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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156140916-07052011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Absolutely Dene - we are being shafted - robbed - taken
advatage of - disrespected.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> dene.carter@gmail.com
[mailto:dene.carter@gmail.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dene Carter<BR><B>Sent:</B>
07 May 2011 16:34<BR><B>To:</B> Maya R. Odinezenko<BR><B>Cc:</B> David Newman;
<idm@hyperreal.org>; ambient;
<microsound-announce@microsound.nexthop.net><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: (amb)
Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I imagine that if this happened at some point after the release it
might have seemed less painful. <BR><BR>I can quite understand why a bootlegged
copy's existence spoils the launch and undermines all the effort that went into
producing the work whether it ultimately hurt sales or not (a subject much
debated elsewhere). <BR><BR>Musicians and their promoters should at least have a
choice when their work becomes available as a whole. In the world of
increasingly 'democratised' media and distribution, creatives and those who aid
them seem to have few rights left.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 7 May 2011 16:10, Maya R. Odinezenko <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:maya@elevatorium.org">maya@elevatorium.org</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV>Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.</DIV>
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<DIV>I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use
this list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.</DIV>
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<DIV>You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're
involved more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making
music for the sake of art/the love of it.</DIV>
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<DIV>If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared.
At least it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they
will buy it. There are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded
their stuff.</DIV>
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<DIV>The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing
sales. Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this
day and age allows them to do so.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Just saying.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <<A
href="mailto:dwnewman@clara.co.uk" target=_blank>dwnewman@clara.co.uk</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>To the thoughtless
idiots....</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>So here I am 3 weeks from the release of
a beautiful album by A Dancing Beggar. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN><A
href="http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm" target=_blank></A><A
href="http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm"
target=_blank>http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>The album has been sent out as per usual
to 120 reviewers on our promo list. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN>One or more of these people who purport to support independent
music and small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing
platform there is.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>So it's out - people can help themselves
for free. The £200 I spent on postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent
on making the CD won't get recouped. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN>Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a
record small record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of
these and if I don't get close to £900 back I can see <B>Audiobulb
sinking/closing for good.</B></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>So you may be thinking why am I ranting
at you? Well I don't know who has done this - they hide behind stupid names
in Fileshare etc - but whoever you are - <B>you are selfish, thoughtless and
stupid.</B></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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