is not meant for announcing anything
except new works you want to share with the community and/or get feedback on

please please please read the frickin' statement in BIG RED LETTERS on 
the same page you happened to sub from?

it is all right there is painfully unsubtle text
screaming at you in bold red:
DO NOT POST ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE MAIN MICROSOUND LIST!!!
there is another list for this
which you can sub to and announce and cross-post to




From michael.north at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun  8 21:04:55 2009
From: michael.north at sympatico.ca (Michael North)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:04:55 -0400
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch project
In-Reply-To: <191655.59613.qm@web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <191655.59613.qm@web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B1DA551B-3688-478D-A362-786ED7D081FE@sympatico.ca>

Was wondering if it might be an idea to have people tackle different  
sections of the book, or perhaps somehow having sections overlap...or  
possibly on different takes on the book...dystopian/anarchic/drug  
fuelled/pro|anti something or other...or some sort of combo of the above
On 7-Jun-09, at 2:38 PM, Robin Parmar wrote:

>
> Kim Cascone wrote:
>
>> I very much like the idea of forming a microsound project around the
>> 50th Anniversary of the book Naked Lunch
>
> I did extensive research on Burroughs at a much earlier point in my  
> life. I still bear the happy scars.
>
> So, yes, indeed, please count me in.
>
> -----
> Robin Parmar
> robinparmar.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>

Michael North
http://tiny.cc/D116v
http://tiny.cc/wIMHz
http://www.pertin-nce.com
michael.north at sympatico.ca
"Enough with politics! On with the practical tasks of everyday life!?




From marinos at agxivatein.com  Sat Jun  6 13:53:06 2009
From: marinos at agxivatein.com (Marinos Koutsomichalis)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:53:06 +0300
Subject: [microsound] (no subject)
Message-ID: <010D3CBC-D4DB-442A-B909-6DFF120F472E@agxivatein.com>


Dear all,

Sorry for cross-postings-

**once again I included some of you in my list without asking, hoping  
you would be interested in being informed about my latest news - if  
this is not the case just say so and I' ll erase you from the list.


LATEST PROJECTS

Complete Beethoven' s Piano sonatas :
I used a pair of PVDF piezo film tabs to record the sounds produced  
by the radiation and the electro-magnetic activity of a standard CRT  
computer screen, while scrolling through a file with the complete  
piano sonatas of L.V. Beethoven.....

listen to it here:  http://marinoskoutsomichalis.com/works/page20/ 
page20.html


Sir Jack Lyons Concert Hall organ session
(an improvised session willing to dominate space)

samples here: http://marinoskoutsomichalis.com/works/organ/organ.html

Trevor Jones Studio Sessions :
Site-specific generative works were composed in order to challenge  
space aesthetically
The project was realised in 4 sessions @ the Trevor Jones Studio  
(University of York, Helsington, UK)

samples here : http://marinoskoutsomichalis.com/works/TJS/TJS.html


(my site is recently updated and you might it interesting to check  
other pages, too)


CONCERTS :

I have no scheduled live concerts for the next months, yet, as I am  
really busy with an installation piece,
-but if somebody is interested in booking me in July or August for a  
live performance or lecture he may contact me.
there are 2 scheduled performances of acoustic works, though:

"ode to Carneades" for solo Clarinet will be performed live @  
Endimburgh @ the 8th of June @ Traverse Theater by the red note ensemble

"3d string quartet - pandamator" will be performed on the 26th of  
June @ the Sir Jack Lyons Concert Hall by the Chimera Ensemble


RELEASES

ANASISEIPSYCHOS cd is just released by Entr' acte (E69)

entracte.co.uk

reviews follow

"I never heard of Marinos Koutsomichalis but his work  
'Anasiseipsychos' blew me away. Apparently it was recorded during a  
series of late-night improvisations, using sine waves, which he waves  
together. Perhaps this sound quite dull to you, as so many other  
people have used sine waves before, but Koutsomichalis does some  
pretty neat things with the sine waves. (...) Not an easy listening  
one, but certainly, when played not as loud as possible, this has a  
relaxing, ambient quality. When the volume is turned up things become  
a bit more grittier, but also more detailed. I'm reminded of Paul  
Panhuysen's work on Plinkity Plonk, but Koutsomichalis is more freely  
working around with the sine waves, and less conceptually based. A  
great work."
Frans de Waard (Vital Weekly)

"Multiple, richly layered sine tones, often acting in concert to give  
the impression of perpetually rising or falling (a la Tenney). The  
sonic effects, the eat drum-rattling and all are fine, but the  
conception struck me as too shallow, too science-experiment-y for me  
to find aesthetic purchase."
Brian Olewnick (Just in Time - Bagatellen - Squid' s Ear).

"Athens, Greece-based electro-acoustic composer and sound artist  
Marinos Koutsomichalis adopts an obviously different approach to  
Montgomery (Will Montgomery - Legend) in the single-track  
Anasiseipsychos. Koutsomichalis's interests lie in timbre, texture,  
and the ?architectural possibilities of sound,? all of which are  
addressed in his hypnotic manipulations of sine tones in the hour- 
long piece. Multiple tones successively swoop up and down, typically  
in slow-motion and often pushed to their seeming breaking points,  
with Koutsomichalis winding up the pitch of tonal masses to almost  
unbearable degrees of tension (a little bit like a rocket ship  
shooting up into space). Adding to the disorientating effect, the  
overlaying of tones also generates a multitude of resonating beats  
and frequencies. The material turns especially forceful at about the  
forty-eight-minute mark when one tone, having ascended into the  
stratosphere, is then joined by a second, then third, and so on.  
Though his sonic palette is obviously minimal, Koutsomichalis's  
treatment of it proves seductive and the listener not so much  
willingly surrenders but more gets sucked into the inexorable pull of  
the spiraling vortex. One is advised to adhere to the composer's own  
instruction to ?Play loud!? in order to reap maximum psycho-acoustic  
rewards."
textura


BIO :

Marinos Koutsomichalis (Athens, Greece 1981 - )  composer, sound-artist.

Active in the fields of both sound-art and notated music, Marinos  
Koutsomichalis profoundly indulges in sound and in auditorial  
stimuli, from within a philosophical viewpoint. He is interested in  
creating self-evident sonic experiences - organic life-forms that  
guide or inspire, in turn, their very maker.  Usually in his works,  
traditional ideas of formalism, causality or transformation are  
abandoned and "musical" references are overwhelmed, for the shake of  
sound itself, which is no longer the carrier of an artificially  
planted "meaning" or "message" but the very message itself.

As a sound-artist, he usually works within a site- and time- specific  
context, utilizing DSP techniques,field recordings and generative  
procedures. His main focus is on the architectural possibilities of  
sound - how to occupy space sonically in meaningful ways - both  
through intuitive performances and scholastic installations.  
Phonographic techniques hold a distinct place in his arsenal, as a  
tool to interpret given space or found-sounds, and further to  
document his own work, always in respect to the boundaries medium- 
oriented reproduction imposes.

Notation is just another medium for him to explore - its textural and  
timbral possibilities in particular. He is, also, into various side- 
projects or solo experiments, from time to time, when he feels he  
needs to do something different, trying to constantly re-establish  
his individual relationship with sound - and even-though this might  
introduce conceptualism sometimes, sound remains the only aesthetic  
criteria.

His work has been released by various labels including Entr' acte  
(uk) and EchoMusic(gr), while he both performs / is being performed  
around the globe - amongst others Usa, Greece, Uk, Netherlands,  
Belgium, Germany, Austria, Switzerland. He is currently pursuing an  
MA by research in composition with digital media at the university of  
York, under the supervision of dr Tony Myatt, whilst he holds an  
offer to undertake a Phd in music in the same university. He also  
holds degrees in Harmony, Counterpoint and Management. He spends most  
of his time between York, Athens and Creta.



--------------------------------------------------------
Marinos Koutsomichalis
--------------------------------------------------------
web:
www.marinoskoutsomichalis.com
marinos at marinoskoutsomichalis.com
--------------------------------------------------------
Greece:
Paloumpioti 33, 11476, Athens
mobile: 00306938954510
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Uk:
11, Granville Terrace
YO10 3DY, York
mobile: 0044(0)7593021328


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From traktorman at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 01:31:44 2009
From: traktorman at gmail.com (tkrakowiak)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 01:31:44 -0400
Subject: [microsound] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <010D3CBC-D4DB-442A-B909-6DFF120F472E@agxivatein.com>
References: <010D3CBC-D4DB-442A-B909-6DFF120F472E@agxivatein.com>
Message-ID: <aa0f71fc0906082231q71e5a23ene345c111aa41e103@mail.gmail.com>

lol

2009/6/6 Marinos Koutsomichalis <marinos at agxivatein.com>

>
> Dear all,
> Sorry for cross-postings-
>
> **once again I included some of you in my list without asking, hoping you
> would be interested in being informed about my latest news - if this is not
> the case just say so and I' ll erase you from the list.
>
>
> LATEST PROJECTS
>
> Complete Beethoven' s Piano sonatas :
> I used a pair of PVDF piezo film tabs to record the sounds produced by the
> radiation and the electro-magnetic activity of a standard CRT computer
> screen, while scrolling through a file with the complete piano sonatas of
> L.V. Beethoven.....
>
> listen to it here:
> http://marinoskoutsomichalis.com/works/page20/page20.html
>
>
> Sir Jack Lyons Concert Hall organ session
> (an improvised session willing to dominate space)
>
> samples here: http://marinoskoutsomichalis.com/works/organ/organ.html
>
> Trevor Jones Studio Sessions :
> Site-specific generative works were composed in order to challenge space
> aesthetically
> The project was realised in 4 sessions @ the Trevor Jones Studio
> (University of York, Helsington, UK)
>
> samples here : http://marinoskoutsomichalis.com/works/TJS/TJS.html
>
>
> (my site is recently updated and you might it interesting to check other
> pages, too)
>
>
> CONCERTS :
>
> I have no scheduled live concerts for the next months, yet, as I am really
> busy with an installation piece,
> -but if somebody is interested in booking me in July or August for a live
> performance or lecture he may contact me.
> there are 2 scheduled performances of acoustic works, though:
>
> "ode to Carneades" for solo Clarinet will be performed live @ Endimburgh @
> the 8th of June @ Traverse Theater by the red note ensemble
>
> "3d string quartet - pandamator" will be performed on the 26th of June @
> the Sir Jack Lyons Concert Hall by the Chimera Ensemble
>
>
> RELEASES
>
> ANASISEIPSYCHOS cd is just released by Entr' acte (E69)
>
> entracte.co.uk
>
> reviews follow
>
> "I never heard of Marinos Koutsomichalis but his work 'Anasiseipsychos'
> blew me away. Apparently it was recorded during a series of late-night
> improvisations, using sine waves, which he waves together. Perhaps this
> sound quite dull to you, as so many other people have used sine waves
> before, but Koutsomichalis does some pretty neat things with the sine waves.
> (...) Not an easy listening one, but certainly, when played not as loud as
> possible, this has a relaxing, ambient quality. When the volume is turned up
> things become a bit more grittier, but also more detailed. I'm reminded of
> Paul Panhuysen's work on Plinkity Plonk, but Koutsomichalis is more freely
> working around with the sine waves, and less conceptually based. A great
> work."
> Frans de Waard (Vital Weekly)
>
> "Multiple, richly layered sine tones, often acting in concert to give the
> impression of perpetually rising or falling (a la Tenney). The sonic
> effects, the eat drum-rattling and all are fine, but the conception struck
> me as too shallow, too science-experiment-y for me to find aesthetic
> purchase."
> Brian Olewnick (Just in Time - Bagatellen - Squid' s Ear).
>
> "Athens, Greece-based electro-acoustic composer and sound artist Marinos
> Koutsomichalis adopts an obviously different approach to Montgomery (Will
> Montgomery - Legend) in the single-track Anasiseipsychos. Koutsomichalis's
> interests lie in timbre, texture, and the ?architectural possibilities of
> sound,? all of which are addressed in his hypnotic manipulations of sine
> tones in the hour-long piece. Multiple tones successively swoop up and down,
> typically in slow-motion and often pushed to their seeming breaking points,
> with Koutsomichalis winding up the pitch of tonal masses to almost
> unbearable degrees of tension (a little bit like a rocket ship shooting up
> into space). Adding to the disorientating effect, the overlaying of tones
> also generates a multitude of resonating beats and frequencies. The material
> turns especially forceful at about the forty-eight-minute mark when one
> tone, having ascended into the stratosphere, is then joined by a second,
> then third, and so on. Though his sonic palette is obviously minimal,
> Koutsomichalis's treatment of it proves seductive and the listener not so
> much willingly surrenders but more gets sucked into the inexorable pull of
> the spiraling vortex. One is advised to adhere to the composer's own
> instruction to ?Play loud!? in order to reap maximum psycho-acoustic
> rewards."
> textura
>
>
> BIO :
>
> Marinos Koutsomichalis (Athens, Greece 1981 - )  composer, sound-artist.
>
> Active in the fields of both sound-art and notated music, Marinos
> Koutsomichalis profoundly indulges in sound and in auditorial stimuli, from
> within a philosophical viewpoint. He is interested in creating self-evident
> sonic experiences - organic life-forms that guide or inspire, in turn, their
> very maker.  Usually in his works, traditional ideas of formalism, causality
> or transformation are abandoned and "musical" references are overwhelmed,
> for the shake of sound itself, which is no longer the carrier of an
> artificially planted "meaning" or "message" but the very message itself.
>
> As a sound-artist, he usually works within a site- and time- specific
> context, utilizing DSP techniques,field recordings and generative
> procedures. His main focus is on the architectural possibilities of sound -
> how to occupy space sonically in meaningful ways - both through intuitive
> performances and scholastic installations. Phonographic techniques hold a
> distinct place in his arsenal, as a tool to interpret given space or
> found-sounds, and further to document his own work, always in respect to the
> boundaries medium-oriented reproduction imposes.
>
> Notation is just another medium for him to explore - its textural and
> timbral possibilities in particular. He is, also, into various side-projects
> or solo experiments, from time to time, when he feels he needs to do
> something different, trying to constantly re-establish his individual
> relationship with sound - and even-though this might introduce conceptualism
> sometimes, sound remains the only aesthetic criteria.
>
> His work has been released by various labels including Entr' acte (uk) and
> EchoMusic(gr), while he both performs / is being performed around the globe
> - amongst others Usa, Greece, Uk, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Austria,
> Switzerland. He is currently pursuing an MA by research in composition with
> digital media at the university of York, under the supervision of dr Tony
> Myatt, whilst he holds an offer to undertake a Phd in music in the same
> university. He also holds degrees in Harmony, Counterpoint and Management.
> He spends most of his time between York, Athens and Creta.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Marinos Koutsomichalis
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> web:
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> marinos at marinoskoutsomichalis.com
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> Greece:
> Paloumpioti 33, 11476, Athens
> mobile: 00306938954510
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From thinksamuel at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 12 09:58:02 2009
From: thinksamuel at yahoo.com (Samuel van ransbeeck)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:58:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement? What
	about the name of the computer?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2446.1244515084.6354.microsound@or8.net>
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Hello

with the class of composition we are doing a recital where we will have our pieces played. In the draft for the anouncement we did not put the name of the ensemble. For me this is not a problem , as I see it as a project of the composition class, the instrument students just do their chamber music. On the other hand, the other students (and the professor) want to include the name of the ensemble on the anouncement. However, there are two pure electronic pieces. Shouldn't we ten write also the name of the performing computer eg 'iMac core2duo'? After all, the computer is a performer as well.
What are your thoughts about this?


