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class=890584120-10052011>Downgraded, poor quality promos as a barrier to being
taken advantage of ......</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=890584120-10052011>Sure i see the logic</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=890584120-10052011>but i can't do it</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=890584120-10052011>the quality of the sound is what it is all about for
me</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011>not the order of the notes</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011>or the hook line</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=890584120-10052011>or the catchiness</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=890584120-10052011>it is not about these elements - they do not
exist</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011>it is about tiny details, beautifully recorded,
fragments and spaces</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011>poor quality mp3's turn my attention off like a light
switch</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=890584120-10052011>get to the CD</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011>get to the quality, feel the full range of the
frequencies, the sweeps the sub .....</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011>I'm sure we have an audience and they don't live their
life listening to music through poor quality apple
headphones</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=890584120-10052011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=890584120-10052011>taylor, richard, mark, ian, jonathan, dan, ben, monty,
james, finn, erik, daimon, lopez, gough, simon, david, all the names
who care .... tell them </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Newman</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Numina [mailto:numina@frii.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 10 May 2011 21:36<BR><B>To:</B> Michael Mantra<BR><B>Cc:</B>
ambient@hyperreal.org; idm@hyperreal.org; Marcus Gabler -
*MillePlateaux<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: (amb) Re: Thoughtlessness and Larceny - my
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<P><FONT size=2>Chiming in a bit late to this discussion. Few things I
wanted to<BR>mention. First, it's really unfortunate that a reviewer would
upload a<BR>promo review album. That's just shameful, really. I have
seen my albums<BR>all over illegal mp3 sites myself and have had success in
getting them<BR>removed by contacting the registrar or simply sending an e-mail
to the<BR>"contact" e-mail on the site. When it comes to the Russian
sites, they<BR>usually seem to charge a few cents for the downloads, so I don't
bother<BR>with those sites because, really, who is going to send their credit
card<BR>to these guys? Some people might, but I think it's a small number
of<BR>folks - and as was previously mentioned, the Russian sites don't
even<BR>respond anyway.<BR><BR>When it comes to sending out promos, one idea I
had was to offer the<BR>promos in a format that would not make it easy to
upload. Either offer a<BR>download version with low-res mp3s, or if the
reviewer insists on a<BR>physical CD, then send a CDR version with audio drops,
or some other<BR>periodic sound / drop-out. I know, it may sound silly
because in the end,<BR>once the actual sales start, someone is going to upload a
high-res<BR>version, but it would at least inhibit the early reviewers
from<BR>proliferating a final sounding product.<BR><BR>That said, I don't plan
on doing this myself, but it's just an idea.<BR><BR>At this point, I think it
behooves us (the artists and labels) to pursue<BR>contact with the illegal sites
if we see our music - our art that we've<BR>worked so hard at. Even if
they don't take it down, it might<BR>make them annoyed or even a little
nervous.<BR><BR>OK, now off to send a bunch of e-mails to a site that has a
bunch of my<BR>loop libraries for illegal download (it just popped up a couple
days ago).<BR>At least I have SONY to threaten them with on this.
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