      

From sashimibee at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 10:13:01 2009
From: sashimibee at gmail.com (Georgina Lewis)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:13:01 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
	What about the name of the computer?
In-Reply-To: <500877.28110.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.2446.1244515084.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<500877.28110.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47b4fb710906120713p58e193cdxe7d439e618a62a0e@mail.gmail.com>

well, my immediate response is that the feelings of the computer won't be
hurt by exclusion but the case may not be so cut and dried for the humans.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Samuel van ransbeeck <thinksamuel at yahoo.com
> wrote:

>
> Hello
>
> with the class of composition we are doing a recital where we will have our
> pieces played. In the draft for the anouncement we did not put the name of
> the ensemble. For me this is not a problem , as I see it as a project of the
> composition class, the instrument students just do their chamber music. On
> the other hand, the other students (and the professor) want to include the
> name of the ensemble on the anouncement. However, there are two pure
> electronic pieces. Shouldn't we ten write also the name of the performing
> computer eg 'iMac core2duo'? After all, the computer is a performer as well.
> What are your thoughts about this?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>



-- 
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From kcpaul at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 10:32:30 2009
From: kcpaul at gmail.com (Kevin Paul)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:32:30 -0600
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
	What about the name of the computer?
In-Reply-To: <500877.28110.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<500877.28110.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Hmm.  Would one list the make and model of one's tuba in the program  
for one's tuba recital?

Kevin Paul

On Jun 12, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Samuel van ransbeeck wrote:

>
> Hello
>
> with the class of composition we are doing a recital where we will  
> have our pieces played. In the draft for the anouncement we did not  
> put the name of the ensemble. For me this is not a problem , as I  
> see it as a project of the composition class, the instrument  
> students just do their chamber music. On the other hand, the other  
> students (and the professor) want to include the name of the  
> ensemble on the anouncement. However, there are two pure electronic  
> pieces. Shouldn't we ten write also the name of the performing  
> computer eg 'iMac core2duo'? After all, the computer is a performer  
> as well.
> What are your thoughts about this?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


From thinksamuel at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 12 10:39:39 2009
From: thinksamuel at yahoo.com (Samuel van ransbeeck)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2618.1244817166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
References: <mailman.2618.1244817166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
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The computer is performing the muisc in real-time, just as a violinist plays his score. It is within that viewpoint I believe that a computer should be included in the anouncement.


      

From tjaredfriend at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 10:41:33 2009
From: tjaredfriend at gmail.com (Jared Friend)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:41:33 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
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a metronome performs in real-time as well.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Samuel van ransbeeck <thinksamuel at yahoo.com
> wrote:

>
> The computer is performing the muisc in real-time, just as a violinist
> plays his score. It is within that viewpoint I believe that a computer
> should be included in the anouncement.
>
>
>
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From tjaredfriend at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 10:41:33 2009
From: tjaredfriend at gmail.com (Jared Friend)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:41:33 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
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a metronome performs in real-time as well.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Samuel van ransbeeck <thinksamuel at yahoo.com
> wrote:

>
> The computer is performing the muisc in real-time, just as a violinist
> plays his score. It is within that viewpoint I believe that a computer
> should be included in the anouncement.
>
>
>
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From rfkorp at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 12 10:44:31 2009
From: rfkorp at yahoo.com (rfkorp at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:44:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
	What about the name of the computer?
Message-ID: <87754.8843.qm@web112619.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


People actively PERFORM.? A computer just plays back sound.? A different person would perform the same piece in a different way.? A different computer would not.

Additionally, to ignore the work that the musicians have undertaken to develop their skill and then to learn to play the pieces at hand (something a computer knows nothing about) is somewhat insulting.

Feel free to list the computer as well, for humor's sake and completeness.  But only if the living musicians are prominently advertised first.

--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Samuel van ransbeeck <thinksamuel at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Samuel van ransbeeck <thinksamuel at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement? What about the name of the computer?
> To: microsound at or8.net
> Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 9:58 AM
> 
> Hello
> 
> with the class of composition we are doing a recital where
> we will have our pieces played. In the draft for the
> anouncement we did not put the name of the ensemble. For me
> this is not a problem , as I see it as a project of the
> composition class, the instrument students just do their
> chamber music. On the other hand, the other students (and
> the professor) want to include the name of the ensemble on
> the anouncement. However, there are two pure electronic
> pieces. Shouldn't we ten write also the name of the
> performing computer eg 'iMac core2duo'? After all, the
> computer is a performer as well.
> What are your thoughts about this?
> 
> 
> ? ? ? 
> _______________________________________________
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From palace at guero.sr.unh.edu  Fri Jun 12 10:58:55 2009
From: palace at guero.sr.unh.edu (Michael Palace)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:58:55 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
 What about the name of the computer?
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References: <87754.8843.qm@web112619.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Maybe this can be a new Turing Test.  Can you tell that it is a computer 
performing or a human?  If it is a algorithm to play music that the 
computer is using, I think it advisable to state the algorithm and the 
computer code writer. 

Mike

rfkorp at yahoo.com wrote:
> People actively PERFORM.  A computer just plays back sound.  A different person would perform the same piece in a different way.  A different computer would not.
>
> Additionally, to ignore the work that the musicians have undertaken to develop their skill and then to learn to play the pieces at hand (something a computer knows nothing about) is somewhat insulting.
>
> Feel free to list the computer as well, for humor's sake and completeness.  But only if the living musicians are prominently advertised first.
>
> --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Samuel van ransbeeck <thinksamuel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Samuel van ransbeeck <thinksamuel at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement? What about the name of the computer?
>> To: microsound at or8.net
>> Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 9:58 AM
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> with the class of composition we are doing a recital where
>> we will have our pieces played. In the draft for the
>> anouncement we did not put the name of the ensemble. For me
>> this is not a problem , as I see it as a project of the
>> composition class, the instrument students just do their
>> chamber music. On the other hand, the other students (and
>> the professor) want to include the name of the ensemble on
>> the anouncement. However, there are two pure electronic
>> pieces. Shouldn't we ten write also the name of the
>> performing computer eg 'iMac core2duo'? After all, the
>> computer is a performer as well.
>> What are your thoughts about this?
>>
>>
>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>>
>>     
>
>
>
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From ndkent at optonline.net  Fri Jun 12 11:10:41 2009
From: ndkent at optonline.net (ndkent at optonline.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:10:41 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
 What about the name of the computer?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2618.1244817166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
References: <mailman.2618.1244817166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <e42aa8d03c0.4a326ff1@optonline.net>

> Hmm.  Would one list the make and model of one's tuba in the program  
> for one's tuba recital?

That would be amusing (for a moment) and correct if the tuba was onstage and there was no one playing it.

To me it's an issue of -- is it really a performance or is it simply playback (or perhaps diffusion to use an old school term)? 

You can of course be doing something with algorithmic programs, so those would surely be worth a mention.

Seriously I'd probably use something along the lines of "electronic realization by" or something along those lines for you or whomever wrote the file.nick kent

From burnett at pobox.com  Fri Jun 12 12:59:27 2009
From: burnett at pobox.com (burnett at pobox.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:59:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
 What about the name of the computer?
In-Reply-To: <500877.28110.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.2446.1244515084.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<500877.28110.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0906121253330.9474@giggles.cavesofice.org>

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Samuel van ransbeeck wrote:

> with the class of composition we are doing a recital where we will have 
> our pieces played. In the draft for the anouncement we did not put the 
> name of the ensemble. For me this is not a problem , as I see it as a 
> project of the composition class, the instrument students just do their 
> chamber music. On the other hand, the other students (and the professor) 
> want to include the name of the ensemble on the anouncement. However, 
> there are two pure electronic pieces. Shouldn't we ten write also the 
> name of the performing computer eg 'iMac core2duo'? After all, the 
> computer is a performer as well.
> What are your thoughts about this?

I would list the name of the person who did the programming or other 
setup of the electronic piece on the computer as the performer or 
composer of that piece. I would consider the hardware or software to be 
listed, if at all, as an instrument. I would only list the computer as a 
performer if it is sentient (for example "HAL 9000, original composition").

best,
Steve Burnett Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com

From randolph at soppybagrecords.net  Fri Jun 12 14:04:18 2009
From: randolph at soppybagrecords.net (Randolph Jordan)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:04:18 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
 What about the name of the computer?
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	<e42aa8d03c0.4a326ff1@optonline.net>
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Playback and diffusion are very different things and should not be  
conflated.  Diffusing a recorded piece is a real-time performance in  
its own right.  In the concerts of electroacoustic music that I have  
attended, the diffusers are given credit and applause for their work,  
essentially treated as musicians partially responsible for realizing a  
composer's work.  While there is also often applause at the end of  
recorded works presented without diffusion, I don't think the clapping  
audience is intending to acknowledge the work of the CD player  
responsible for spinning the disc, though this piece of machinery is  
certainly a key factor in helping to realize the composer's work.   
Perhaps the question of where to direct credit should be based on  
acknowledgment of creative intention, something most of us do not yet  
ascribe to inanimate machines.

Randolph.

On 12-Jun-09, at 11:10 AM, ndkent at optonline.net wrote:

> simply playback (or perhaps diffusion


From billjarboe at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 12 15:06:27 2009
From: billjarboe at earthlink.net (Bill Jarboe)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:06:27 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
	What about the name of the computer?
In-Reply-To: <48DAA246-25B2-4993-8806-9039B8C5CA92@soppybagrecords.net>
References: <mailman.2618.1244817166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<e42aa8d03c0.4a326ff1@optonline.net>
	<48DAA246-25B2-4993-8806-9039B8C5CA92@soppybagrecords.net>
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Hi,

   I've heard of applause for vinyl transcriptions. Some audio  
hardware companies , japanese especially; feature their designers ,  
engineers .

   To the original question I suggest leaving the ensemble absent  
from the announcement and crediting the performers at the event.


                                                    bill


On Jun 12, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Randolph Jordan wrote:

> Playback and diffusion are very different things and should not be
> conflated.  Diffusing a recorded piece is a real-time performance in
> its own right.  In the concerts of electroacoustic music that I have
> attended, the diffusers are given credit and applause for their work,
> essentially treated as musicians partially responsible for realizing a
> composer's work.  While there is also often applause at the end of
> recorded works presented without diffusion, I don't think the clapping
> audience is intending to acknowledge the work of the CD player
> responsible for spinning the disc, though this piece of machinery is
> certainly a key factor in helping to realize the composer's work.
> Perhaps the question of where to direct credit should be based on
> acknowledgment of creative intention, something most of us do not yet
> ascribe to inanimate machines.
>
> Randolph.
>
> On 12-Jun-09, at 11:10 AM, ndkent at optonline.net wrote:
>
>> simply playback (or perhaps diffusion
>
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From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Fri Jun 12 15:19:07 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:19:07 -0700
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
Message-ID: <4A32AA2B.80204@anechoicmedia.com>

>
> Playback and diffusion are very different things and should not be  
> conflated.  Diffusing a recorded piece is a real-time performance in  
> its own right.  In the concerts of electroacoustic music that I have  
> attended, the diffusers are given credit and applause for their work,  
> essentially treated as musicians partially responsible for realizing a  
> composer's work.
sorry for hijacking your thread but I really liked your description of 
diffusion

what amazes me is how many people in the various arts (dance, film, etc) 
have no knowledge of the 'art of diffusion'...

I recently ran into a situation where the person I was collaborating 
with (I use the term 'collaborating' very loosely here) had no clue as 
to what I was talking about when I explained the difference between 
composing an electro-acoustic work and then diffusing it in public and 
how they were separate art-forms that intersected but were still 
distinct from one another

it was very frustrating to work with someone who thinks computer music 
is composed with a push of a few buttons and easily changed/modified 
during a performance...

there ought to be a law...





From milan.lists at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 15:28:01 2009
From: milan.lists at gmail.com (Milan Davidovic)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:28:01 -0400
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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References: <4A32AA2B.80204@anechoicmedia.com>
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Kim Cascone<kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
> what amazes me is how many people in the various arts (dance, film, etc)
> have no knowledge of the 'art of diffusion'...

Where would you send them to learn about it?

-- 
Milan Davidovic
http://altmilan.blogspot.com

From milan.lists at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 15:28:01 2009
From: milan.lists at gmail.com (Milan Davidovic)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:28:01 -0400
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
In-Reply-To: <4A32AA2B.80204@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A32AA2B.80204@anechoicmedia.com>
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Kim Cascone<kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
> what amazes me is how many people in the various arts (dance, film, etc)
> have no knowledge of the 'art of diffusion'...

Where would you send them to learn about it?

-- 
Milan Davidovic
http://altmilan.blogspot.com

From craque at craque.net  Fri Jun 12 15:30:28 2009
From: craque at craque.net (CraqueMat)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:30:28 -0700
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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Message-ID: <4A32ACD4.7030102@craque.net>

In my opinion, the discipline of improvisation.

Milan Davidovic wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Kim Cascone<kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
>> what amazes me is how many people in the various arts (dance, film, etc)
>> have no knowledge of the 'art of diffusion'...
> 
> Where would you send them to learn about it?
> 

From traktorman at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 15:45:02 2009
From: traktorman at gmail.com (tkrakowiak)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:45:02 -0400
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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diffusion, osmosis, definately F.Lopez

2009/6/12 CraqueMat <craque at craque.net>

> In my opinion, the discipline of improvisation.
>
> Milan Davidovic wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Kim Cascone<kim at anechoicmedia.com>
> wrote:
> >> what amazes me is how many people in the various arts (dance, film, etc)
> >> have no knowledge of the 'art of diffusion'...
> >
> > Where would you send them to learn about it?
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From time4cookies at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 12 15:54:44 2009
From: time4cookies at hotmail.com (greg g)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:54:44 +0000
Subject: [microsound] Should musicians names appear on the anouncement?
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let's not forget to give performance credit to the manufacturers that built the microchips, the inventors of microchips, mother nature for the heavy elements required for computer assembly, the farmers who produced the food for the engineers and manufacturers to eat, their parents who brought them into being, the sun for making life possible, the big bang for making the sun possible, etc.  this question can't be serious.  of course a computer shouldn't be credited outside of pure philip k dick-style humour, as far as i know it's standard procedure to credit humans who program and/or perform the composition and draw the line there, the rest (computer and program included, big bang, et al) are just means to that end, otherwise this is some kind of horrible dystopian joke.  credit the speaker cables, amplifier, the local power station for performance while you're at it, too.  artistic credit is for humans only, even if mechanical reality goes a long way to shaping and bringing about what that art might be.  if you lean a guitar against an amplifier and walk away for the entire feedback performance, you wouldn't think of crediting "gibson guitar and fender reverb deluxe amp" for the performance in any seriousness, you'd credit lou reed or dylan carlson, or whoever leaned the guitar against the amp or instructed such an action in a composition, even if they aren't on stage for the entire event.  same goes for computers alone onstage without humans.

 

 

> Maybe this can be a new Turing Test. Can you tell that it is a computer 
> performing or a human? If it is a algorithm to play music that the 
> computer is using, I think it advisable to state the algorithm and the 
> computer code writer. 
> 
> Mike


 

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From randolph at soppybagrecords.net  Fri Jun 12 15:55:47 2009
From: randolph at soppybagrecords.net (Randolph Jordan)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:55:47 -0400
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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Here are a couple of good places to start reading about the art of  
diffusion:

Moore, Adrian, Dave Moore, James Mooney.  ?M2 Diffusion: The Live  
Diffusion of Sound in Space.?  Proceedings of the 2004 International  
Conference on Music and Computers.  Miami: USA, 2004: 317-320.

http://sheffield.academia.edu/AdrianMoore/Papers/91459/M2-Diffusion-%E2%80%93-The-live-diffusion-of-sound-in-space

Moore, Moore, and Mooney give a good concise definition of diffusion,  
a brief technical history of the art, and the results of some of their  
research into new diffusion technologies.

*

Truax, Barry.  "Composition & Diffusion: Space in Sound in Space."   
Organised Sound, 3(2):141-146.

http://www.sfu.ca/~truax/bourges.html

Truax gives a more technical description of his own research into the  
art of diffusion, but I like the way he distinguishes between  
composition and diffusion as "shaping the space inside the sound" vs  
"shaping the sound inside the space."

*

Enjoy!

Randolph.












On 12-Jun-09, at 3:30 PM, CraqueMat wrote:

> Milan Davidovic wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Kim Cascone<kim at anechoicmedia.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> what amazes me is how many people in the various arts (dance,  
>>> film, etc)
>>> have no knowledge of the 'art of diffusion'...
>>
>> Where would you send them to learn about it?
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:06:11 -0400
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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tkrakowiak a ?crit :
>
> diffusion, osmosis, definately F.Lopez
>
> 2009/6/12 CraqueMat <craque at craque.net <mailto:craque at craque.net>>
>
>     In my opinion, the discipline of improvisation.
>
>     Milan Davidovic wrote:
>     > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Kim
>     Cascone<kim at anechoicmedia.com <mailto:kim at anechoicmedia.com>> wrote:
>     >> what amazes me is how many people in the various arts (dance,
>     film, etc)
>     >> have no knowledge of the 'art of diffusion'...
>     >
>     > Where would you send them to learn about it?
>     >
>     _______________________________________________
>

to me ?!?!?!

This may sound pretentious, but learning from other disciplines -despite 
the topic of this talk- and from some performers which has have 
developped difusion as an art. i do put a lot of emphasis on the 
condition of diffusion, the context vs the artist contents. Thinking 
about it is the heart of audio curating.

Eric


From mis at artengine.ca  Fri Jun 12 16:39:42 2009
From: mis at artengine.ca (Michal Seta)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:39:42 -0400
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The unfortunate fact of learning diffusion is that you need a number
of speakers (and really, the most fun is if you have over 20) and a
large enough space to actually appreciate what you do.  There are a
number of universities that organize acousmatic concerts on a regular
basis and i think a good start is to go to those concerts and first
get a feel of how it is done by someone experienced.  And then, look
out for workshops or, if there is an institution that organizes such
concerts, ask to practice, or something.  It would be best to hear
different people performing the same pieces, that's where you get the
idea.  After all the music does not change it is only the spacial
placement of various musical events that actually changes the whole
experience.

I was fortunate enough to attend some diffusion workshops in the mid-
to late 90s in Montr?al when R?seaux was organizing the concert series
called Rien ? voir (nothing to see).  During the series they had
invited (and local) electroacoustic composers conduct workshops in
diffusion.  A masterclass of sorts.  It was great not only as
performance practice but also helped to understand the pieces you
worked on (not to mention actually "learn" them).  And it is one thing
diffusing your own music and another diffusing someone else's.

Also see:
cec.concordia.ca/econtact/Diffusion/pracdiff.htm
The website is currently down (since Thursday) but it should come back
sooner or later (perhaps you can google for "econtact diffusion" and
read the cached article or wayback machine may have cached it, too).

Diffusion is great fun.

./MiS

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Eric Mattson<oral at videotron.ca> wrote:
> tkrakowiak a ?crit :
>>
>> diffusion, osmosis, definately F.Lopez
>>
>> 2009/6/12 CraqueMat <craque at craque.net <mailto:craque at craque.net>>
>>
>> ? ? In my opinion, the discipline of improvisation.
>>
>> ? ? Milan Davidovic wrote:
>> ? ? > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Kim
>> ? ? Cascone<kim at anechoicmedia.com <mailto:kim at anechoicmedia.com>> wrote:
>> ? ? >> what amazes me is how many people in the various arts (dance,
>> ? ? film, etc)
>> ? ? >> have no knowledge of the 'art of diffusion'...
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Where would you send them to learn about it?
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? _______________________________________________
>>
>
> to me ?!?!?!
>
> This may sound pretentious, but learning from other disciplines -despite
> the topic of this talk- and from some performers which has have
> developped difusion as an art. i do put a lot of emphasis on the
> condition of diffusion, the context vs the artist contents. Thinking
> about it is the heart of audio curating.
>
> Eric
>
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From time4cookies at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 12 16:46:59 2009
From: time4cookies at hotmail.com (greg g)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:46:59 +0000
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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> it was very frustrating to work with someone who thinks computer music 
> is composed with a push of a few buttons and easily changed/modified 
> during a performance...



i think it's necessary that a good portion of the electronic music audience believes on some level that what they're hearing is "played" live to support the basic notions of what constitutes 'performance' that have existed prior to electronic music, when in reality that's hardly the case.  the performer usually tries to uphold this facade, and the shared suspension of disbelief is what most live laptop music seems to be based on, especially of the rhythmic type.  that's not to say that many audience members and performers don't realize they only have a limited role, and that there are other ways of enjoying an event than simply convincing everyone that a performance is in fact occurring, but that given the option, they (audience and performer) either downplay this aspect or ignore it as much as possible and focus on something else, either the sounds themselves, dancing, or watching the performer play a solo on one keyboard on top of what is clearly a pre-programmed backing track.  if the effect seems to be of no significance, consider how a dance show typically on a laptop or dj setup would go off if the performer just put on a cd in a discman and walked off stage.  there needs to be these performance signifiers such as turntables or a laptop and midi controllers to convince the audience, but in reality, the audience can't be empirically certain that that's really where the sound is coming from or exactly how much is pre-programmed and how much is real-time.

 

however, if you watch an electronic music performance with analog synthesizers or microphones, pedals, no preset memory patches, it's more or less all live, so i think this issue only really comes into play when one introduces tapes, cds, samplers, and laptops into the proceedings, a decision that should be taken seriously as a real paradigm shift regarding performance expectations.  on the other end of the spectrum, diffusion seems to be something to be avoided, only actual academic musicians and chin-scratchers really embrace this concept where the sound's accuracy to the composition is so critical that they go so far as to eliminate the performance entirely.  the rest out there seems to be an extention of the 'rock' performance world, and i think there's nothing wrong with that per se, but the problem is that in actuality, most of the 'dance/rock' oriented electronic music is just as preset as the academic stuff but with the pretense that it isn't, it still has the vestigial gestures and trappings of rock to provide a focal point and create the illusion of performance, because there's really no other option.  personally, i don't see that there is much merit in either approach, i have to create all the sounds in real time without presets or prerecorded sounds or i have trouble considering it a real performance, and i find that my favorite performances are ones in which i can be entirely certain as to what degree the sound is performed and preset (if at all).  sure, diffusion is a good idea in theory assuming everyone adjusts performance expectations accordingly, but i have trouble attending an event with all the trappings of a performance just to hear a prerecorded piece.  always a disappointment on some level, the music is never good enough to justify sacrificing the potential for a performance.  i'd rather just listen to it at home, even if it's poeme electronique and all the greats, as the case was with the san francisco tape music festival this past year.  i'd have preferred a real performance even if the actual sound was less organized or had no historical importance.  there simply isn't anything that can compare with a good real-time performance in my book, and these can be hard to come by in the electronic music world because they're seriously underrated in favor of controllable, predictable, "good"-sounding digital music, most of which has no performance justification at all.  better to sacrifice quality and compositional organization in favor of unpredictibility, viscerality, and audience participation.  actually, quality is pretty relative since most of the straight laptop performance stuff winds up sounding bad on top of being boring anyway.

 

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From djdualcore at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 16:54:25 2009
From: djdualcore at gmail.com (Neil Clopton)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:54:25 -0500
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:06 PM, <microsound-request at or8.net> wrote:

> bout what that art might be.  if you lean a guitar against an amplifier and
> walk away for the entire feedback performance, you wouldn't think of
> crediting "gibson guitar and fender reverb deluxe amp" for the performance
> in any seriousness,


I wouldn't be so sweeping.  Yes, it sounds silly at first blush but it
depends on the specifics of the performance and the intentions of the person
setting up the conditions for feedback, doesn't it?

Without going into the boring bits that distinguish guitar pickups let me
say that they are not all alike and will feedback differently.  If I were
taking advantage of such differences to get a specific quality of feedback
the "identity" of the guitar becomes relevant.

Likewise, if the feedback performance is, in my mind, ABOUT the relationship
between human and instrument (implied by the absence of the human) I have
another reason to credit the inanimate objects I used.

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From time4cookies at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 12 17:01:10 2009
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whoops, i see my idea of what diffusion was is inaccurate.  i think i'm talking more about installations or performances where the computer is alone onstage being the academic approach.  i see diffusion is about spatial organization of prerecorded sounds in real time?  that's performance to a degree, but in any case, the underlying question is still there about how far and in what regard do performers and composers go to convince audience members that what they are hearing is in real time, i.e., reflecting their immediate needs as an audience to be played to rather than played at.

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From randolph at soppybagrecords.net  Fri Jun 12 17:21:31 2009
From: randolph at soppybagrecords.net (Randolph Jordan)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:21:31 -0400
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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One of the key reasons why concerts of pre-recorded music are  
presented in public is so that the music can be heard from a better  
source, on a better sound system, and in a better space than most of  
us have access to at home.  Though created in the studio, much  
electroacoustic music is designed for playback in conditions that do  
not exist in most homes, just as movies are created for the cinema  
rather than the home theatre.  While it is certainly possible to enjoy  
a movie at home, a DVD on even the finest home theatre set-up simply  
cannot even come close to a print projected in a fine cinema house.   
The same is true of music.  Live presentation of recorded works  
affords the public the opportunity to hear pieces presented in formats  
that are not available for the home market; the playback system in a  
good venue is better than what most of us have available at home; and  
a proper concert hall has much better acoustics than even the best  
home listening rooms.  So if you take questions of performance out of  
the equation, there can still be great benefit to hearing recorded  
works presented in a public venue.

Importantly, this is precisely where the work of the diffuser comes  
in.  Regardless of whether or not we respect the diffusion as a  
performance, it is the diffusion that allows for a studio piece  
recorded on a fixed-medium to become a site-specific event.  The  
diffuser translates the original mix into the specific playback system  
and architecture of the concert venue, and allows for a unique  
experience of a recorded work that cannot be replicated in any other  
context.  Sure, there are many crappy venues with poor playback  
systems that won't do justice to the compositional intention behind a  
good piece.  And there are many inadequate diffusers out there too.   
But this is true of live music as well, and I have experienced many  
venues and sound systems poor enough to negate the value of hearing  
the musicians live.  A good many of the live musician concerts I've  
been to have made me wish I could have a recording of that performance  
to listen to at home (which, happily, is often only a couple mouse  
clicks away nowadays).  But given the right conditions, the  
presentation of a recorded work in a public venue with the help of  
good diffusion can, in my opinion, easily equal the uniqueness of any  
event involving live musicians performing music on a stage.  This is  
something you just can't get at home.

Randolph.

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From williamsoderberg at comcast.net  Fri Jun 12 17:40:24 2009
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:40:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art form
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:54:20 +0000
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> Without going into the boring bits that distinguish guitar pickups let me
> say that they are not all alike and will feedback differently. If I were
> taking advantage of such differences to get a specific quality of feedback
> the "identity" of the guitar becomes relevant.

 

i'm not saying performers and composers shouldn't go ahead and make distinctions about what instruments with specific identities and properties are required for the piece, i'm talking about whether they should be credited on par with the composers and performers themselves as intelligent lifeforms choosing consciously to make art.  you can say to an audience or a performer, the composer requires this particular computer or amplifier for the job, sure, and this computer or amplifier may even be the only unaccompanied aspect of the stage performance, but that's a long way from _crediting_ the performance or the idea of a performance to a particular computer or amplifier.  you don't list it as the beach boys -  "good vibrations" (wilson, love, gibson guitars, 16 channel mixing desk, theremin, a bunch of session musicians, upright bass, etc etc), you list it as the beach boys - "good vibrations" (wilson, love), the collective performers being the beach boys, the composers being wilson and love and instruments not having anything to do with this procedure.  the equipment and specifics are tools and means to the end, and effect the end to be sure but aren't the performers and aren't the composers, they're specific tools and will be nothing more until they develop intelligent artistic decision-making capabilities of their own.  obviously with artifical intelligence and computers, they are doing some kind of thinking, but even with something like brian eno's generative stuff, it always comes back to the human who instructed the machine to act according to a certain set of instructions.  when computers or non-human lifeforms begin complex thinking for themselves and creating art intrinsically without any human input, hal 9000, alpha 60, i think they can then be credited either has composers or as performers of other people's (or thing's) pieces.  but fortunately hal 9000 doesn't exist yet, and when it does exist it probably won't give a hoot about making music unless it's useful to enslave humanity or something.  how about dave soldier's thai elephant orchestra?  that's a more interesting case, i think elephants may arguably have much stronger artistic decision-making capabilities than computers, although obviously there's a lot of human input and conditioning at hand in both cases.  in any case, it's fair to say that neither of these species or things would be doing anything remotely artistic if not for humans, so i don't think they're really subject to be credited for even being performers, i still think they're just tools or instruments for human composers or performers at best, albeit 'generative' and unpredictable in many regards.

 

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From damian.ml at frey.co.nz  Sat Jun 13 09:33:45 2009
From: damian.ml at frey.co.nz (Damian Stewart)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:33:45 +1200
Subject: [microsound] diffusion as an art-form
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 > Randolph Jordan wrote:
 >> greg g wrote:
>> i'd rather just listen to it at home
> One of the key reasons why concerts of pre-recorded music are presented 
> in public is so that the music can be heard from a better source, on a 
> better sound system, and in a better space than most of us have access 
> to at home. 

this makes the interesting assumption that better sound system == better 
music.

i'm not sure about that. one of my issues with the academic 'system' (i 
speak from my point of reference, which is the Birmingham school of 
compositional ideas to which my university subscribed) is a requirement 
that the gear be top-notch, that all the DACs/ADCs be totally noise free, 
that the monitor speakers in the studio be $50k beasts, all in the pursuit 
of making the technology as transparent (== colourless) as possible, 
therefore allowing the music its fullest expression.

i think this is bollocks, and symptomatic of an important disconnect 
between laptop music and non-laptop music (laptop improv/noise, where the 
laptop is treated like a fancy guitar pedal in a more traditional feedback 
loop, is another matter) -- namely, laptop music is all about the 'sound', 
which really doesn't matter so much in most other forms of music. the 
people who do well playing laptop ( 
http://evolvingmusic.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/girl-talk.jpg ) 
acknowledge the social aspect...

-- 
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From randolph at soppybagrecords.net  Sat Jun 13 13:05:50 2009
From: randolph at soppybagrecords.net (Randolph Jordan)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:05:50 -0400
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On 13-Jun-09, at 9:33 AM, Damian Stewart wrote:

> this makes the interesting assumption that better sound system ==  
> better
> music.

I have made no such assumption.  My previous post responded to Greg's  
assertion that he'd "rather just listen to it at home," a statement  
that implies the music is good enough to WANT to hear it, but that the  
home listening experience is somehow better than public presentation.   
Given the assumption that a piece of music is good, I offered a set of  
reasons why hearing this piece in a concert venue might be preferable  
to a home listening situation.

True, a good listening environment cannot make up for bad music  
(though on occasion I have been emotionally moved by the quality of  
sound at a good venue regardless of my feelings about the music  
itself).  And yes, the sound quality of the playback system really  
doesn't matter for certain kinds of music.  For example, a piece of  
pop music designed for mp3 distribution won't benefit much from a  
sound system with excellent frequency response above 16K because these  
frequencies simply aren't there in the original piece.  On the other  
hand, to play a piece of music with lots of high frequency detail on a  
system with poor response in this area will actually take away from  
the composition itself.

In the end the question of playback equipment/venue comes down to  
respecting compositional intent.  You'd be hard pressed to convince a  
composer of symphonic music that the playback sound quality of their  
composition isn't important.  If the relationship between all the  
different parts of a symphony's violin section are an important part  
of compositional form, a playback system that can't properly  
differentiate between these various parts actually REMOVES part of the  
composition, thus affecting its form.  This is why symphonic music is  
best heard live in a concert hall.  A proper live concert hall  
situation doesn't ensure that the composition will be good, but it  
does give the audience their best chance of hearing the piece as it  
was intended to be heard.  The same can be true for a piece of  
computer music designed for playback on equipment that doesn't exist  
in most home listening situations.  The ideal concert situation allows  
the piece to be presented according the composer's intentions.

If the music is bad, then it's bad.  But how can you properly judge  
the music if you haven't heard ALL of it?  Hearing all of a piece of  
music is what a proper concert environment is supposed to allow, in  
turn allowing the audience to judge the music effectively.  I agree  
wholeheartedly with Damian's point is about the perils of emphasizing  
equipment over compositional skill; I'll take the latter over the  
former any day.  But when compositional skill is intertwined with  
particular presentation requirements, the relationship between the two  
needs to be respected.  This respect is the benefit that a good  
concert presentation has over the vast majority of home listening  
situations.

Randolph.

From damian.ml at frey.co.nz  Sun Jun 14 18:26:53 2009
From: damian.ml at frey.co.nz (Damian Stewart)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:26:53 +1200
Subject: [microsound] terminator salvation sound design
Message-ID: <4A35792D.3050103@frey.co.nz>

hey folks,

if you haven't seen it already, the sound design for the machines in 
Terminator Salvation is excellent. lots of gritty granular noises, lovely 
stuff.

(the film itself isn't bad either, it has explosions and robots, and 
sometimes exploding robots.)
-- 
damian stewart | skype: damiansnz | damian at frey.co.nz
frey | live art with machines | http://www.frey.co.nz he

From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Mon Jun 15 13:35:23 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:35:23 -0700
Subject: [microsound] .microsound 10th anniversary
Message-ID: <4A36865B.1010901@anechoicmedia.com>

This October marks the 10th year anniversary of the .microsound list and 
I am scouting around for ideas to help celebrate this momentous occasion.
I've posted this on the Facebook .microsound page and have received some 
response to it.

Here are some blue-sky ideas to get the creative juices flowing:

- live events held in various locations - possibly simultaneous and linked
    - stream live audio to an Icecast server
    - interactive laptop collaborations between locations
- .microsound web page containing pieces by list members
- desktop wallpapers
- T-shirt designs as .pdfs - freely down-loadable and iron-on
- video or animation projects reflecting the .microsound aesthetic 
posted to a web page
- writings/essays on microsound
- using the microsound archives as a source for creating work: text to 
sound, links, data-mining, etc
- web radio event
- circuit bending kits packaged in CD jewel cases
- patches, software apps, java web based sound apps

OK that's all I can think of for now but maybe I'll start a wiki page 
and we can add to this and select the most feasible projects?

oh and yes I know I posted a promotional announcement to the main list
but hey, this is special and I wanted to make sure *everyone* saw it
ciao for now
KIM



From ejschoster at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 19:25:28 2009
From: ejschoster at gmail.com (erik schoster)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:25:28 -0400
Subject: [microsound] [microsound-announce] .microsound 10th anniversary
In-Reply-To: <4A36865B.1010901@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A36865B.1010901@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <3e29bbbb0906151625g20a6101al38227b5b5f57d12c@mail.gmail.com>

Wow!  Happy 10 years to everyone.  :-)

If anyone in NYC would be interested, I'd love to talk about having a
weekend of talks and performances to mark the occasion perhaps?  I help run
a little art space in Bushwick and we'd love to donate the space (with baby
grand piano, PA system and the trimmings...) for a weekend to celebrate.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:

> This October marks the 10th year anniversary of the .microsound list and
> I am scouting around for ideas to help celebrate this momentous occasion.
> I've posted this on the Facebook .microsound page and have received some
> response to it.
>
> Here are some blue-sky ideas to get the creative juices flowing:
>
> - live events held in various locations - possibly simultaneous and linked
>    - stream live audio to an Icecast server
>    - interactive laptop collaborations between locations
> - .microsound web page containing pieces by list members
> - desktop wallpapers
> - T-shirt designs as .pdfs - freely down-loadable and iron-on
> - video or animation projects reflecting the .microsound aesthetic
> posted to a web page
> - writings/essays on microsound
> - using the microsound archives as a source for creating work: text to
> sound, links, data-mining, etc
> - web radio event
> - circuit bending kits packaged in CD jewel cases
> - patches, software apps, java web based sound apps
>
> OK that's all I can think of for now but maybe I'll start a wiki page
> and we can add to this and select the most feasible projects?
>
> oh and yes I know I posted a promotional announcement to the main list
> but hey, this is special and I wanted to make sure *everyone* saw it
> ciao for now
> KIM
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound-announce mailing list
> microsound-announce at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce
>



-- 
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community: www.luvsound.org / www.lovelymedia.org
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From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Mon Jun 15 20:01:40 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:01:40 -0700
Subject: [microsound] wiki page for 10 yr anniversary
Message-ID: <4A36E0E4.5000701@anechoicmedia.com>

please add ideas and suggestions here:
http://anechoicmedia.wikidot.com/microsound-anniversary

From rlainhart at otownmedia.com  Mon Jun 15 20:27:48 2009
From: rlainhart at otownmedia.com (Richard Lainhart)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:27:48 -0400
Subject: [microsound] [microsound-announce] .microsound 10th anniversary
In-Reply-To: <3e29bbbb0906151625g20a6101al38227b5b5f57d12c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A36865B.1010901@anechoicmedia.com>
	<3e29bbbb0906151625g20a6101al38227b5b5f57d12c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <082CD6F4-2AF0-4BFF-B15A-312BA739E4D9@otownmedia.com>

I'm in the NYC area, and would enjoy taking part in this, in any  
capacity.


> Wow!  Happy 10 years to everyone.  :-)
>
> If anyone in NYC would be interested, I'd love to talk about having  
> a weekend of talks and performances to mark the occasion perhaps?  I  
> help run a little art space in Bushwick and we'd love to donate the  
> space (with baby grand piano, PA system and the trimmings...) for a  
> weekend to celebrate.




Richard Lainhart
http://www.otownmedia.com
http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart
http://www.vimeo.com/rlainhart
http://www.youtube.com/rlainhart
http://richardlainhart.bandcamp.com/




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From michael.north at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 15 20:27:56 2009
From: michael.north at sympatico.ca (Michael North)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:27:56 -0400
Subject: [microsound] .microsound 10th anniversary
In-Reply-To: <4A36865B.1010901@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A36865B.1010901@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <390A4E7E-AED9-443E-A03D-68B83A36DF55@sympatico.ca>

just a thought/or more a question....as this is 10 years of this  
list....i've been following it for a few years...is this|are we...a  
movement of sorts, or just a bunch of sound people who like|identify  
with|practise microsound...do most of us use microsound techniques in  
our work....i didn't participate in the discussions around the Curtis  
Roads book, maybe these questions were answered there????... i use  
various techniques, a lot of granulation, but i'm not sure if i would  
identify my work as 'microsound'....anyway just a question/thought/ 
whatever....
happy 10th
On 15-Jun-09, at 1:35 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:

> This October marks the 10th year anniversary of the .microsound  
> list and
> I am scouting around for ideas to help celebrate this momentous  
> occasion.
> I've posted this on the Facebook .microsound page and have received  
> some
> response to it.
>
> Here are some blue-sky ideas to get the creative juices flowing:
>
> - live events held in various locations - possibly simultaneous and  
> linked
>     - stream live audio to an Icecast server
>     - interactive laptop collaborations between locations
> - .microsound web page containing pieces by list members
> - desktop wallpapers
> - T-shirt designs as .pdfs - freely down-loadable and iron-on
> - video or animation projects reflecting the .microsound aesthetic
> posted to a web page
> - writings/essays on microsound
> - using the microsound archives as a source for creating work: text to
> sound, links, data-mining, etc
> - web radio event
> - circuit bending kits packaged in CD jewel cases
> - patches, software apps, java web based sound apps
>
> OK that's all I can think of for now but maybe I'll start a wiki page
> and we can add to this and select the most feasible projects?
>
> oh and yes I know I posted a promotional announcement to the main list
> but hey, this is special and I wanted to make sure *everyone* saw it
> ciao for now
> KIM
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>

michael north
http://tiny.cc/D116v
http://tiny.cc/wIMHz
http://www.pertin-nce.com
michael.north at sympatico.ca
"Enough with politics! On with the practical tasks of everyday life!?




From johnhudak at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 09:29:17 2009
From: johnhudak at gmail.com (John Hudak)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:29:17 -0400
Subject: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
Message-ID: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>

hello folks!  i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for distant
net performances in the past, but since it has been awhile, i was wondering
if anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming audio broadcast via the
net.  i also want the possibility of video, so skype may be my only option.
 if anyone has any experience with the reliability of skype, that would be
helpful.  any other method suggestions would be highly appreciated.
best,
john

-- 
http://www.johnhudak.net
http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
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From kcpaul at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 09:34:10 2009
From: kcpaul at gmail.com (Kevin Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:34:10 -0600
Subject: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
In-Reply-To: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E9A7EE40-479F-40A6-AEFA-3958D00420D1@gmail.com>

I have successfully used Skype in performances.  I did two things  to  
minimize potential for dropouts: ethernet instead of WLAN and audio  
only.

Kevin Paul


On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:29 AM, John Hudak wrote:

> hello folks!  i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for  
> distant net performances in the past, but since it has been awhile,  
> i was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming  
> audio broadcast via the net.  i also want the possibility of video,  
> so skype may be my only option.  if anyone has any experience with  
> the reliability of skype, that would be helpful.  any other method  
> suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>
> best,
> john
>
> -- 
> http://www.johnhudak.net
> http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


From kcpaul at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 09:38:47 2009
From: kcpaul at gmail.com (Kevin Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:38:47 -0600
Subject: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
In-Reply-To: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24CD29BB-0F5B-4CFC-AF39-E4A4A6D7C2EF@gmail.com>

To follow up,  I have also used Skype in conference call mode to get  
two simultaneous audio streams.   I had hoped to route the streams to  
different channels but Skype can't do this.  The biggest problem was  
that my collaborators were performing at 4am and 5am respectively  
local time  ;)

Kevin Paul

On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:29 AM, John Hudak wrote:

> hello folks!  i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for  
> distant net performances in the past, but since it has been awhile,  
> i was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming  
> audio broadcast via the net.  i also want the possibility of video,  
> so skype may be my only option.  if anyone has any experience with  
> the reliability of skype, that would be helpful.  any other method  
> suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>
> best,
> john
>
> -- 
> http://www.johnhudak.net
> http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


From mis at artengine.ca  Thu Jun 18 09:46:12 2009
From: mis at artengine.ca (Michal Seta)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:46:12 -0400
Subject: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
In-Reply-To: <E9A7EE40-479F-40A6-AEFA-3958D00420D1@gmail.com>
References: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>
	<E9A7EE40-479F-40A6-AEFA-3958D00420D1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eee389550906180646p54c3b550w4a9023d0d7b659eb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

https://svn.sat.qc.ca/trac/miville/wiki/IntroducingTelesceno

AFAIK it is a linux solution but perhaps the different components
needed to run this thing can be set up on MacOSX.  I will probably be
trying to get this thing running on a Mac over the summer so I might
feel inclined to sharing whatever experience I may have had but not
before September 2009.

HTH

./MiS

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Kevin Paul<kcpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have successfully used Skype in performances. ?I did two things ?to
> minimize potential for dropouts: ethernet instead of WLAN and audio
> only.
>
> Kevin Paul
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:29 AM, John Hudak wrote:
>
>> hello folks! ?i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for
>> distant net performances in the past, but since it has been awhile,
>> i was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming
>> audio broadcast via the net. ?i also want the possibility of video,
>> so skype may be my only option. ?if anyone has any experience with
>> the reliability of skype, that would be helpful. ?any other method
>> suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>>
>> best,
>> john
>>
>> --
>> http://www.johnhudak.net
>> http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>



-- 
./MiS
514-344-0726
http://www.creazone.ca

From johnhudak at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 09:47:30 2009
From: johnhudak at gmail.com (John Hudak)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:47:30 -0400
Subject: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
In-Reply-To: <24CD29BB-0F5B-4CFC-AF39-E4A4A6D7C2EF@gmail.com>
References: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>
	<24CD29BB-0F5B-4CFC-AF39-E4A4A6D7C2EF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db48f3a70906180647w15bf5818n53364b409cd20319@mail.gmail.com>

thanks for the reply, kevin!
at home i have a fiber optic connection, but i'm not sure what the venue has
(will be streaming to thailand in this particular case).  the time
difference also may be a nuisance...but a small one.

best,
john

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Kevin Paul <kcpaul at gmail.com> wrote:

> To follow up,  I have also used Skype in conference call mode to get
> two simultaneous audio streams.   I had hoped to route the streams to
> different channels but Skype can't do this.  The biggest problem was
> that my collaborators were performing at 4am and 5am respectively
> local time  ;)
>
> Kevin Paul
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:29 AM, John Hudak wrote:
>
> > hello folks!  i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for
> > distant net performances in the past, but since it has been awhile,
> > i was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming
> > audio broadcast via the net.  i also want the possibility of video,
> > so skype may be my only option.  if anyone has any experience with
> > the reliability of skype, that would be helpful.  any other method
> > suggestions would be highly appreciated.
> >
> > best,
> > john
> >
> > --
> > http://www.johnhudak.net
> > http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>



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http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
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From traktorman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 14:39:59 2009
From: traktorman at gmail.com (tkrakowiak)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:39:59 -0400
Subject: [microsound] .microsound 10th anniversary Toronto
Message-ID: <aa0f71fc0906181139s2c224104k5355e8137fed8e2e@mail.gmail.com>

anyone from TO interested in making it happen?
cheers
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From trommer at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 18 15:27:29 2009
From: trommer at sympatico.ca (michael trommer)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:27:29 -0400
Subject: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
In-Reply-To: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6201D59D4291FE736AC6C1CF3D0@phx.gbl>

Hi...i did an online performance with someone from shenzhen china (I?m in
toronto) using tube:

http://www.t-u-b-e.de/

Audio-only, though.



On 6/18/09 9:29 AM, "John Hudak" <johnhudak at gmail.com> wrote:

> hello folks! ?i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for distant net
> performances in the past, but since it has been awhile, i was wondering if
> anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming audio broadcast via the net. ?i
> also want the possibility of video, so skype may be my only option. ?if anyone
> has any experience with the reliability of skype, that would be helpful. ?any
> other method suggestions would be highly appreciated.
> 
> best,
> john?


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From listekutusu at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 17:34:44 2009
From: listekutusu at gmail.com (Korhan Erel)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:34:44 +0300
Subject: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
In-Reply-To: <24CD29BB-0F5B-4CFC-AF39-E4A4A6D7C2EF@gmail.com>
References: <db48f3a70906180629k4db9f742r6686d27010179cf6@mail.gmail.com>
	<24CD29BB-0F5B-4CFC-AF39-E4A4A6D7C2EF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0D8308D9-25FD-45AB-BFEC-9871EA91A7EA@gmail.com>

One of the performers was myself, from Istanbul. I have used Skype to  
play in Berlin, Madrid and finally in New Mexico, without any problems.

On 18.Haz.2009, at 16:38, Kevin Paul wrote:

To follow up,  I have also used Skype in conference call mode to get
two simultaneous audio streams.   I had hoped to route the streams to
different channels but Skype can't do this.  The biggest problem was
that my collaborators were performing at 4am and 5am respectively
local time  ;)

Kevin Paul

On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:29 AM, John Hudak wrote:

> hello folks!  i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for
> distant net performances in the past, but since it has been awhile,
> i was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming
> audio broadcast via the net.  i also want the possibility of video,
> so skype may be my only option.  if anyone has any experience with
> the reliability of skype, that would be helpful.  any other method
> suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>
> best,
> john
>
> -- 
> http://www.johnhudak.net
> http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

_______________________________________________
microsound mailing list
microsound at microsound.org
http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Fri Jun 19 12:49:17 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:49:17 -0700
Subject: [microsound] 10 year anniversary
Message-ID: <4A3BC18D.1080902@anechoicmedia.com>

I have been getting a lot of response and interest from people all over 
the world about setting up some sort of event for the .microsound 10 
year anniversary.

I am very pleased to see the community respond to this in such a 
positive manner.

As with all things microsound there is no need to get my approval for 
hosting an event any more than someone needs my approval to start a 
microsound community project.

If you have an idea please post it to the WIKI page I set up

or ask me to start a new page for your particular project/location.

http://anechoicmedia.wikidot.com/microsound-anniversary

microsound is about evolution -- i.e. mutating and constantly changing 
shape and direction.

So in this spirit I'd like to have each project for the 10 year 
anniversary be self-sufficient and self-sustaining.

Local nodes connecting in a network and exchanging information and energy.

From onds at onds.com  Fri Jun 19 13:05:02 2009
From: onds at onds.com (Henry Vega)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:05:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [microsound] 10 year anniversary - Den Haag
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0906191201330.4172-100000@plus41.host4u.net>


Hello everyone. 
Im very interested in doing something at DCR/Zeebelt and it would be great 
to have some partners.
Anyone on the list from The Hague?

Cheers,
Henry


-- 
------------------------------ 
Henry Vega
271 Dela Reyweg 
2571 EG Den Haag

+31 6 4780 2313

http://www.henryvega.net
http://www.spycollective.com
http://www.electronichammer.com
------------------------------



From thinksamuel at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 21 17:39:36 2009
From: thinksamuel at yahoo.com (Samuel van ransbeeck)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:39:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [microsound] Anyone can ckeck my paper
Message-ID: <17410.98466.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For the first time I get to write an article for a scientific journal (PJIM) about my software. I was wondering if somebody could check my paper, more specifically, if the references are correct. They use the chicago manual of style. I tried to follow it as good as possible. you can download the paper here
https://www.yousendit.com/download/cmcyNU1JQTY1R05MWEE9PQ

Please send me remarks. 
Thanks alot
Samuel Van Ransbeeck


      
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From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Wed Jun 24 15:36:22 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:36:22 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch project
Message-ID: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>

wondering how people are coming with the project?
anyone got something to listen to? or look at?

From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Wed Jun 24 16:07:50 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:50 -0700
Subject: [microsound] NL: torrent uploaded to the repository
Message-ID: <4A428796.6070109@anechoicmedia.com>

Home 
<http://www.microsound.org/repository/index.php?direction=0&order=&> / 
miscellaneous 
<http://www.microsound.org/repository/index.php?direction=0&order=&directory=miscellaneous&> 
/ mp3 
<http://www.microsound.org/repository/index.php?direction=0&order=&directory=miscellaneous/mp3&> 
/ Naked_Lunch 
<http://www.microsound.org/repository/index.php?direction=0&order=&directory=miscellaneous/mp3/Naked_Lunch&>/ 
goodie is located here



From jce32 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:17:07 2009
From: jce32 at hotmail.com (Jim Evans)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:17:07 -0700
Subject: [microsound] new to the microsound was interested in posting
 some tracks influenced by Infinite Jest
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3069.1245872199.6354.microsound@or8.net>
References: <mailman.3069.1245872199.6354.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <COL107-W26C660C45A9730BD7FCBFBA2370@phx.gbl>


Hi all,

This is Jim Evans from Sparkle Girl/Soccer Mom Ebonics. I came across this site due to a search after DFW passed away. We have a track to post but just wanted to say hi to all.

Jim Evans

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>    1. Re: streaming audio/video query (John Hudak)
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>    3. Re: streaming audio/video query (michael trommer)
>    4. Re: streaming audio/video query (Korhan Erel)
>    5. 10 year anniversary (Kim Cascone)
>    6. 10 year anniversary - Den Haag (Henry Vega)
>    7. Anyone can ckeck my paper (Samuel van ransbeeck)
>    8. Naked Lunch project (Kim Cascone)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:47:30 -0400
> From: John Hudak <johnhudak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Message-ID:
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> 
> thanks for the reply, kevin!
> at home i have a fiber optic connection, but i'm not sure what the venue has
> (will be streaming to thailand in this particular case).  the time
> difference also may be a nuisance...but a small one.
> 
> best,
> john
> 
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Kevin Paul <kcpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > To follow up,  I have also used Skype in conference call mode to get
> > two simultaneous audio streams.   I had hoped to route the streams to
> > different channels but Skype can't do this.  The biggest problem was
> > that my collaborators were performing at 4am and 5am respectively
> > local time  ;)
> >
> > Kevin Paul
> >
> > On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:29 AM, John Hudak wrote:
> >
> > > hello folks!  i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for
> > > distant net performances in the past, but since it has been awhile,
> > > i was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming
> > > audio broadcast via the net.  i also want the possibility of video,
> > > so skype may be my only option.  if anyone has any experience with
> > > the reliability of skype, that would be helpful.  any other method
> > > suggestions would be highly appreciated.
> > >
> > > best,
> > > john
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.johnhudak.net
> > > http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
> > >
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> 
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> http://www.johnhudak.net
> http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:39:59 -0400
> From: tkrakowiak <traktorman at gmail.com>
> Subject: [microsound] .microsound 10th anniversary Toronto
> To: microsound at microsound.org
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> anyone from TO interested in making it happen?
> cheers
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:27:29 -0400
> From: michael trommer <trommer at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
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> Hi...i did an online performance with someone from shenzhen china (I?m in
> toronto) using tube:
> 
> http://www.t-u-b-e.de/
> 
> Audio-only, though.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/18/09 9:29 AM, "John Hudak" <johnhudak at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > hello folks! ?i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for distant net
> > performances in the past, but since it has been awhile, i was wondering if
> > anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming audio broadcast via the net. ?i
> > also want the possibility of video, so skype may be my only option. ?if anyone
> > has any experience with the reliability of skype, that would be helpful. ?any
> > other method suggestions would be highly appreciated.
> > 
> > best,
> > john?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:34:44 +0300
> From: Korhan Erel <listekutusu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] streaming audio/video query
> To: microsound at microsound.org
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> One of the performers was myself, from Istanbul. I have used Skype to  
> play in Berlin, Madrid and finally in New Mexico, without any problems.
> 
> On 18.Haz.2009, at 16:38, Kevin Paul wrote:
> 
> To follow up,  I have also used Skype in conference call mode to get
> two simultaneous audio streams.   I had hoped to route the streams to
> different channels but Skype can't do this.  The biggest problem was
> that my collaborators were performing at 4am and 5am respectively
> local time  ;)
> 
> Kevin Paul
> 
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:29 AM, John Hudak wrote:
> 
> > hello folks!  i have used nicecast [ mac version of icecast ] for
> > distant net performances in the past, but since it has been awhile,
> > i was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives for streaming
> > audio broadcast via the net.  i also want the possibility of video,
> > so skype may be my only option.  if anyone has any experience with
> > the reliability of skype, that would be helpful.  any other method
> > suggestions would be highly appreciated.
> >
> > best,
> > john
> >
> > -- 
> > http://www.johnhudak.net
> > http://www.facebook.com/johnhudaksound
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:49:17 -0700
> From: Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com>
> Subject: [microsound] 10 year anniversary
> To: microsound_list <microsound at or8.net>, 	Microsound Announce
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> 
> I have been getting a lot of response and interest from people all over 
> the world about setting up some sort of event for the .microsound 10 
> year anniversary.
> 
> I am very pleased to see the community respond to this in such a 
> positive manner.
> 
> As with all things microsound there is no need to get my approval for 
> hosting an event any more than someone needs my approval to start a 
> microsound community project.
> 
> If you have an idea please post it to the WIKI page I set up
> 
> or ask me to start a new page for your particular project/location.
> 
> http://anechoicmedia.wikidot.com/microsound-anniversary
> 
> microsound is about evolution -- i.e. mutating and constantly changing 
> shape and direction.
> 
> So in this spirit I'd like to have each project for the 10 year 
> anniversary be self-sufficient and self-sustaining.
> 
> Local nodes connecting in a network and exchanging information and energy.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:05:02 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Henry Vega <onds at onds.com>
> Subject: [microsound] 10 year anniversary - Den Haag
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0906191201330.4172-100000 at plus41.host4u.net>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> 
> Hello everyone. 
> Im very interested in doing something at DCR/Zeebelt and it would be great 
> to have some partners.
> Anyone on the list from The Hague?
> 
> Cheers,
> Henry
> 
> 
> -- 
> ------------------------------ 
> Henry Vega
> 271 Dela Reyweg 
> 2571 EG Den Haag
> 
> +31 6 4780 2313
> 
> http://www.henryvega.net
> http://www.spycollective.com
> http://www.electronichammer.com
> ------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:39:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Samuel van ransbeeck <thinksamuel at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [microsound] Anyone can ckeck my paper
> To: microsound at or8.net
> Message-ID: <17410.98466.qm at web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> For the first time I get to write an article for a scientific journal (PJIM) about my software. I was wondering if somebody could check my paper, more specifically, if the references are correct. They use the chicago manual of style. I tried to follow it as good as possible. you can download the paper here
> https://www.yousendit.com/download/cmcyNU1JQTY1R05MWEE9PQ
> 
> Please send me remarks. 
> Thanks alot
> Samuel Van Ransbeeck
> 
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> From: Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com>
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> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
> 
> 
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From gary at meterpool.com  Wed Jun 24 18:21:32 2009
From: gary at meterpool.com (Gary R. Weisberg)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:21:32 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch project
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From diosdispone at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 23:48:52 2009
From: diosdispone at gmail.com (gerardo figueroa)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:48:52 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch project
In-Reply-To: <4A42A6EC.8060904@meterpool.com>
References: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>
	<4A42A6EC.8060904@meterpool.com>
Message-ID: <cde7886c0906242048jb7c8e3as18139ec619f6e88b@mail.gmail.com>

i'm still preparing my piece - little details and nuances missing ;)
it's called "el burro habla", and, as i said in a previous mail, it's
based on frank zappa's reading of "the talking asshole" [
http://www.ubu.com/sound/zappa.html ]
june 28 will be uploaded :)
hope y'all enjoy it

gerardo

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Gary R. Weisberg<gary at meterpool.com> wrote:
> Finally - a folder for uploads!
> Please listen to:
> Interzone Radio - a strange mix of oddly connected communiques heard while
> in a trance at Dr. Benway's villa...
> Gary
>
> Kim Cascone wrote:
>
> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>



-- 
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gfr broadcasting system
works in [constant} progress
since 1988
http://gfr.tumblr.com/
dios dispone

From diosdispone at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 23:48:52 2009
From: diosdispone at gmail.com (gerardo figueroa)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:48:52 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch project
In-Reply-To: <4A42A6EC.8060904@meterpool.com>
References: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>
	<4A42A6EC.8060904@meterpool.com>
Message-ID: <cde7886c0906242048jb7c8e3as18139ec619f6e88b@mail.gmail.com>

i'm still preparing my piece - little details and nuances missing ;)
it's called "el burro habla", and, as i said in a previous mail, it's
based on frank zappa's reading of "the talking asshole" [
http://www.ubu.com/sound/zappa.html ]
june 28 will be uploaded :)
hope y'all enjoy it

gerardo

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Gary R. Weisberg<gary at meterpool.com> wrote:
> Finally - a folder for uploads!
> Please listen to:
> Interzone Radio - a strange mix of oddly connected communiques heard while
> in a trance at Dr. Benway's villa...
> Gary
>
> Kim Cascone wrote:
>
> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>



-- 
gerardo figueroa rodr?guez
gfr broadcasting system
works in [constant} progress
since 1988
http://gfr.tumblr.com/
dios dispone

From kcpaul at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 23:58:31 2009
From: kcpaul at gmail.com (Kevin Paul)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:58:31 -0600
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch project
In-Reply-To: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <AC743188-F2B4-4BB4-9032-57E2F04875E9@gmail.com>

...still working...

Kevin Paul

On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:

> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


From the.apx at libero.it  Thu Jun 25 13:51:21 2009
From: the.apx at libero.it (Adern X)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:51:21 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch project
In-Reply-To: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <20090625195121.24cde26d@pigeon>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:36:22 -0700, a Bad Day on the Midway, Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:

> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?

I'm finished my piece "wsb". I hope to upload this sunday.

Hi,
A.X
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From the.apx at libero.it  Thu Jun 25 13:51:21 2009
From: the.apx at libero.it (Adern X)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:51:21 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch project
In-Reply-To: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A428036.9050308@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <20090625195121.24cde26d@pigeon>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:36:22 -0700, a Bad Day on the Midway, Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:

> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?

I'm finished my piece "wsb". I hope to upload this sunday.

Hi,
A.X
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From pintu at mclink.it  Fri Jun 26 08:05:00 2009
From: pintu at mclink.it (Daniele Balit)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:05:00 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Birdcage: Zeedijk,
	Amsterdam. Featuring: Audrey Chen (US), Wun Thong (AU),
	Byungjun Kwon (KR/NL), and dj sniff (JP/NL)
Message-ID: <1.3.200906261405.48984@mclink.it>

Hello list, 

For those of you who are in Amsterdam, don't miss episode 2 of the Birdcage project, July 4.
Apologies for cross posting.  
  

Birdcage: Zeedijk
Featuring: Audrey Chen (US), Wun Thong (AU), Byungjun Kwon (KR/NL), 
and dj sniff (JP/NL)

Saturday, July 4, 2009
19h ? 21h
at Toko Dun Yong store front
Zeedijk 88 
1012, Amsterdam

Curated by: Daniele Balit and Mathias Geoffroy
Support by: Association 2028, Toko Dun Yong, CRTV, STEIM, softskin productions, Pallet Boy

One of the first things you notice in the Netherlands are exposed windows. 
Whether it's a family having dinner or a half naked lady luring you into her red lit room, the interface between the interior and exterior is often transparent. In contrast, for many Asian cultures you can barely catch a glimpse inside. Perhaps this has to do with how each culture deals with the gaze - looking at or being looked at. However, what is more interesting to us, is how do we listen within the politics of this gaze.

Birdcage: Zeedijk is a listening experience, about the way our ears can focus or drift in a given multi-sensory environment. Surrounded by coffeeshops and the windows of the Red Light District, Zeedijk Street is a mash-up of Asian cultures. dj sniff chose this context to host his sonic laboratory for one night and deliver episode 2 of the Birdcage sound project. He has extended his invitation to Audrey Chen, Wun Thong, and Byungjun Kwon, who are all active members of the experimental music scene, and all of Asian descent living and working in the Western world. Through the bare windows of an empty storefront, four stages will be created and installed by designer Mathias Geoffroy, purposefully skewing the visual and auditory relationships for both the audience and the performers.

Listening is less directional and less definitive than looking, it can deal with complexity on a higher level of presence or "there-ness." If you listen hard enough you can always hear what you cannot see. 

--

Contact and info:
birdcagespace at gmail.com
ph. 0031 6 17 017 549

Links:
Birdcage
http://www.birdcagespace.com

dj sniff
http://www.djsniff.com

Audrey Chen
http://www.myspace.com/audreychen

Wun Thong (Carolyn Teo)
http://www.carolynteo.com 
http://www.plumindustries.org/tag/carolyn-teo/

Byungjun Kwon
http://byungjun.pe.kr/xe/

Steim
http://www.steim.org



--
Daniele Balit
45, Rue de Belleville
75019 - Paris

+33664120823 (FR)
+393338985888 (ITA)



From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Fri Jun 26 16:11:41 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:11:41 -0700
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch
Message-ID: <4A452B7D.6030605@anechoicmedia.com>

.microsounders
some of the n00bs are having some confusion about how and where to 
upload files to

http://www.microsound.org/repository/

there is a link on the microsound.org front page

you MUST be sub'd to the list before you are allowed to upload files

the server checks for you against the list of sub'ers

if you are having trouble write to Paulo and ask him to update the list
(has to be done by hand IIRC)

remember to name your files properly or they will be taken down





From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Sat Jun 27 13:39:40 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:39:40 -0700
Subject: [microsound] project guidelines updated
Message-ID: <4A46595C.8060005@anechoicmedia.com>

it was brought to my attention that the project guidelines page were 
woefully out of date
they are now updated and can be found here:
http://microsound.org/guidelines.php

From paulorcbarros at uol.com.br  Sat Jun 27 17:43:53 2009
From: paulorcbarros at uol.com.br (Paulo R. C. Barros)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:43:53 -0300
Subject: [microsound] "D r a w i ng"
In-Reply-To: <4A46595C.8060005@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A46595C.8060005@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <4a469299f1b35_35ba1555555881ac650@weasel15.tmail>

http://vimeo.com/5224897

All the best,
Paulo

From the.apx at libero.it  Sun Jun 28 09:28:16 2009
From: the.apx at libero.it (Adern X)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:28:16 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch piece uploaded
Message-ID: <20090628152816.2c1f7123@pigeon>

Hi,
i've just uploaded my piece and a note. The track is called wsb (stand for William S. Burroughs).

Hope you enjoy,
A.X
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From gwildes1 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 10:12:39 2009
From: gwildes1 at gmail.com (Gregory Wildes)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:12:39 +0800
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch Project
Message-ID: <52b82630906280712l3aa16dapd41146e3f07c474c@mail.gmail.com>

iNtErCuT.mp3
A brief report from Lee the Agent
has been uploaded...

Cheers,
Gregory Wildes

From billjarboe at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 28 17:11:33 2009
From: billjarboe at earthlink.net (Bill Jarboe)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:11:33 -0700
Subject: [microsound] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4A46595C.8060005@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A46595C.8060005@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <3E0C47F4-75A4-4B04-A29E-ACE2D2FB0329@earthlink.net>

-was near the window in the sunlight while downloading a sound  
file ,  writing a mix to disc and there was a most extraordinary  
sound.  i imagined someone walking down the street with some noise  
producing device; it seemed too loud for a cell phone or something  
similar. i couldn't place the rumble, sounded different from that  
which i am accustomed. my only possible explanation ( other than  
looking ; something i ruled out since the person making the noises  
was clearly doing it to attract attention) was that some strange sort  
of float had separated from the gay pride parade rumored to take  
place today.


   something clued me in and i was listening to broken arabesque     
by joey bania  from the naked lunch project presumably.



                                                       b 

From cfcjoeb at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 28 17:25:25 2009
From: cfcjoeb at hotmail.com (Joey Bania)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:25:25 +1000
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch piece uploaded
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3204.1246196279.6354.microsound@or8.net>
References: <mailman.3204.1246196279.6354.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <COL115-W200C1D91AF44D6A1E7319FAB330@phx.gbl>


I uploaded my piece, 'Broken Arabesque, yesterday. Everything sounds great so far! 

Josef 

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:37:59 -0400

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From: gary at meterpool.com
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:21:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [microsound] Naked Lunch project






  


Finally - a folder for uploads!

Please listen to:

Interzone Radio - a strange mix of oddly
connected communiques heard while in a trance at Dr. Benway's villa... 

Gary



Kim Cascone wrote:

  wondering how people are coming with the project?
anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
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From: diosdispone at gmail.com
To: microsound at microsound.org; microsound at or8.net
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:48:52 -0400
Subject: Re: [microsound] Naked Lunch project

i'm still preparing my piece - little details and nuances missing ;)
it's called "el burro habla", and, as i said in a previous mail, it's
based on frank zappa's reading of "the talking asshole" [
http://www.ubu.com/sound/zappa.html ]
june 28 will be uploaded :)
hope y'all enjoy it
 
gerardo
 
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Gary R. Weisberg<gary at meterpool.com> wrote:
> Finally - a folder for uploads!
> Please listen to:
> Interzone Radio - a strange mix of oddly connected communiques heard while
> in a trance at Dr. Benway's villa...
> Gary
>
> Kim Cascone wrote:
>
> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
 
 
 
-- 
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gfr broadcasting system
works in [constant} progress
since 1988
http://gfr.tumblr.com/
dios dispone
 


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From: diosdispone at gmail.com
To: microsound at microsound.org; microsound at or8.net
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:48:52 -0400
Subject: Re: [microsound] Naked Lunch project

i'm still preparing my piece - little details and nuances missing ;)
it's called "el burro habla", and, as i said in a previous mail, it's
based on frank zappa's reading of "the talking asshole" [
http://www.ubu.com/sound/zappa.html ]
june 28 will be uploaded :)
hope y'all enjoy it
 
gerardo
 
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Gary R. Weisberg<gary at meterpool.com> wrote:
> Finally - a folder for uploads!
> Please listen to:
> Interzone Radio - a strange mix of oddly connected communiques heard while
> in a trance at Dr. Benway's villa...
> Gary
>
> Kim Cascone wrote:
>
> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
 
 
 
-- 
gerardo figueroa rodr?guez
gfr broadcasting system
works in [constant} progress
since 1988
http://gfr.tumblr.com/
dios dispone
 


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From: kcpaul at gmail.com
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:58:31 -0600
Subject: Re: [microsound] Naked Lunch project

...still working...
 
Kevin Paul
 
On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:
 
> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
 
 


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From: the.apx at libero.it
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To: microsound at or8.net
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:51:21 +0200
Subject: Re: [microsound] Naked Lunch project

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:36:22 -0700, a Bad Day on the Midway, Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
 
> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
 
I'm finished my piece "wsb". I hope to upload this sunday.
 
Hi,
A.X
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From: the.apx at libero.it
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To: microsound at or8.net
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:51:21 +0200
Subject: Re: [microsound] Naked Lunch project

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:36:22 -0700, a Bad Day on the Midway, Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
 
> wondering how people are coming with the project?
> anyone got something to listen to? or look at?
 
I'm finished my piece "wsb". I hope to upload this sunday.
 
Hi,
A.X
-- 
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From: pintu at mclink.it
To: microsound at or8.net
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:05:00 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Birdcage: Zeedijk,	Amsterdam. Featuring: Audrey Chen (US), Wun Thong (AU),	Byungjun Kwon (KR/NL), and dj sniff (JP/NL)

Hello list, 
 
For those of you who are in Amsterdam, don't miss episode 2 of the Birdcage project, July 4.
Apologies for cross posting.  
  
 
Birdcage: Zeedijk
Featuring: Audrey Chen (US), Wun Thong (AU), Byungjun Kwon (KR/NL), 
and dj sniff (JP/NL)
 
Saturday, July 4, 2009
19h ? 21h
at Toko Dun Yong store front
Zeedijk 88 
1012, Amsterdam
 
Curated by: Daniele Balit and Mathias Geoffroy
Support by: Association 2028, Toko Dun Yong, CRTV, STEIM, softskin productions, Pallet Boy
 
One of the first things you notice in the Netherlands are exposed windows. 
Whether it's a family having dinner or a half naked lady luring you into her red lit room, the interface between the interior and exterior is often transparent. In contrast, for many Asian cultures you can barely catch a glimpse inside. Perhaps this has to do with how each culture deals with the gaze - looking at or being looked at. However, what is more interesting to us, is how do we listen within the politics of this gaze.
 
Birdcage: Zeedijk is a listening experience, about the way our ears can focus or drift in a given multi-sensory environment. Surrounded by coffeeshops and the windows of the Red Light District, Zeedijk Street is a mash-up of Asian cultures. dj sniff chose this context to host his sonic laboratory for one night and deliver episode 2 of the Birdcage sound project. He has extended his invitation to Audrey Chen, Wun Thong, and Byungjun Kwon, who are all active members of the experimental music scene, and all of Asian descent living and working in the Western world. Through the bare windows of an empty storefront, four stages will be created and installed by designer Mathias Geoffroy, purposefully skewing the visual and auditory relationships for both the audience and the performers.
 
Listening is less directional and less definitive than looking, it can deal with complexity on a higher level of presence or "there-ness." If you listen hard enough you can always hear what you cannot see. 
 
--
 
Contact and info:
birdcagespace at gmail.com
ph. 0031 6 17 017 549
 
Links:
Birdcage
http://www.birdcagespace.com
 
dj sniff
http://www.djsniff.com
 
Audrey Chen
http://www.myspace.com/audreychen
 
Wun Thong (Carolyn Teo)
http://www.carolynteo.com 
http://www.plumindustries.org/tag/carolyn-teo/
 
Byungjun Kwon
http://byungjun.pe.kr/xe/
 
Steim
http://www.steim.org
 
 
 
--
Daniele Balit
45, Rue de Belleville
75019 - Paris
 
+33664120823 (FR)
+393338985888 (ITA)
 
 
 


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From: kim at anechoicmedia.com
To: microsound at or8.net
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:11:41 -0700
Subject: [microsound] naked lunch

.microsounders
some of the n00bs are having some confusion about how and where to 
upload files to
 
http://www.microsound.org/repository/
 
there is a link on the microsound.org front page
 
you MUST be sub'd to the list before you are allowed to upload files
 
the server checks for you against the list of sub'ers
 
if you are having trouble write to Paulo and ask him to update the list
(has to be done by hand IIRC)
 
remember to name your files properly or they will be taken down
 
 
 
 
 


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From: kim at anechoicmedia.com
To: microsound at or8.net
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:39:40 -0700
Subject: [microsound] project guidelines updated

it was brought to my attention that the project guidelines page were 
woefully out of date
they are now updated and can be found here:
http://microsound.org/guidelines.php
 


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From: paulorcbarros at uol.com.br
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:43:53 -0300
Subject: [microsound] "D r a w i ng"

http://vimeo.com/5224897
 
All the best,
Paulo
 


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From: the.apx at libero.it
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:28:16 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch piece uploaded

Hi,
i've just uploaded my piece and a note. The track is called wsb (stand for William S. Burroughs).
 
Hope you enjoy,
A.X
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From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Sun Jun 28 19:31:43 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:31:43 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch pt2
Message-ID: <4A47FD5F.5000708@anechoicmedia.com>

good to see some pieces going up on the server!
nice work .microsounders!!
now we need some graphics fdr a cd cover/tray card
there are templates floating around or you can use something from an old 
project as a template
any takers on designing something?
:)



From js0000 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 23:02:22 2009
From: js0000 at gmail.com (john saylor)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:02:22 -0400
Subject: [microsound] .microsound _naked_lunch_ 50
Message-ID: <eb84d37a0906282002y711cb84dq24ee459e810069cb@mail.gmail.com>

[junkies have no greetings]


i uploaded my contribution to the _naked_lunch_ 50 project.
Home / projects / Naked_Lunch / js

there are 3 files

1. mp3 [for the bandwidth frugal]
2. flac [for the full monty]
3. text [babbling]

enjoy

-- 
\js  [  - . .  .   ]

From natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 06:13:32 2009
From: natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk (Natasha Roberts)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:13:32 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
Message-ID: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>



Hi Microsounders, 
this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email, hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines correctly).....
i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's talk on these philosophers?  The link at the following:
http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders

does not work- it seems. Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way, as it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music. 
ThanksNatasha Roberts.myspace.com/natasharoberts000 
_________________________________________________________________

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From hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 12:16:15 2009
From: hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com (Phil Thomson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:16:15 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:

http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm

Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?

Glad the theoretical resources page is useful to someone at least. I
set it up a while ago and was discouraged by what appeared to be a
lack of interest.

~pt


On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Natasha
Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Microsounders,
> this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the
> discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email,
> hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines correctly).....
> i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's talk
> on these philosophers? ?The link at the following:
> http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders
>
> does not work- it seems.
> Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way, as
> it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music.
> Thanks
> Natasha Roberts
> .myspace.com/natasharoberts000
> ________________________________
> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>



-- 
'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear
of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '

~C.S. Lewis

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Phil Thomson
~ http://philthomson.ca/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From tjaredfriend at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 12:20:38 2009
From: tjaredfriend at gmail.com (Jared Friend)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:20:38 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
	<c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <686773150906290920h35531033la0403abbe2fdcdab@mail.gmail.com>

Don't feel discouraged! I have also used and appreciated the resource!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Phil Thomson <
hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com <hellomynameisphil%2Bmcrsnd at gmail.com>>wrote:

> Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
>
> http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
>
> Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
>
> Glad the theoretical resources page is useful to someone at least. I
> set it up a while ago and was discouraged by what appeared to be a
> lack of interest.
>
> ~pt
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Natasha
> Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Microsounders,
> > this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the
> > discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email,
> > hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines
> correctly).....
> > i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's
> talk
> > on these philosophers?  The link at the following:
> >
> http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders
> >
> > does not work- it seems.
> > Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way,
> as
> > it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music.
> > Thanks
> > Natasha Roberts
> > .myspace.com/natasharoberts000
> > ________________________________
> > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> 'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear
> of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '
>
> ~C.S. Lewis
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~ Phil Thomson
> ~ http://philthomson.ca/
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
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From hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 12:16:15 2009
From: hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com (Phil Thomson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:16:15 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:

http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm

Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?

Glad the theoretical resources page is useful to someone at least. I
set it up a while ago and was discouraged by what appeared to be a
lack of interest.

~pt


On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Natasha
Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Microsounders,
> this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the
> discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email,
> hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines correctly).....
> i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's talk
> on these philosophers? ?The link at the following:
> http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders
>
> does not work- it seems.
> Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way, as
> it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music.
> Thanks
> Natasha Roberts
> .myspace.com/natasharoberts000
> ________________________________
> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>



-- 
'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear
of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '

~C.S. Lewis

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Phil Thomson
~ http://philthomson.ca/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From tjaredfriend at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 12:20:38 2009
From: tjaredfriend at gmail.com (Jared Friend)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:20:38 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
	<c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <686773150906290920h35531033la0403abbe2fdcdab@mail.gmail.com>

Don't feel discouraged! I have also used and appreciated the resource!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Phil Thomson <
hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com <hellomynameisphil%2Bmcrsnd at gmail.com>>wrote:

> Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
>
> http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
>
> Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
>
> Glad the theoretical resources page is useful to someone at least. I
> set it up a while ago and was discouraged by what appeared to be a
> lack of interest.
>
> ~pt
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Natasha
> Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Microsounders,
> > this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the
> > discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email,
> > hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines
> correctly).....
> > i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's
> talk
> > on these philosophers?  The link at the following:
> >
> http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders
> >
> > does not work- it seems.
> > Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way,
> as
> > it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music.
> > Thanks
> > Natasha Roberts
> > .myspace.com/natasharoberts000
> > ________________________________
> > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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> of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '
>
> ~C.S. Lewis
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> ~ http://philthomson.ca/
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From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Mon Jun 29 12:42:54 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:42:54 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch: pestering reminder
Message-ID: <4A48EF0E.8080300@anechoicmedia.com>

OK we have seven pieces up on the web site
I want to get more up and

WE NEED ARTWORK!

please get your work up asap
so I can promote the site on Facebook and other places?
thanks - hope everyone is having a good summer so far!


From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Mon Jun 29 12:53:02 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:53:02 -0700
Subject: [microsound] fix ID3 tags
Message-ID: <4A48F16E.4020309@anechoicmedia.com>

can someone please fix the ID3 tags on this piece:

7 	Page132.mp3 
<http://www.microsound.org/repository/files/projects/Naked_Lunch/Page132.mp3> 
	03:55 	8.98 	n/a



From aherrick at pacbell.net  Mon Jun 29 13:23:10 2009
From: aherrick at pacbell.net (aherrick at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:23:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch: pestering reminder
Message-ID: <694384.42980.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have some artwork I will be posting later this evening as well as a track expected to be finished in the next day or so. 

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com> wrote:

From: Kim Cascone <kim at anechoicmedia.com>
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch: pestering reminder
To: "microsound_list" <microsound at or8.net>
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 9:42 AM

OK we have seven pieces up on the web site
I want to get more up and

WE NEED ARTWORK!

please get your work up asap
so I can promote the site on Facebook and other places?
thanks - hope everyone is having a good summer so far!

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From kim at anechoicmedia.com  Mon Jun 29 15:55:25 2009
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com (Kim Cascone)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:55:25 -0700
Subject: [microsound] reminder: 10 year anniversary
Message-ID: <4A491C2D.2070802@anechoicmedia.com>

just prodding people along to contribute ideas
[and commit to them if possible]
for the .microsound ten year anniversary celebrations


From dwnewman at clara.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 16:10:14 2009
From: dwnewman at clara.co.uk (David Newman)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:10:14 +0100
Subject: [microsound] reminder: 10 year anniversary
In-Reply-To: <4A491C2D.2070802@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <E1MLNAz-0005mV-LA@ptb-relay03.plus.net>

I'd be up for a CD release - with shared financial responsibility.....





What we need is a unifying concept - i.e., the number 10 - the word
microsound or a remix album of seminal microsound projects / tracks 

It for the list to make the concept come alive.....

I suggest the concept of "one tenth of a second " - and suggest that tracks
are made from such as source





Ugly money bit ... ;)

What do I mean re shared financial responsibility?

(e.g., ?50 per artist to be on for 12 artists) - with the understanding that
each artist will get a payment one year post release to try and repay this. 


 


David Newman
 
Audiobulb Records
http://www.audiobulb.com
 
To keep informed - sign up to our newsletter on-site
 
https://twitter.com/audiobulb | http://www.myspace.com/audiobulb

-----Original Message-----
From: microsound-bounces at or8.net [mailto:microsound-bounces at or8.net] On
Behalf Of Kim Cascone
Sent: 29 June 2009 20:55
To: microsound_list
Subject: [microsound] reminder: 10 year anniversary

just prodding people along to contribute ideas [and commit to them if
possible] for the .microsound ten year anniversary celebrations

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microsound at microsound.org
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From dwnewman at clara.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 16:10:14 2009
From: dwnewman at clara.co.uk (David Newman)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:10:14 +0100
Subject: [microsound] reminder: 10 year anniversary
In-Reply-To: <4A491C2D.2070802@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <E1MLNAz-0005mV-LA@ptb-relay03.plus.net>

I'd be up for a CD release - with shared financial responsibility.....





What we need is a unifying concept - i.e., the number 10 - the word
microsound or a remix album of seminal microsound projects / tracks 

It for the list to make the concept come alive.....

I suggest the concept of "one tenth of a second " - and suggest that tracks
are made from such as source





Ugly money bit ... ;)

What do I mean re shared financial responsibility?

(e.g., ?50 per artist to be on for 12 artists) - with the understanding that
each artist will get a payment one year post release to try and repay this. 


 


David Newman
 
Audiobulb Records
http://www.audiobulb.com
 
To keep informed - sign up to our newsletter on-site
 
https://twitter.com/audiobulb | http://www.myspace.com/audiobulb

-----Original Message-----
From: microsound-bounces at or8.net [mailto:microsound-bounces at or8.net] On
Behalf Of Kim Cascone
Sent: 29 June 2009 20:55
To: microsound_list
Subject: [microsound] reminder: 10 year anniversary

just prodding people along to contribute ideas [and commit to them if
possible] for the .microsound ten year anniversary celebrations

_______________________________________________
microsound mailing list
microsound at microsound.org
http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound


From matdalgleish at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 29 16:22:07 2009
From: matdalgleish at hotmail.com (matdalgleish at hotmail.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:22:07 +0100
Subject: [microsound] reminder: 10 year anniversary
Message-ID: <COL116-DS1684A137364D67BEC74E45C2300@phx.gbl>

nice idea, I'd be up for something along those lines



________________________

On 2009-06-29 21:17:10 +0100 David Newman <dwnewman at clara.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> I'd be up for a CD release - with shared financial responsibility.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What we need is a unifying concept - i.e., the number 10 - the word
> microsound or a remix album of seminal microsound projects / tracks 
> 
> It for the list to make the concept come alive.....
> 
> I suggest the concept of "one tenth of a second " - and suggest that tracks
> are made from such as source
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ugly money bit ... ;)
> 
> What do I mean re shared financial responsibility?
> 
> (e.g., ?50 per artist to be on for 12 artists) - with the understanding that
> each artist will get a payment one year post release to try and repay this. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> David Newman
> 
> Audiobulb Records
> http://www.audiobulb.com
> 
> To keep informed - sign up to our newsletter on-site
> 
> https://twitter.com/audiobulb | http://www.myspace.com/audiobulb
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: microsound-bounces at or8.net [mailto:microsound-bounces at or8.net] On
> Behalf Of Kim Cascone
> Sent: 29 June 2009 20:55
> To: microsound_list
> Subject: [microsound] reminder: 10 year anniversary
> 
> just prodding people along to contribute ideas [and commit to them if
> possible] for the .microsound ten year anniversary celebrations
> 
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> 
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> 


From sfogar at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 16:29:00 2009
From: sfogar at gmail.com (Alessandro Fogar)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:29:00 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Naked lunch project submission
Message-ID: <f932fbcd0906291329m10adadc0r27198fb478f2b71f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I uploaded my piece "I'm in the mood for love" to the naked lunch repository.

It's a granular deconstruction of some strange fields recordings

Hope tecnically everything is ok cause this is my first contribution.

All the best

-- 
Alessandro Fogar

http://www.fogar.it

From paulo.mouat at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 17:45:12 2009
From: paulo.mouat at gmail.com (Paulo Mouat)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:45:12 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
	<c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <424ce300906291445s44d437eegcfc280c3dc72c2bb@mail.gmail.com>

Done.

//p
http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Phil
Thomson<hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
>
> http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
>
> Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?

From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch  Mon Jun 29 18:05:49 2009
From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:05:49 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch: pestering reminder
In-Reply-To: <4A48EF0E.8080300@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A48EF0E.8080300@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <D2FB9FE4-ADFD-4564-934B-17873049CF5A@sunrise.ch>

severe logic problems today, will try to re-install tomorrow and  
bounce my piece.


Am 29.06.2009 um 18:42 schrieb Kim Cascone:

> OK we have seven pieces up on the web site
> I want to get more up and
>
> WE NEED ARTWORK!
>
> please get your work up asap
> so I can promote the site on Facebook and other places?
> thanks - hope everyone is having a good summer so far!
>
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

---

Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer

Tobias Reber
Freiburgstrasse 32
2503 Biel
Switzerland

mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69
email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
www.myspace.com/stereorabbi


From cfcjoeb at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 29 18:42:28 2009
From: cfcjoeb at hotmail.com (Joey Bania)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:42:28 +1000
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch graphics
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3262.1246292956.6354.microsound@or8.net>
References: <mailman.3262.1246292956.6354.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <COL115-W57F2A835A2E2181898DE21AB300@phx.gbl>


I've got some free time at the moment so I'd be happy to put something together, as long as I can have a bit of leeway on the submission date.

Should I leave the tray card blank until everyone has submitted their piece? 

From: microsound-request at or8.net
Subject: microsound Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
To: microsound at or8.net
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:29:16 -0400

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--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: kim at anechoicmedia.com
To: microsound at or8.net
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:31:43 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Naked Lunch pt2

good to see some pieces going up on the server!
nice work .microsounders!!
now we need some graphics fdr a cd cover/tray card
there are templates floating around or you can use something from an old 
project as a template
any takers on designing something?
:)
 
 
 


--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: js0000 at gmail.com
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:02:22 -0400
Subject: [microsound] .microsound _naked_lunch_ 50

[junkies have no greetings]
 
 
i uploaded my contribution to the _naked_lunch_ 50 project.
Home / projects / Naked_Lunch / js
 
there are 3 files
 
1. mp3 [for the bandwidth frugal]
2. flac [for the full monty]
3. text [babbling]
 
enjoy
 
-- 
\js  [  - . .  .   ]
 


--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk
To: microsound at or8.net
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:13:32 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)









Hi Microsounders, 
this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email, hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines correctly).....
i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's talk on these philosophers?  The link at the following:
http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders

does not work- it seems. Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way, as it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music. 
ThanksNatasha Roberts.myspace.com/natasharoberts000 
View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!


--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com
CC: microsound at or8.net
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:16:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)

Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
 
http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
 
Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
 
Glad the theoretical resources page is useful to someone at least. I
set it up a while ago and was discouraged by what appeared to be a
lack of interest.
 
~pt
 
 
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Natasha
Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Microsounders,
> this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the
> discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email,
> hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines correctly).....
> i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's talk
> on these philosophers?  The link at the following:
> http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders
>
> does not work- it seems.
> Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way, as
> it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music.
> Thanks
> Natasha Roberts
> .myspace.com/natasharoberts000
> ________________________________
> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
 
 
 
-- 
'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear
of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '
 
~C.S. Lewis
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Phil Thomson
~ http://philthomson.ca/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 


--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: tjaredfriend at gmail.com
CC: microsound at or8.net
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:20:38 -0700
Subject: Re: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)

Don't feel discouraged! I have also used and appreciated the resource!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Phil Thomson <hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com> wrote:

Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:



http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm



Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?



Glad the theoretical resources page is useful to someone at least. I

set it up a while ago and was discouraged by what appeared to be a

lack of interest.



~pt





On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Natasha

Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>

> Hi Microsounders,

> this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the

> discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email,

> hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines correctly).....

> i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's talk

> on these philosophers?  The link at the following:

> http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders

>

> does not work- it seems.

> Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way, as

> it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music.

> Thanks

> Natasha Roberts

> .myspace.com/natasharoberts000

> ________________________________

> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!

> _______________________________________________

> microsound mailing list

> microsound at microsound.org

> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

>

>







--

'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear

of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '



~C.S. Lewis



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~ Phil Thomson

~ http://philthomson.ca/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

_______________________________________________

microsound mailing list

microsound at microsound.org

http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound





--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com
CC: microsound at or8.net
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:16:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)

Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
 
http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
 
Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
 
Glad the theoretical resources page is useful to someone at least. I
set it up a while ago and was discouraged by what appeared to be a
lack of interest.
 
~pt
 
 
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Natasha
Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Microsounders,
> this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the
> discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email,
> hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines correctly).....
> i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's talk
> on these philosophers?  The link at the following:
> http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders
>
> does not work- it seems.
> Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way, as
> it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music.
> Thanks
> Natasha Roberts
> .myspace.com/natasharoberts000
> ________________________________
> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
>
 
 
 
-- 
'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear
of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '
 
~C.S. Lewis
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Phil Thomson
~ http://philthomson.ca/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 


--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: tjaredfriend at gmail.com
CC: microsound at or8.net
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:20:38 -0700
Subject: Re: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)

Don't feel discouraged! I have also used and appreciated the resource!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Phil Thomson <hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com> wrote:

Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:



http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm



Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?



Glad the theoretical resources page is useful to someone at least. I

set it up a while ago and was discouraged by what appeared to be a

lack of interest.



~pt





On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Natasha

Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>

> Hi Microsounders,

> this is my first email to Microsound (although i have observed the

> discussions for a while) so i finally plucked up the courage to email,

> hopefully all has worked okay (and i have met the guidelines correctly).....

> i wanted to know if there's any way i can watch/download Kim Cascone's talk

> on these philosophers?  The link at the following:

> http://www.microsound.org/wiki/index.php?title=Theoretical_resources_for_microsounders

>

> does not work- it seems.

> Thanks for the resources (e.g. wiki) and discussion insight by the way, as

> it is not often i get to talk to people about these ideas/concepts/music.

> Thanks

> Natasha Roberts

> .myspace.com/natasharoberts000

> ________________________________

> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more!

> _______________________________________________

> microsound mailing list

> microsound at microsound.org

> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

>

>







--

'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear

of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '



~C.S. Lewis



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~ Phil Thomson

~ http://philthomson.ca/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

_______________________________________________

microsound mailing list

microsound at microsound.org

http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound




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From hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 19:24:34 2009
From: hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com (Phil Thomson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:24:34 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <424ce300906291445s44d437eegcfc280c3dc72c2bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
	<c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com> 
	<424ce300906291445s44d437eegcfc280c3dc72c2bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c3e4d47f0906291624t687ee3rbde64e48d0e968d0@mail.gmail.com>

I actually had some trouble with the direct link, so I reworded the
text of the link and made it point to the page for the event, not just
for Kim's talk. But thank you nonetheless for your attempt to fix the
link, and I'm glad to see some interest again in this page which I set
up so long ago.

~pt


On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Paulo Mouat<paulo.mouat at gmail.com> wrote:
> Done.
>
> //p
> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Phil
> Thomson<hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
>>
>> http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
>>
>> Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
> _______________________________________________
> microsound mailing list
> microsound at microsound.org
> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>



-- 
'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear
of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '

~C.S. Lewis

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Phil Thomson
~ http://philthomson.ca/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From michael.north at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 29 20:03:20 2009
From: michael.north at sympatico.ca (Michael North)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:03:20 -0400
Subject: [microsound] reminder: 10 year anniversary
In-Reply-To: <4A491C2D.2070802@anechoicmedia.com>
References: <4A491C2D.2070802@anechoicmedia.com>
Message-ID: <846675B5-C39A-4485-8C00-D1AFBD4455F2@sympatico.ca>

sorry kim
my piece for the naked lunch and any 10th ann. stuff will be greatly  
delayed as we've had a couple of rounds of that swine flu thing at my  
place....everyone is recovering but, as far as i'm concerned it was  
no 'mild, not as severe as the regular flu'...pretty much has lasted  
10 days on average and has required some hospitalization.....
On 29-Jun-09, at 3:55 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:

> just prodding people along to contribute ideas
> [and commit to them if possible]
> for the .microsound ten year anniversary celebrations
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

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http://tiny.cc/wIMHz
http://www.pertin-nce.com
michael.north at sympatico.ca
"Enough with politics! On with the practical tasks of everyday life!?




From sashimibee at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 20:36:14 2009
From: sashimibee at gmail.com (Georgina Lewis)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:36:14 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <c3e4d47f0906291624t687ee3rbde64e48d0e968d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT107-W270CBA6BA18F13940DEC41C2300@phx.gbl>
	<c3e4d47f0906290916o738dc186ra24c16abb423fdbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<424ce300906291445s44d437eegcfc280c3dc72c2bb@mail.gmail.com>
	<c3e4d47f0906291624t687ee3rbde64e48d0e968d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47b4fb710906291736q27616031ydd6c72beb591635c@mail.gmail.com>

I'm afraid I hadn't been previously aware of this page (my negligence); I'm
very happy to have it pointed out to me. Many thanks for setting it up.

-Georgina

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Phil Thomson <
hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com <hellomynameisphil%2Bmcrsnd at gmail.com>>wrote:

> I actually had some trouble with the direct link, so I reworded the
> text of the link and made it point to the page for the event, not just
> for Kim's talk. But thank you nonetheless for your attempt to fix the
> link, and I'm glad to see some interest again in this page which I set
> up so long ago.
>
> ~pt
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Paulo Mouat<paulo.mouat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Done.
> >
> > //p
> > http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Phil
> > Thomson<hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com<hellomynameisphil%2Bmcrsnd at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
> >>
> >> http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
> >>
> >> Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
> > _______________________________________________
> > microsound mailing list
> > microsound at microsound.org
> > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
> >
>
>
>
> --
> 'When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear
> of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '
>
> ~C.S. Lewis
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~ Phil Thomson
> ~ http://philthomson.ca/
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From mail at peterodoherty.net  Tue Jun 30 01:50:01 2009
From: mail at peterodoherty.net (Peter O'Doherty)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:50:01 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3306.1246313166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
References: <mailman.3306.1246313166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
Message-ID: <4A49A789.2000105@peterodoherty.net>

It seems the links on the Tate site aren't working. Can someone else 
please confirm it's not just me? Thanks, Peter 
------------------------------ On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Phil 
Thomson<hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
> >
> > http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
> >
> > Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
>   
-- 

/*------------------
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------------------*/


From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch  Tue Jun 30 02:17:26 2009
From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:26 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <4A49A789.2000105@peterodoherty.net>
References: <mailman.3306.1246313166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
	<4A49A789.2000105@peterodoherty.net>
Message-ID: <97ED169C-69E8-4F91-967B-590E129DF350@sunrise.ch>

that's true. it seems they're working on renewing the site - i just  
found this note on http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/live/programme.jsp

"Important Information!
Tate's Real Player service is being replaced by a new service, and we  
are currently in the process of re-encoding all of our existing  
material into the new video format. Some Online Events archives are  
not currently available due to changes in the way Tate delivers video  
online. We apologise for the temporary loss and are working hard to  
put them online as soon as possible. "

it might be old, though...

tobias

Am 30.06.2009 um 07:50 schrieb Peter O'Doherty:

> It seems the links on the Tate site aren't working. Can someone else
> please confirm it's not just me? Thanks, Peter
> ------------------------------ On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Phil
> Thomson<hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
>>>
>>> http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
>>
> -- 
>
> /*------------------
> Peter O'Doherty -> peterodoherty.net
> ------------------*/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

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Tobias Reber
Freiburgstrasse 32
2503 Biel
Switzerland

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From natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Jun 30 04:26:06 2009
From: natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk (Natasha Roberts)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:26:06 +0100
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <97ED169C-69E8-4F91-967B-590E129DF350@sunrise.ch>
References: <mailman.3306.1246313166.6354.microsound@or8.net>
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	<97ED169C-69E8-4F91-967B-590E129DF350@sunrise.ch>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W6245633195598B9A48A84CC2310@phx.gbl>


None of the links were working for me yesterday but i thought i would wait and try again today (no joy), so i presume it is just a patient wait until they are back up again! Its great to also see that the Tate have these archives, makes me feel better for missing out on some of these events. 


From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
To: microsound at microsound.org
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:26 +0200
Subject: Re: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)

that's true. it seems they're working on renewing the site - i just found this note on http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/live/programme.jsp
"Important Information!
Tate's Real Player service is being replaced by a new service, and we are currently in the process of re-encoding all of our existing material into the new video format. Some Online Events archives are not currently available due to changes in the way Tate delivers video online. We apologise for the temporary loss and are working hard to put them online as soon as possible. "
it might be old, though...
tobias
Am 30.06.2009 um 07:50 schrieb Peter O'Doherty:It seems the links on the Tate site aren't working. Can someone else 
please confirm it's not just me? Thanks, Peter 
------------------------------ On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Phil 
Thomson<hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com> wrote:

Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:

http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm

Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?

-- 

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From tobiasreber at sunrise.ch  Tue Jun 30 16:17:50 2009
From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch (Tobias Reber)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:17:50 +0200
Subject: [microsound] Naked lunch project submission
In-Reply-To: <f932fbcd0906291329m10adadc0r27198fb478f2b71f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f932fbcd0906291329m10adadc0r27198fb478f2b71f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EE5E22F7-0BF5-482A-AE09-D4B6CF88E7F4@sunrise.ch>

dear all,

my piece "cricket transmissions" is now in the naked lunch project  
folder.

it is a collage of spectral cutups of the file on "Origin and Theory  
of the Tape-Cut-Ups" on this ubuweb page

http://www.ubu.com/sound/burroughs.html

tobias

...


Am 29.06.2009 um 22:29 schrieb Alessandro Fogar:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded my piece "I'm in the mood for love" to the naked lunch  
> repository.
>
> It's a granular deconstruction of some strange fields recordings
>
> Hope tecnically everything is ok cause this is my first contribution.
>
> All the best
>
> -- 
> Alessandro Fogar
>
> http://www.fogar.it
> _______________________________________________
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> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound

---

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Tobias Reber
Freiburgstrasse 32
2503 Biel
Switzerland

mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69
email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
www.myspace.com/stereorabbi


From diosdispone at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 19:00:43 2009
From: diosdispone at gmail.com (gerardo figueroa)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:00:43 -0400
Subject: [microsound] Naked lunch project submission
In-Reply-To: <EE5E22F7-0BF5-482A-AE09-D4B6CF88E7F4@sunrise.ch>
References: <f932fbcd0906291329m10adadc0r27198fb478f2b71f@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE5E22F7-0BF5-482A-AE09-D4B6CF88E7F4@sunrise.ch>
Message-ID: <cde7886c0906301600q65c2498ew1184c360b8755d7b@mail.gmail.com>

hi everyone,

at 7:00 p.m. chilean time, i uploaded my contribution to this project.

it's called "el burro habla", and it's based on the introduction to
"the talking asshole" reading by frank zappa @ the nova convention
[http://www.ubu.com/sound/zappa.html].

here fz's reading is interrupted by a dummy of his, who spoils his
intro using burroughesque text techniques.

the piece was conceived following the ideas presented in the
aforementioned intro and the processes involved in the making of john
oswald's "burrows" - hence the name for the piece also.

hope u enjoy it ;) - and please inform me if there's any missing stuff
in the file

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Tobias Reber<tobiasreber at sunrise.ch> wrote:
> dear all,
>
> my piece "cricket transmissions" is now in the naked lunch project
> folder.
>
> it is a collage of spectral cutups of the file on "Origin and Theory
> of the Tape-Cut-Ups" on this ubuweb page
>
> http://www.ubu.com/sound/burroughs.html
>
> tobias
>
> ...
>
>
> Am 29.06.2009 um 22:29 schrieb Alessandro Fogar:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded my piece "I'm in the mood for love" to the naked lunch
>> repository.
>>
>> It's a granular deconstruction of some strange fields recordings
>>
>> Hope tecnically everything is ok cause this is my first contribution.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> --
>> Alessandro Fogar
>>
>> http://www.fogar.it
>> _______________________________________________
>> microsound mailing list
>> microsound at microsound.org
>> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
> ---
>
> Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer
>
> Tobias Reber
> Freiburgstrasse 32
> 2503 Biel
> Switzerland
>
> mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69
> email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
> www.myspace.com/stereorabbi
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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works in [constant} progress
since 1988
http://gfr.tumblr.com/
dios dispone

From craque at craque.net  Tue Jun 30 20:51:26 2009
From: craque at craque.net (CraqueMat)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:51:26 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Naked lunch project submission
In-Reply-To: <cde7886c0906301600q65c2498ew1184c360b8755d7b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f932fbcd0906291329m10adadc0r27198fb478f2b71f@mail.gmail.com>	<EE5E22F7-0BF5-482A-AE09-D4B6CF88E7F4@sunrise.ch>
	<cde7886c0906301600q65c2498ew1184c360b8755d7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A4AB30E.1030706@craque.net>

My piece: 'Making Pink'
Now available on the repository.

There is also a directory called 'MakingPinkText' which contains the 
full text of the piece, derived from each page of Naked Lunch. The 
location of words and punctuation provided the form and structure of the 
work.

Enjoy!
-matt


From hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 23:44:07 2009
From: hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com (Phil Thomson)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:44:07 -0700
Subject: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
In-Reply-To: <SNT107-W6245633195598B9A48A84CC2310@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.3306.1246313166.6354.microsound@or8.net> 
	<4A49A789.2000105@peterodoherty.net>
	<97ED169C-69E8-4F91-967B-590E129DF350@sunrise.ch> 
	<SNT107-W6245633195598B9A48A84CC2310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <c3e4d47f0906302044q3ee4087dk6c9a9fc2c68f9b03@mail.gmail.com>

I have emailed the Tate webmaster. I did this before seeing Tobias'
email, so I hope the webmaster's reply won't be too grumpy. Hopefully
their webmaster will be able to give us a timeline for the renewed
availability of the videos. If it doesn't look like it will be back up
soon, I'll change the text of the link again.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Natasha
Roberts<natasha_roberts at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> None of the links were working for me yesterday but i thought i would wait
> and try again today (no joy), so i presume it is just a patient wait until
> they are back up again! Its great to also see that the Tate have these
> archives, makes me feel better for missing out on some of these events.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
> To: microsound at microsound.org
> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:26 +0200
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Deleuze and Guattari talk (Kim Cascone)
>
> that's true. it seems they're working on renewing the site - i just found
> this note?on?http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/live/programme.jsp
> "Important Information!
> Tate's Real Player service is being replaced by a new service, and we are
> currently in the process of re-encoding all of our existing material into
> the new video format. Some Online Events archives are not currently
> available due to changes in the way Tate delivers video online. We apologise
> for the temporary loss and are working hard to put them online as soon as
> possible.?"
> it might be old, though...
> tobias
> Am 30.06.2009 um 07:50 schrieb Peter O'Doherty:
>
> It seems the links on the Tate site aren't working. Can someone else
> please confirm it's not just me? Thanks, Peter
> ------------------------------ On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Phil
> Thomson<hellomynameisphil+mcrsnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like it can now be accessed from this page:
>
> http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/archive/deleuze.htm
>
> Perhaps someone could update the link on the wiki?
>
> --
>
> /*------------------
> Peter O'Doherty -> peterodoherty.net
> ------------------*/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound
>
> ---
> Tobias Reber : musician / sound designer
> Tobias Reber
> Freiburgstrasse 32
> 2503 Biel
> Switzerland
> mobile: ++41 (0)79 573 11 69
> email: tobiasreber at sunrise.ch
> www.myspace.com/stereorabbi
>
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of childishness and the very desire to be grown up. '

~C.S. Lewis

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Phil Thomson
~ http://philthomson.ca/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~